Sadist Gets 25 years

StinkyMunkey · 25-01-2013 04:10PM #1

Im sorry but this is why the death penalty needs to be brought back in.

I felt physically ill after reading this report.

Im not saying execute every criminal, but for crimes such as this that have been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, they in my view forgo they right to live.

LINK IS TO SKY NEWS - STORY MAY CAUSE DISTRESS

http://news.sky.com/story/1042769/millie-martin-murder-man-jailed-for-25-years

B.A._Baracus · 25-01-2013 04:12PM

Thats bloody sick... hang that man.

irishgirl19 · 25-01-2013 04:13PM

op i think you should have warned readers about the content of that article.if i had of known i wouldn't have read it.but yes i agree with you

NIMAN · 25-01-2013 04:18PM

A sad sad case. Shows just how evil some people are.

Personally I would not be one for the death penalty, but I would lose no sleep over this animal dying now. How a grown man can beat and 15 month old baby, break her ribs and sexually assault her is beyond my realms of understanding.

It breaks my heart to read these type of stories, and I know for sure that if it was my child he had killed, I would be able to kill him with my own bare hands.

Maybe he will get his punishment in prison, although I am sure he will be housed with all the other sicko's who would probably be 'into' this sort of thing.

May she RIP.

WindSock · 25-01-2013 04:18PM

irishgirl19 wrote: »

op i think you should have warned readers about the content of that article.if i had of known i wouldn't have read it.but yes i agree with you

The thread title says Sadist. What were you expecting?

L.Jenkins · 25-01-2013 04:21PM

There's only one thing that would sort out a lad like that, and that's a bullet to the back of the head. Complete and utter scumbag if ever I saw one.

KungPao · 25-01-2013 04:21PM

irishgirl19 wrote: »

op i think you should have warned readers about the content of that article.if i had of known i wouldn't have read it.but yes i agree with you

"Sadist", "I felt physically ill after reading this report."

There was a fair bit of warning to be fair.

Anyway, yeah that's messed up.

TeddyTedson · 25-01-2013 04:22PM

can we get a quote for us touch users.

Cantona's Collars · 25-01-2013 04:23PM

A few days in gen pop might make him feel how that poor child felt.

Personally I'd kill the sick cunt & would feel zero remorse.I don't care what the "if you kill him,you're just as bad" brigade think-this man doesn't deserve to live or have the protection of the prison service.

NIMAN · 25-01-2013 04:24PM

Personally I think he should never get out, should be in now til he dies. End of.

Cantona's Collars · 25-01-2013 04:27PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

can we get a quote for us touch users.

A few posts up has the gist of the story.

Tombi! · 25-01-2013 04:27PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

can we get a quote for us touch users.

Sure thing. I spoiled it because it's NSFW and it upset a few peopled:

Shows a photo of the man holding the baby on (what I guess) is a hospital camera and the caption is:
McCarney was filmed on CCTV rushing Millie to hospital

A man has been ordered to serve at least 25 years for murdering the 15-month-old daughter of his former partner.

Barry McCarney, 33, of County Tyrone, was found guilty last month of Millie Martin's murder in Enniskillen in 2009.

Setting the minimum tariff McCarney must serve before being considered for release, Mr Justice Ben Stephens told the labourer at Belfast Crown Court he was a "deeply manipulative man" who had carried out a "sadistic sexual assault" on the child.

Millie was 15-months-old when she died in Belfast's Royal Victoria Hospital after being badly beaten at a house in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, the day before.

Then it shows a photo of the baby and the caption reads:
Millie was subjected to a 'sadistic sexual assault' by McCarney

Her mother Rachel Martin, 25, had gone briefly to a local shop in December 2009, but when she returned home her daughter and partner were not in the house.

She later said: "I was literally minutes away and when I got back ... I got a phone call telling me to get to the Erne hospital quick - Millie wasn't well - I was in hysterics."

McCarney was filmed on hospital CCTV carrying Millie into the emergency ward before she was transferred to the Royal Victoria hospital, where she was put on a life-support machine until members of her family arrived to say goodbye.

At the time, Millie's grandmother Margaret said the child "could never be replaced - it's just a nightmare, a nightmare every day".

During McCarney's trial the jury heard Millie had received a fatal blow to the back of her head as well as a number of other injuries, including serious internal injuries which could also have proved fatal.

It was claimed that Injuries to her abdomen had been caused by regular punching in the weeks before her death.

McCarney had also found guilty of grievous bodily harm with intent and sexual assault of Millie. He must serve at least six years and two years for those crimes respectively, and those terms will run concurrently with his murder tariff.

McCarney showed little emotion as he was sentenced.

Ms Martin looked on from the public gallery. She was previously acquitted of charges of allowing her daughter's death and cruelty through wilful neglect.

She criticised the sentence, saying outside the court: "I don't think it was long enough, 25 years isn't long enough."

KungPao · 25-01-2013 04:28PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Personally I think he should never get out, should be in now til he dies. End of.

Anybody have a rough figure for how much it costs to keep somebody banged up for 25 yrs + ? Must be a pretty penny.

Perhaps if somebody is 100% guilty of something terrible like this, no doubts at all, they should get the chair. Would be a lot cheaper, as well as just desserts.

TeddyTedson · 25-01-2013 04:28PM

I could never support the death penalty. What if you get it wrong, even once.
Also a life of confinement followed by natural death is a far worse punishment.
A lot of people commit horrific crimes and kill themselves before facing up to the consequences. Death is not a deterrent for some people.

Boombastic · 25-01-2013 04:28PM

Horrific crime, from the article:

McCarney had also found guilty of grievous bodily harm with intent and sexual assault of Millie. He must serve at least six years and two years for those crimes respectively, and those terms will run concurrently with his murder tariff.

I hate concurrent sentencing

My name is URL · 25-01-2013 04:30PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Personally I think he should never get out, should be in now til he dies. End of.

I can't imagine him ever seeing freedom again. There's not a chance in hell he'll last 25 years in jail. He'll more than likely top himself when he realises what he faces in prison.

GalwayGuy2 · 25-01-2013 04:30PM

I'm usually a lefty when it comes to our prision system, but yes he should be killed (put down more like).

It breaks my heart to read these type of stories, and I know for sure that if it was my child he had killed, I would be able to kill him with my own bare hands.

I hope I'd have it in me to give him a quick and painless death and not torture him or make it slow. If I enjoyed torturing someone (even a monster such as him) there'd still be a monster, but it'd be me.

shedweller · 25-01-2013 04:31PM

We need to bring in the death for this kind of thing. They serve no useful purpose to humanity and their gene pool needs to be deleted. At the very least, that ****er needs to be sterilised. With a rusty blade perhaps...
I'm sorry but i have kids of my own and if the likes of him did that to them i would enjoy seeing his life ebb away from his eyes.

Crimson King · 25-01-2013 04:32PM

Read about this case and seen those photos a few months back and I am still as shocked now as I was then. The false panic on his face somehow makes it worse for me, the fact he knows he may be caught red handed and this is the only 'sorrow' he feels just makes me so angry.

People like him are sick, and no amount of 'debt paid to society' will be enough. Being able to share the same breath as we all do is actually a luxury he should be deprived of IMO.

cantdecide · 25-01-2013 04:35PM

How could you live with yourself having those kinds of thoughts running through your head. I'd be looking for a cliff to jump off if I were that guy or anyone like him.

Tombi! · 25-01-2013 04:36PM

I agree with Crimson King, I reckon who only brought in the child out of panic/fear of being caught.
While I don't like the idea of just killing someone for a crime and I'd rather find out how to make sure other people don't do it, this is one of those times where I don't mind if he fell a lot on the way to the cells along with letting all the others in there what he's done

im invisible · 25-01-2013 04:36PM

NIMAN wrote: »

May she RIP.

:rolleyes:

TeddyTedson · 25-01-2013 04:37PM

shedweller wrote: »

We need to bring in the death for this kind of thing. They serve no useful purpose to humanity and their gene pool needs to be deleted. At the very least, that ****er needs to be sterilised. With a rusty blade perhaps...
I'm sorry but i have kids of my own and if the likes of him did that to them i would enjoy seeing his life ebb away from his eyes.

I really don't believe genetics come into it.
A horrendous crime obviously, but id be ashamed of my country to see the death penalty return. Absolutely nobody should have the right to legally take someone's life. Particularly the state.

25-01-2013 04:39PM

KungPao wrote: »

Anybody have a rough figure for how much it costs to keep somebody banged up for 25 yrs + ? Must be a pretty penny.

Perhaps if somebody is 100% guilty of something terrible like this, no doubts at all, they should get the chair. Would be a lot cheaper, as well as just desserts.

Yeah great plan, kill people to save money. Sure we can solve any world hunger problems that way.

Anyway it's been shown in the states with the costs of appeals and all, it's more expensive to have the death penalty.

StinkyMunkey · 25-01-2013 04:40PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I really don't believe genetics come into it.
A horrendous crime obviously, but id be ashamed of my country to see the death penalty return. Absolutely nobody should have the right to legally take someone's life. Particularly the state.

To me the death penalty is not a deterrent, its the punishment you will recieve for this type of crime. People will always murder, but for this type of crime he does not deserve to live another day. In my eyes he ceased being human when convicted of this crime.

KungPao · 25-01-2013 04:41PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I really don't believe genetics come into it.
A horrendous crime obviously, but id be ashamed of my country to see the death penalty return. Absolutely nobody should have the right to legally take someone's life. Particularly the state.

Whilst I do agree in principle, why should the state (that is the people of a country) not be able to take his life BUT are obliged to pay bed and board (and protection) for people like this?

unimpressed · 25-01-2013 04:42PM

hanging is to good for this guy, help him to get back to a mental state where he realises the gravity of what he has done then let him surrer with guilt for a bit then hang him.

dark crystal · 25-01-2013 04:44PM

I wept after seeing this report earlier today - that poor little girl.

One thing struck me, though. The report stated she had sustained 21 cracked ribs over four weeks, pelvic bruising and had been seriously sexually assaulted. How on earth did the mother miss all of that?

StinkyMunkey · 25-01-2013 04:44PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Yeah great plan, kill people to save money. Sure we can solve any world hunger problems that way.

Anyway it's been shown in the states with the costs of appeals and all, it's more expensive to have the death penalty.

To me its not about the cost, id pay more in taxes to know someone like this was executed.

http://www.iprt.ie/

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

Mr Benevolent · 25-01-2013 04:46PM

He'll have a very rough time for the next 20 years in prison. Very nasty indeed.

Tombi! · 25-01-2013 04:47PM

dark crystal wrote: »

I wept after seeing this report earlier today - that poor little girl.

One thing struck me, though. The report stated she had sustained 21 cracked ribs over four weeks, pelvic bruising and had been seriously sexually assaulted. How on earth did the mother miss all of that?

Maybe she was scared to come forward. I know she was acquitted of allowing her daughter's death and cruelty through wilful neglect.

Sadist Gets 25 years

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