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Olympus Has Fallen

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Wow, does the CGI in that trailer look ropey or what? And when Butler mentioned the 'I'm the best hope you got' line, I lol'ed.

    Let's see if Emmerich can do better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Jesus, if this were the 90's it wouldn't be out of place at all. So much prime cheese in there.

    It's Die Hard in the White House.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Jesus, if this were the 90's it wouldn't be out of place at all. So much prime cheese in there.

    It's Die Hard in the White House.

    With a little splash of "In The Line Of Fire" thrown in...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Jesus, if this were the 90's it wouldn't be out of place at all. So much prime cheese in there.

    It's Die Hard in the White House.

    Exactly what I was thinking.
    Wouldn't be surprised if it was based on a script that was rejected for Die Hard 5 (due to being too far-fetched)

    Still looks great in a 'cheesy, blow stuff up and save the day' kinda way.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't know about anyone else, but I love when movies like this come along. Can't beat a cheesy brain-dead, watch shit blow up movie!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'd say this would be one of those movies that would be a great laugh with some beer and buddies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    oh hell yeah !

    :D

    its the west wing !..........

    .....if micheal bay was doing it.

    ive a feeling im gonna love this. grade A cheese here buy the looks of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    fitz wrote: »
    With a little splash of "In The Line Of Fire" thrown in...

    And Under Siege :p looks to be a good popcorn flick and at least it is not another rom com from Gerard Butler


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Can't beat a cheesy brain-dead, watch shit blow up movie!

    You really can.

    Looks like absolute cack, and Gerard Butler holds the dubious honour of never having starred in a good or even decent film (How to Train Your Dragon doesn't count). The man is pure cinematic poison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Otacon wrote: »
    Wow, does the CGI in that trailer look ropey or what? And when Butler mentioned the 'I'm the best hope you got' line, I lol'ed.

    Let's see if Emmerich can do better.

    +1 on that. I would guess the Emmerich and C-tates version will be more entertaining.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    First things first: PG-13 or R?

    I love the initial optimism that greets films like. It's just a shame that it's almost guaranteed to end in disappointment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    You really can.

    Looks like absolute cack, and Gerard Butler holds the dubious honour of never having starred in a good or even decent film (How to Train Your Dragon doesn't count). The man is pure cinematic poison.

    Wouldnt say that; I thought 300 and law abiding citizen were decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,280 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    And Gamer!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Wouldnt say that; I thought 300 and law abiding citizen were decent.


    law abiding citizen was fantastic.

    i was actually rooting for him to win in the end. rare that happens to me for the "baddie".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    An AC-130 getting that close to the White House? shenanigans, would have been blown out of the sky way before. Looks dumb as hell, Aaron Eckhart I like though. The cgi looks woeful, could they really not drop a real car off a bridge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    law abiding citizen was fantastic.

    i was actually rooting for him to win in the end. rare that happens to me for the "baddie".

    Said it before, it may have actually worked better as a tv series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Wouldnt say that; I thought 300 and law abiding citizen were decent.

    And Coriolanus.
    I thought Law Abiding Citizen was great, Gamer not so much, however this films looks absolutley awful


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    300 is awful.
    Gamer is offensively awful.
    Law Abiding Citizen is beyond awful, and one whose generally favourable reputation astounds me, as its a piece of noxious stupidity that is pretty much devoid of redeeming features.

    Corionalus is perhaps an exception (all rules need exceptions), that I concede, although I have yet to see it.

    Of course it is a given all of these comments are completely IMO, but Gerard Butler has a quality control standard comparable to Steven Seagal - reliably starring in the most idiotic comedies and dumbass action films Hollywood has to offer. At the very least, he just happens to star in the types of film that I tend to hate for whatever reason. His name just sets off alarm bells. And I say this as someone who will give pretty much any actor a chance outside their comfort zone, but Butler's astoundingly appalling track record makes him almost peerless among current A-listers. Based on the evidence of this trailer, I remain cynical that this has the ability to break his fantastic losing streak. Another bizarre entry on the once promising Antoine Fuqua's wildly uneven filmography.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I would have thought by now most of us here were inoculated against the exaggerated, false charms of trailers. Are we so in awe of a celluloid explosion that we'll give a pass, no matter how clueless the context?

    As already mentioned, this looks like a half-assed crossover of Die Hard with In the Line of Fire, with apparently little of their wit / charm. Hell, it looks like a parody of an action-film. Yeah, sure; sometimes you just want a bit of fun & a rollercoaster ride, but not at any cost. Not for the sake of a modern-day Segal movie. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,280 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    300 is awful.
    Gamer is offensively awful.
    Law Abiding Citizen is beyond awful, and one whose generally favourable reputation astounds me, as its a piece of noxious stupidity that is pretty much devoid of redeeming features.

    ...

    Of course it is a given all of these comments are completely IMO,

    You're right, it is all IMO. 300 was fantastic IMO, but i'm a sucker for gore. Gamer was right up my street, and a vision i want for the future of gaming (minus the using actual people, but the room being the console!). And Law Abiding Citizen has one of the best death scenes in a long time ("I can pretty much do whatever i want!" *pew*).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    Bit of this, bit of that....

    Gerard Butler still building his portfolio aimed at the plum 'James Bond' role.

    Rem: You heard it here first!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    +1 on that. I would guess the Emmerich and C-tates version will be more entertaining.

    Is Jason Clarke playing the villain in White House Down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    FlashD wrote: »
    Bit of this, bit of that....

    Gerard Butler still building his portfolio aimed at the plum 'James Bond' role.

    Rem: You heard it here first!

    He was already in a Bond Movie though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Despite the trailer, this review makes me hopeful. I generally agree with The Kidd.

    Link [Mild Spoilers]
    OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN really surprised the hell out of me. I wasn’t expecting much, focusing more on the other White House under attack movie coming later this year, but with a worthy bad guy, an engaging hero and Eckhart providing a likable President you actually want to see rescued, OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN does plenty right to be saluted as an excellent action flick.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Otacon wrote: »
    Despite the trailer, this review makes me hopeful. I generally agree with The Kidd.

    Link [Mild Spoilers]

    Most of the reviews are less than favorable with the film being called one of the dumbest blockbusters in years. Melissa Leo is supposed to be excellent and Butler is good fun but most of the cast are left with little to do but look terrified. Really think that it's time that Butler got a new agent. He turned in a superb performance in Machine Gun Preacher and was bloody good in Coriolanus, The Jury, Beowulf & Grendel, Nim's Island and RocknRolla and I've enjoyed many of his action films but he really needs to concentrate on some more serious fare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    You really can.

    Looks like absolute cack, and Gerard Butler holds the dubious honour of never having starred in a good or even decent film (How to Train Your Dragon doesn't count). The man is pure cinematic poison.

    Rock-N-Rolla was decent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Otacon wrote: »
    Despite the trailer, this review makes me hopeful. I generally agree with The Kidd.

    Link [Mild Spoilers]

    Most of the reviews are less than favorable with the film being called one of the dumbest blockbusters in years. Melissa Leo is supposed to be excellent and Butler is good fun but most of the cast are left with little to do but look terrified. Really think that it's time that Butler got a new agent. He turned in a superb performance in Machine Gun Preacher and was bloody good in Coriolanus, The Jury, Beowulf & Grendel, Nim's Island and RocknRolla and I've enjoyed many of his action films but he really needs to concentrate on some more serious fare.

    And I'm back down again. :(

    Link to AICN
    OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN is dumb...

    Unfortunately, OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN isn't the kind of dumb that fans can enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy



    Rock-N-Rolla was decent

    Also thought he was convincing in Machine Gun Preacher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    FlashD wrote: »
    Bit of this, bit of that....

    Gerard Butler still building his portfolio aimed at the plum 'James Bond' role.

    Rem: You heard it here first!

    Is he not too old to play Bond?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    Good god that looks bad. What passes as acceptable CGI in Hollywood these days is getting silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    law abiding citizen was fantastic.

    i was actually rooting for him to win in the end. rare that happens to me for the "baddie".

    Agreed, I didnt see him as that much of a baddie at all - the system was the real baddie :) (though
    going after pretty much anyone linked to the case might be seen as taking things to extremes :)
    )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    just back from this and after seeing the thoroughly disappointing Evil Dead last night i must say this was a breath of fresh "blow that **** up real good" air, it has a coherent storyline and i do believe an adult actually wrote the script for this one,

    its as you expect a lot of gun fights some nice hand to hand here and there, the president is being held by a terrorist while the hero carves his way through the white house, it really holds your attention for the 2 hour run time,

    it delivers what it promises, unlike the other film i mentioned,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is he not too old to play Bond?

    He's a year younger than Daniel Craig. Looks a good 7 years younger than him though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Went to see it (not by choice).

    Absolutely awful movie! Worst I've seen in years.

    Violence was just totally over the top and the storyline had more holes than swiss cheese and appears to have been written by someone in Transition Year who has a gun and violence fetish.

    Weak characters, especially the president and absolutely no development of the chief terrorist or the completely forgettable main character.

    I know it's basically shoot 'em up nonsense, but the basic premiss of the story line isn't remotely plausible.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The first of two films this year to use the White House as a back drop for it's action, Olympus Has Fallen is the old one man vs. an army nonsense that when handled correctly can be one hell of a lot of fun. From Antonie Fuqua, OHF follows former Head of presidential security Mike Banning who gets a chance to redeem himself when terrorists openly attack the white house and take the President and his senior staff hostage. It's the kind of trashy, no nonsense action film that 80s cinema specialised in and could very easily be retitled Die Hard in the West Wing.

    Opening with a scene that establishes our hero's wounded psyche the film quickly jumps forward 18 months to just another day behind the desk for Banning. Banning is interrupted from the mundanities of desk work by the sound of heavy gun fire and peering out his window sees a large military plane laying waste to down town Washington. Being the hero he runs off to save the day. the initial attack on the city and the storming of the White House is one of the most exhilarating and well handled action scenes in years. It's a perfectly executed set piece where the camera stays focused on the action and tension is created, not through jump cuts and shakey cam but rather a keen eye and an emphasis on keeping it all in focus. There's a sense of symmetry to the action and every single bullet counts.

    From here the action is quite low key with it striking a perfect balance between fast and furious fisty cuffs and scenes of Banning sneaking around the in ruins White House. In order to create a little extra tension we witness the efforts of acting President Trumbull and his cabinet to save the day. These scenes may be one note but the performances manage to lift the film far beyond it's meager origins. With a cast that includes Morgan Freeman, Meliss Leo, Robert Foster and Aaron Eckhart there's no shortage of star quality on display.

    The real star here is Butler who brings a macho intensity he's been lacking since 300. He's a no nonsense, hard assm as quick with a threat as he his with the knife that he repeatably buries in the head of unwilling terrorists. The violence here is shocking explicit for a 15PG film, many of the hand to hand scenes are on par with last years The Raid and Banning takes great pleasure in repeatedly shooting men and women in the head in graphic detail.

    The script, while adequate in establishing an interesting premise with a damaged hero isn't quite as smart as it thinks or needs to be. The attempts at political subtext are poorly implemented and add nothing of note. Great attempts are made to portray Banning as a damaged man, unable to put the past behind him but once the action kicks into gear this is quickly forgotten about. It's quite frustrating as so much time and effort is spent establishing what could have been a rather interesting dynamic to his character. It's clear that Fuqua had ambitions to make a film that was a little more dynamic than we get here and don't be surprised to see a longer director's cut released.

    Olympus Has Fallen is not a film that will be celebrated in years to come an could easily have been far more than that sum of it's parts. But taken for what it is, Olympus Has Fallen is a far better than average action film that's expertly shot and not afraid to paint the screen red.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Solair wrote: »
    Went to see it (not by choice).

    Absolutely awful movie! Worst I've seen in years.
    arent you the lucky one, i could list about 50 films worse than this that ive seen in the last 3 years, i love how people throw that phrase around when they are literally walking out of the cinema, this film alone is possibly 5 if not 10 times better than the new die hard, in fact die hard probably wished they used this script after that shambles of a film,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    don ramo wrote: »
    arent you the lucky one, i could list about 50 films worse than this that ive seen in the last 3 years, i love how people throw that phrase around when they are literally walking out of the cinema, this film alone is possibly 5 if not 10 times better than the new die hard, in fact die hard probably wished they used this script after that shambles of a film,

    I nearly did walk out of the cinema half way through! I would have if I wasn't halfway down a row!

    The new Die Hard sounds like a total disaster then!

    As I was saying though, I didn't pick this movie and wouldn't have gone near it if I'd known what I was about to sit through. It was just an hour and a half of meaningless violence set to a badly written plot.

    Not my cup of tea at all.

    What really disturbed me was that there were parents there with kids who looked about 12 who seemed to think this was a lovely evenings family entertainment !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    Solair wrote: »
    appears to have been written by someone in Transition Year who has a gun and violence fetish.

    Laughed heartily at this! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Solair wrote: »

    Violence was just totally over the top and the storyline had more holes than swiss cheese and appears to have been written by someone in Transition Year who has a gun and violence fetish.

    The storyline is terrible, I said it in one of the other threads but it is like someone played one of the Modern Warfare games and decided to adapt some of it to a movie. But how many of these type of movies have realistic stories?

    It's watchable, brainless fun, nothing more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,983 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    can we spoiler this thread now that its out


    this was ok, i like these what if scenario films, even if its not accurate, so a good action flick, very violent, lots of head shots and stupidity
    i thought the movie would play out that butler/benning would actually sacrifice the president, he let the wife go to save the president, i thought he'd let the president go to save the country, because there is no way they'd leave south korea, and compromise their nukes just to save the president, that was the most confusing bit, that they were so intent in saving one guy's life over bigger issues, or was that a point that they were trying to make?

    ps
    shift 3
    !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,277 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    can we spoiler this thread now that its out


    this was ok, i like these what if scenario films, even if its not accurate, so a good action flick, very violent, lots of head shots and stupidity
    i thought the movie would play out that butler/benning would actually sacrifice the president, he let the wife go to save the president, i thought he'd let the president go to save the country, because there is no way they'd leave south korea, and compromise their nukes just to save the president, that was the most confusing bit, that they were so intent in saving one guy's life over bigger issues, or was that a point that they were trying to make?

    ps
    shift 3
    !

    That really annoyed me too -
    I just can't see America putting millions of lives at risk, the start of possibly a new world war and the destruction of most of America - just to save the president. They would go to great lengths to save their president, but accepting the demands that were placed on them as they did would make America an easy target for all terrorists.

    And yeah, the hashtag joke was the low point of the movie - really hated that bit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    don ramo wrote: »
    just back from this and after seeing the thoroughly disappointing Evil Dead last night i must say this was a breath of fresh "blow that **** up real good" air, it has a coherent storyline and i do believe an adult actually wrote the script for this one,

    its as you expect a lot of gun fights some nice hand to hand here and there, the president is being held by a terrorist while the hero carves his way through the white house, it really holds your attention for the 2 hour run time,

    it delivers what it promises, unlike the other film i mentioned,

    While I wouldn't say it's a breath of fresh air, pound for pound, I found it a more enjoyable experience than Evil Dead.

    Ludicrous plot, hilarious (not hilarious) script, but does exactly what says on the tin....yada, yada


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Banjaxed82 wrote: »
    While I wouldn't say it's a breath of fresh air, pound for pound, I found it a more enjoyable experience than Evil Dead.

    Ludicrous plot, hilarious (not hilarious) script, but does exactly what says on the tin....yada, yada
    i expected the evil dead to be scary or funny, it was neither, i expected this to be a cheesy 90s plot with over the top action, and it delivered its that simple,


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    went to see this yesterday.

    i thought it was great. someone here said it was basically die hard in the white house and its exactly that !

    in fact its a better die hard than the last official one.

    is it cheesy as feck ?

    course it is ! but its an enormous amount of fun, i almost choked on the popcorn it was going down so fast.

    theres good and theres bad, its got some of the ropiest CGI that ive ever seen in a big budget film. in fact stuff on telly looks better than the aerial sequences in this. its also fairly slow to take off.

    but the battle to take the white house is rousing and VERY well done and once your at that point its full tilt to the end with some fair brutal fight scenes. buttlers chararcter (mike) is a nice balance of decent guy and warrior who some how manages to do some fairly brutal stuff but still impart that its not personal.

    ok theyre unapologetically "yay america" but anyone thats followed the cast interviews knew that going in and for a "patriotic" film the baddies aint portrayed in a particualry bad light. in fact the plan nearly works and the "good guys" get one hell of a kicking which ya dont really get to see that often. it turned out to be alot more restrained in that regard than i expected it to be.

    in many ways its like micheal bays wet dream and the film nicks transformers music track (or something VERY like it) to score the whole film and it comes off really well.

    this film aint gonna win any oscars and its preposterous as hell as a concept, but that doesnt matter as its a shedload of fun. even little things like following mike around the white house as he's taking out bad guys passing president after presidents pictures and busts.

    its just something ya dont see in action films , and it lends a role to the white house itself as a character.

    all in all this is a great little actioner, well acted by all involved (even the kid isnt annoying ! ) and any ropienes of the CGI can be forgiven for the straight action scenes that are nicely coreagraphed.

    8 out of 10 from me.

    like a good ol fashioned 80s van damme flick, only with someone that can act.

    :D

    P.S

    Is it just me or is gerard buttler starting to look like jeremy renners da/ big brother ? theres something uncanny going on there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,983 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    olympus has not fallen, just ap hacked, seems somebody was inspired by the film


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 dogski


    I think this looks pretty good, can't wait for it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Have to say I enjoyed this. Dumber than a bag of hammers, leave the brain firmly switched off nonsense to enjoy with a few beers.
    There's no way the Speaker of the House would do anything in this situation but send in the special forces and throw the dice with the presidents life. The Cerberus system was a nonsense too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Preposterous doesn't even begin to describe this, still bizarrely entertaining though, in an utterly mindless way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭arch_stanton


    I thought this was great fun. Not a brain in its head but for pure entertainment on a Friday night it did the job nicely.

    It's probably best not to try to make sense but with the codes
    the president orders the first two of his staff to give up their codes as they are getting the crap kicked out of them. What's he going to do then when they want the last code and they beat everyone again? Of course in the end they cracked the last with their supercomputer laptop. Besides, what was everyone with the code doing in the same room? Why didn't the VP have one? [ /spoiler]


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    This was far too cringeworthy to enjoy, even as big dumb fun.
    All the Americana bullsh!t was making me sick and then when
    the secretary of defence starts reciting the pledge of allegiance as she is being dragged off to be executed
    I wanted to walk out


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