January 2013: Two people in Dublin die of cold

Dostoevsky · 15-01-2013 07:18PM #1

Remember the two people who died in a house off Manor Street yesterday? It was initially said it was possibly carbon monoxide poisoning.

According to the Garda this afternoon, they died of hypothermia: they died of the cold. They may had been dead for up to a day and a half. In January 2013.

Hypothermia cause of Dublin house deaths

This reminds me of that 30-year-old mother, Rachel Peavoy, who froze to death in Ballymun in January 2011

Woman froze to death in Ballymun

It is beyond words how people can die of the cold in our country today. Beyond words.

starlings · 15-01-2013 07:22PM

Sadly, not beyond these words in the link you provided:

"It was also established that the two had not eaten much for the few days before they died, but had consumed large quantities of alcohol."

Micky Dolenz · 15-01-2013 07:22PM

Did you read the article?

They had electric heaters that weren't turned on in days and had very little food in their system but large quantities of alcohol. They also had other health complications. RIP.

I don't think it's a problem with the wider Irish society as an isolated and avoidable tragedy.

token101 · 15-01-2013 07:23PM

Beyond words? Why? It's fairly easy to see what happened really:

It was also established that the two had not eaten much for the few days before they died, but had consumed large quantities of alcohol.

Death and Taxes · 15-01-2013 07:27PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Remember the two people who died in a house off Manor Street yesterday? It was initially said it was possibly carbon monoxide poisoning.

According to the Garda this afternoon, they died of hypothermia: they died of the cold. They may had been dead for up to a day and a half. In January 2013.

Hypothermia cause of Dublin house deaths

This reminds me of that 30-year-old mother, Rachel Peavoy, who froze to death in Ballymun in January 2011

Woman froze to death in Ballymun

It is beyond words how people can die of the cold in our country today. Beyond words.

Absolutley disgusting that the OP links the death of Rachel Peavoy with these two death, Rachel Peavoy didn't drink herself into a coma!
:mad:
It's beyond words how someone can link the two. Beyond words!

HondaSami · 15-01-2013 07:29PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

It is beyond words how people can die of the cold in our country today. Beyond words.

They did not die from the cold, it was alcohol related with other health issues.

My name is URL · 15-01-2013 07:33PM

Has anyone mentioned the alcohol yet?

Dostoevsky · 15-01-2013 07:34PM

token101 wrote: »

Beyond words? Why? It's fairly easy to see what happened really:

I'm sure plenty of people have done that, and did not died. What made this different?

Dostoevsky · 15-01-2013 07:35PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Has anyone mentioned the alcohol yet?

I don't think so. Perhaps somebody could?

mikom · 15-01-2013 07:35PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Has anyone mentioned the alcohol yet?

I blame cannabis.....

Boombastic · 15-01-2013 07:36PM

mikom wrote: »

I blame cannabis.....

They should ban that, it's dangerous

Dostoevsky · 15-01-2013 07:36PM

HondaSami wrote: »

They did not die from the cold, it was alcohol related with other health issues.

Ahem:

"A man and a woman found dead in a flat in Drumalee Court in Dublin yesterday afternoon died from the cold.
Post-mortems carried out on the bodies of John Glennon, 67, and Debbie McEvoy, 63, found the cause of their deaths to be hypothermia along with ongoing health problems."

Causes:

1) Hypothermia

2) Other issues

DrumSteve · 15-01-2013 07:37PM

If you drink yourself into a coma and forget to turn on the heating, you have only yourself to blame.

Has anyone got a link to conclusive proof this was what happened?

token101 · 15-01-2013 07:38PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

I'm sure plenty of people have done that, and did not died. What made this different?

They had health issues? I have no idea, what's your point? Is it going to involves some thinly veiled rant about how government cutbacks are at fault? Because if it is it's a bit of a stretch and just exploiting a tragedy really.

Dostoevsky · 15-01-2013 07:39PM

token101 wrote: »

Beyond words? Why? It's fairly easy to see what happened really:

I think the word 'also' in your quote indicates they were subsidiary reasons for the death. You seem to have missed the principal, stated reason in the same report: hypothermia.

HondaSami · 15-01-2013 07:41PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Ahem:

"A man and a woman found dead in a flat in Drumalee Court in Dublin yesterday afternoon died from the cold.
Post-mortems carried out on the bodies of John Glennon, 67, and Debbie McEvoy, 63, found the cause of their deaths to be hypothermia along with ongoing health problems."

Causes:

1) Hypothermia

2) Other issues

Yes but they had money for drink, had heaters and electricity, no need for them to die from the cold. Who's fault was it? ours? theirs?

Dostoevsky · 15-01-2013 07:41PM

token101 wrote: »

They had health issues? I have no idea, what's your point? Is it going to involves some thinly veiled rant about how government cutbacks are at fault? Because if it is it's a bit of a stretch and just exploiting a tragedy really.

Forgetting already what you've quoted? Not good. Here it is:

"It was also established that the two had not eaten much for the few days before they died, but had consumed large quantities of alcohol."

My response: I'm sure plenty of people have done that, and did not die. What made this different?

frag420 · 15-01-2013 07:41PM

Weird as I always feel warm and fuzzy when I'm drunk!!

token101 · 15-01-2013 07:43PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Forgetting already what you've quoted? Not good. Here it is:

"It was also established that the two had not eaten much for the few days before they died, but had consumed large quantities of alcohol."

My response: I'm sure plenty of people have done that, and did not die. What made this different?

You tell me then!

juan.kerr · 15-01-2013 07:43PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

My response: I'm sure plenty of people have done that, and did not die. What made this different?

Others put the heaters on first or the heaters were on timers?

Teyla Emmagan · 15-01-2013 07:43PM

It's funny they both died the same way though. No funny haha, the other funny. That's quite a combination of stuff to kill two people in the same place at the same time. No mention of drugs of any sort?

mikom · 15-01-2013 07:47PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

No mention of drugs of any sort?

*smashes head off desk*

My name is URL · 15-01-2013 07:49PM

HondaSami wrote: »

Yes but they had money for drink, had heaters and electricity, no need for them to die from the cold. Who's fault was it? ours? theirs?

What are you on about? You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions for someone that hasn't a clue.

Death and Taxes · 15-01-2013 07:52PM

My name is URL wrote: »

What are you on about? You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions for someone that hasn't a clue.

Actually she has as much info as the Op, but for his own reasons he sought to misrepresent it and link to a tragic case that had nothing in common with it.

Dostoevsky · 15-01-2013 07:57PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Actually she has as much info as the Op, but for his own reasons he sought to misrepresent it and link to a tragic case that had nothing in common with it.

The principal cause of death in this case is hypothermia, according to that report. The principal cause of the Ballymun death was hypothermia. Anyway.... :rolleyes:

PapaQuebec · 15-01-2013 07:59PM

I didn't know Mr Glennon, but I was marginally acquainted with Ms McEvoy from when she was the partner of a long-time friend of mine over 20 years ago.

I live not far from the flat in which they died and Debbie was a frequent sight in many of the local bars. She had a long-time "problem" with alcohol - indeed it cost her former partner his employment on more than one occasion when he'd take time off to look after her following week-long binges!

I last saw her about two months ago being asked to leave a local bar owing to her drunkenness.

Sad life.
Sad death.

My name is URL · 15-01-2013 08:10PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Actually she has as much info as the Op, but for his own reasons he sought to misrepresent it and link to a tragic case that had nothing in common with it.

Jumping to conclusions and making assumptions of your own isn't a great way to deal with other people doing the same thing. Especially if you're going to chastise them about making assumptions at the same time!

Two people are dead.. why anybody feels the need to pin the blame on any one thing is beyond me. If it turned out that they deliberately ended their own lives I'd imagine the tone of the thread would be quite different.

Death and Taxes · 15-01-2013 09:01PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

The principal cause of death in this case is hypothermia, according to that report. The principal cause of the Ballymun death was hypothermia. Anyway.... :rolleyes:

I presume the medical cause of death!
You make no account of context and lump these two deaths in waith a completley different case, obvious you have some agenda, just can't figure what it is.

15-01-2013 09:18PM

frag420 wrote: »

Weird as I always feel warm and fuzzy when I'm drunk!!

Alcohol makes the blood flow to the skin more so you don't feel the cold, but in doing so, it speeds up heat loss.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-01-2013 09:26PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Ahem:

"A man and a woman found dead in a flat in Drumalee Court in Dublin yesterday afternoon died from the cold.
Post-mortems carried out on the bodies of John Glennon, 67, and Debbie McEvoy, 63, found the cause of their deaths to be hypothermia along with ongoing health problems."

Causes:

1) Hypothermia

2) Other issues

If I run around in my nip in -10C, I'm going to catch hypothermia and die. Doesn't mean it's society's fault.

I wouldn't mind, but it hasn't really been all that cold lately.

Yakult · 15-01-2013 09:30PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

No mention of drugs of any sort?

what do you think alcohol is? lol

Yes, its a drug.

January 2013: Two people in Dublin die of cold

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