Denver Broncos Thread

Good luck Peyton and the Broncos from this Colts fan!

Holy crap spiralism, that's even a new (negative) low for you !! :eek:

Here's something to cheer you up :pac::
Peyton is like 9-0 against the Ravens
Every time Peyton has played the Ravens in the divisional round he goes to the Super Bowl


Seriously tho, it's gonna be a tough game but we are perfectly prepared, they played yesterday (their D was on the pitch for a good part of yesterday's game) and now play in Mile High next Saturday. Our team has had 2 weeks of preparation, they will be itching to get out on the pitch & tear into the Ravens. I reckon (hoping) it'll be a war of attrition. Their D isn't exactly young. Their most influential defensive player is retiring when they loose.

Looking at the game yesterday, I wasn't overly impressed with the Ravens, the Colts put some great drives together but just came up short getting TD's, not surprising really when the Ravens are like no. 1 in red zone defense, just one of the things that does worry me for next week tho.
On offense the thing that separated them from the Colts was their big-plays, those catches by Boldin were superb, and Flacco can hurt you with long throws, if let !

I'll finish up by saying, if the Ravens do win, I'll support them all the way to the SB ! I'd be great to see Lewis lift that trophy again, "this one's for Ray".

The only team capable of stopping the broncos makin a SB appearance is the Pats, period.

Baltimore will be swept aside, there day out was Sunday, Ray got the send off he deserves and as much as he deserves another ring, Mile High will be his last game in the NFL.

Would sleep easier if the Texans somehow managed to take care of the Pats but I can't see it happening. 20th of Jan is the big one, Saturday will be a warmup, that's all.

dub_skav wrote: »

No need for negativity, Broncos should have too much on offence and Flacco won't survive Miller, Dumervil and Wolfe

.......and Woodyard

This year Woodyard has far exceeded expectations and has had a phenominal season, not only in stats but also in terms of lifting the team's morale, being one of the leaders, making big plays at important times.

Interesting to compare last years Offensive o/p with this year's:

Season 2012 2011
TOTAL FIRST DOWNS 380 286
FIRST DOWNS (RUSHING-PASSING-BY-PENALTY) 112-232-36 129-130-27
THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS 96/213 66/214
FOURTH DOWN CONVERSIONS 3/5 3/13
TOTAL OFFENSIVE YARDS 6,366 5,066
OFFENSE (PLAYS-AVERAGE YARDS) 1,090-5.8 1,017-5
TOTAL RUSHING YARDS 1,832 2,632
RUSHING (PLAYS-AVERAGE YARDS) 481-3.8 546-4.8
TOTAL PASSING YARDS 4,534 2,434
PASSING (COMP-ATT-INT-AVG) 402-588-11-7.9 217-429-13-6.3
Percentage % 68.4 50.6
SACKS 52 41
FIELD GOALS 26/32 19/25
TOUCHDOWNS 57 36
TOUCHDOWNS (RUSHING-PASSING-RETURNS-DEFENSIVE) 12-37-2-6 11-20-2-3
TIME OF POSSESSION 31:16:00 29:42:00
TURNOVER RATIO -1 -12



..........but will it all be for zero if we loose to the Ravens
/edit: the Spiralism virus has infected your post :pac:

Jesus I'm dyin for Saturday, build up for the game with the Leinster match, hopefully fall out of the woolshed a happy buckled broncos fan.

GO BRONCOS!

Fantastic article on Manning and his offence in Denver this season.

Great read.

bruschi wrote: »

I'm badly nitpicking herre, but does that article not prove to you that Mannings playbook is not at all complex (which, and please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remember you saying it, goes against what was said a couple of weeks back) and is actually quite simple, and it is basically the effectiveness and execution that is the key, and not a complicated playbook or new schemes that he had to try learn.

That's been said by analysts all season. Now I'm not sure if its true or not. If true it is obviously a huge reason for the broncos early losses. It would take quite a while to build that level of simpatico needed for a simple offense to be effective.

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

That's been said by analysts all season. Now I'm not sure if its true or not. If true it is obviously a huge reason for the broncos early losses. It would take quite a while to build that level of simpatico needed for a simple offense to be effective.

It's true. They're running the Colts old offense almost exactly. While it does require great QB-WR chemistry, it really helps when your QB is already an expert in the system.

Just want to pop in and say hard luck tonight lads. That was easily the best game I've ever watched and it really could have gone either way in the end. All the best for the offseason and draft and I look forward to the regular season meeting at Mile High next season.

Hard luck Broncos fans. heartbreaking to lose a game in double overtime but that was a hell of a game. Long time til the new season but there's a lot of positives to take from the season and you'll bounce back

spiralism wrote: »

Appreciated man.... I don't think many could agree though, we bottled every serious test we got. This team is dead to me, it's never going to do it and deep down i know it...and it's a horrible feeling. Manning has a lot more in common with Brett Favre than one would think and it's ultimately the same old sorry ass Broncos team i know so well.

I don't know. I think that there's a lot of young guys in the team that grew up a lot this year. Losing Moreno was a huge loss for Denver (who would have thought that earlier in the season!) and I think with him on the field the outcome could have been different.

In relation to Manning it was a bad decision and once he threw across his body an INT was always possible but having been under pressure from the Ravens D throughout the game mistakes will happen.

I always hate to say Manning cant play as well in the post season as he does in the regular but if I was a Broncos fan I'd obviously be happier with him under centre than just about anyone else in the league and he was the single biggest reason in the turnaround that Denver had this year. Last season they won in spite of themselves and their QB play in many ways (Tebow playing dreadful for 50 minutes before playing great for 10 minutes etc.) whereas this year they played at a high level for much of the year.

Emotion shouldn't come into it because when a play has to be made defenders have to have a clear head but throughout the last two weeks we've seen how much the entire Baltimore team want to win for #52 so Im less willing to downplay the emotional element in the Ravens performance than I would ordinarily.

spiralism wrote: »

I think this season could be the breaking of them though. Their two playoff appearances have ended in a heartbreak this year and a humiliation last year. No good can come of that.

This season can be chalked down as nothing other than a bitter failure. At least last season was an incredible rollercoaster and we won a playoff game. This was a dreary stroll over league doormats for weeks on end and utter abject heartbreak in the end.

I don't know what to make of Manning after that now. I know he's an all time great but his postseason legacy lives on and i don't know if he's the man to take us to the promised land.

Who else would you get to replace Manning though? That's the main point I'd make. Even with the loss today Manning played well for the most part (3TDs against a Ravens defence that looked like the Baltimore defence of old at times today) The two ints are tough to swallow obviously but the first one wasnt Manning's fault and could have been called back for pass interference.

At the end of the day did any Broncos fans think that they'd finish the season as top seeds in the AFC with a 13-3 record? With Manning the future is brighter than it would have been with any other QB. They simply came up against a team that was supremely motivated and executed better today.

Im not trying to make excuses for Peyton because the buck ultimately stops with the QB but the Ravens had their QB pass for 3 TDs and 300 yards and Ray Rice ran for over 100 and a score. That's very good production against the leagues top defence

Saw this on Reddit on Manning. Sad but True.

In the 12 seasons (Manning) made the playoffs he has 11 playoff losses (t-most ever), 5 playoff losses at home (all as the 1, 2, or 3 seed), a game-losing interception in the superbowl, and 8 one-and-dones (remember, out of a possible 12)?
What did you expect when the Broncos signed him? Predicting anything other than one and done from him would be awfully delusional. He makes terrible decisions in the clutch and more often than not loses the first game of the playoffs, even when he's the prohibitive favorite to win.
Those who do not know history...

spiralism wrote: »

I don't know who else i'd rather. I just know this stands to get a lot worse once he retires. It's not all his fault but he didn't do enough and ultimately pulled off what Favre did in the 09 NFCCG with the game on the line. Has to look in the mirror.

It's not all on him though. Defence gave up 38 points in our back yard as 13-3 top seeds. We wasted a career day by our returner.

Ultimately, it would take a serious optimist of a broncos fan to hold any hope this team can reach the promised land based on tonight. Plain and simple, we pissed down our leg.

Yeah it was hard not to think of Favre when Manning made the pick. Such a bad decision considering that if he did turn over the ball that it would mean that the Ravens were a first down from FG range.

As far as not being an optimist it's important to remember just how unique the NFL is. It's next to impossible to predict the future in the league and predict who'll win. We generally know who'll be contenders (and the Broncos have to be regarded as that for the next couple of years) but to win a Superbowl takes so many elements coming together. The Patriots are the best example of this. If you had said 8 years ago that Brady and Belichick would still be waiting for a fourth Superbowl ring you'd have been laughed at.

I know as an Eagles fan how tough it is to be dominant in the regular season and not able to win when it counts but all you can do is hope that you knock on the door often enough that it eventually opens