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Shane McGowan - Playwright

  • 12-01-2013 02:35AM
    #1
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭


    Is Shane McGowan the greatest Irish Songwriter of our time ?

    22/25



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  • #2
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    maybe he would be if he was Irish


  • #3
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    maybe he would be if he was Irish
    And great.


  • #4
    gurramok
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    Where To wrote: »
    And great.

    Great British? ;)


  • #5
    Namlub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    I don't understand this thread title, you know a playwright and a songwriter are different things?


  • #6
    ITS_A_BADGER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    a lot of people say hes great only because of fairytale of newyork


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  • #7
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    Namlub wrote: »
    I don't understand this thread title, you know a playwright and a songwriter are different things?

    Listen

    22/25



  • #8
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    1. It's Shane MacGowan
    2. He's not a playwright.
    3. He's English.
    3. No, no he's not the greatest.

    What a disaster of a thread.


  • #9
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    uch wrote: »
    Is Shane McGowan the greatest Irish Songwriter of our time ?

    Urge to kill rising... McGowan is a UK citizen. He is NOT Irish.


  • #10
    sfwcork
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    Taxi for OP


  • #11
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    sfwcork wrote: »
    Taxi for OP
    Outside here now.


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  • #12
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    Confab wrote: »
    Urge to kill rising... McGowan is a UK citizen. He is NOT Irish.

    Ask him where he Heralds from

    22/25



  • #13
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    1. It's Shane MacGowan
    2. He's not a playwright.
    3. He's English.
    3. No, no he's not the greatest.

    What a disaster of a thread.

    The fact you put Shane first says it all

    22/25



  • #14
    Martyn1989
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Martyn1989


    Born in Ireland, spent his child hood here, moved to London, I think he's Irish.

    Rotten accent on him though.


  • #15
    Table Top Joe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭Table Top Joe


    Hes written some great lyrics no doubt about it(songwriter would imply music too surely),but at the same time hes ridiculously overrated by people who buy into all that drunken Oirish literary genius bollocks


    I actually love The Pogues but im the first to say get a grip when discussing Shane and get over his stupid bloody drunken poet image



    Oh and he hasnt to my knowledge written a play either......could be wrong though


  • #16
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Larry Mullen Jr., Now theres a good playwright


  • #17
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Where To wrote: »
    Outside here now.

    Stop beeping, he's coming!

    And Shane McGowan had 2 Irish parents and politically was Irish.


  • #18
    Sinfonia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Martyn1989 wrote: »
    Born in Ireland, spent his child hood here, moved to London, I think he's Irish.

    Rotten accent on him though.

    He was born in England.

    He spent his early childhood here, up to age six, then went back to England.


  • #19
    dd972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    he may have a sh!t accent, but I'm sure he's an Irish citizen, for the benefit of the previous posters who labelled him a Brit, he's as English as J G Ballard is Chinese.

    If you were born in Nigeria to the same Irish parents would you be black?


  • #20
    Martyn1989
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Martyn1989


    Sinfonia wrote: »

    He was born in England.

    He spent his early childhood here, up to age six, then went back to England.
    Yeh just saw that, in Kent while his parents were doing a stint over there, dosnt really make him English though

    I like the pogues a lot, I doubt the fact he wrote some of the songs he's credited for sometimes but who cares


  • #21
    Sunny.Days
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Sunny.Days


    My friend kissed him back in the day when he had no teeth - very funny/disgusting!!


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  • #22
    soap1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭soap1978


    Paul brady a very good songwriter and better then shane.


  • #23
    Namlub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    uch wrote: »
    Listen

    To what?
    dd972 wrote:
    If you were born in Nigeria to the same Irish parents would you be black?
    Well this is a terrible, terrible analogy.


  • #24
    kingtiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    Martyn1989 wrote: »
    I doubt the fact he wrote some of the songs he's credited for sometimes but who cares

    :confused: huh


  • #25
    Kettleson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    Hang on here. Rewind. If we believed the associated story/press/hype/drinking Oirish, Mr McGowan should have been pushing up the daisies at least 20 years ago.

    And we are basing his greatness on Fairytale, a few albums, his ability to sing when "drunk"?

    Every feel you been had? There are plenty better singers, songwriters and so on. He was smart, he knew the deal.

    Merry Christmas me arse.


  • #26
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,808 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Martyn1989 wrote: »
    Born in Ireland, spent his child hood here, moved to London, I think he's Irish.

    Rotten accent teeth on him though.
    FYP

    Not your ornery onager



  • #27
    Lenin Skynard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    dd972 wrote: »
    If you were born in Nigeria to the same Irish parents would you be black?

    You'd be Nigerian, hard to understand what black has to do with anything.


  • #28
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    He's written some great songs. I'm listening to a version of Rainy Night in Soho at the moment actually.

    I heard Liam Clancy's son sing The Broad Majestic Shannon a few months ago, was the first time I'd heard it. Yeah, Shane's no singer, but he's a poet.


  • #29
    Martyn1989
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Martyn1989


    kingtiger wrote: »

    :confused: huh
    He seems like such an incoherent drunk sometimes I doubt he could have written some of the fantastic songs he's been credited with


  • #30
    marcsignal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    uch wrote: »
    Is Shane McGowan the greatest Irish Songwriter of our time ?

    No, I've met him a few times, and he's an arsehole.


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  • #31
    buffalo909
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭buffalo909


    He might have been born in England but its fairly clear from his music and lyrics that he identifies himself as Irish. His songs will endure for a long time even though he's a sad character nowadays.


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