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UK to leave EU?

  • 10-01-2013 01:48PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭


    AMERICA has publicly voiced its concern about the consequences of Britain leaving the European Union, stating that London's "voice" within the EU is "critical to the United States".
    At an event in Dublin marking Ireland's assumption of the presidency, Kenny described the prospect of Britain quitting the EU as a "disaster", while Herman Van Rompuy, the president of the European Council, called on the UK to remain an "active, full, and leading" EU member.

    Seems to be alot of this in UK papers at the moment about them leaving the EU, I think it would be a bad thing for Ireland for trade reasons i suppose but I don't really know any pros and cons for the UK leaving other than the red tops in the UK declaring that the UK would be transformed into a wonderland if they got rid of EU and their bureaucrats...

    interested in peoples opinions on this


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    As much as I'm a euro-sceptic, I don't think it would be good for us, they're one of our main trading partners, plus it could lead to customs at the border again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Wasn't this already put to vote in parliament?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Wasn't this already put to vote in parliament?

    seems there maybe a referendum on the cards if you are to believe various reports


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    The UK swinging its D*ck again, sh*t or get off the pot


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭gallag


    Ghandee wrote: »
    As much as I'm a euro-sceptic, I don't think it would be good for us, they're one of our main trading partners, plus it could lead to customs at the border again.
    Not being in the eu will not stop me buying irish goods, I always try to buy Irish/British goods. I cant see ireland enforcing a trade ban just because Brussels told yous not to sell/buy stuff anymore. The eu has reached the point on the slippery slopewhere it is using fear to make us accept a ffederation, basically saying "if you leave we will bankrupt you"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Lad Of Banter


    Ghandee wrote: »
    As much as I'm a euro-sceptic, I don't think it would be good for us, they're one of our main trading partners, plus it could lead to customs at the border again.

    are there customs at borders of Schengen member countries who aren't EU members (Switzerland, Norway, etc...)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Missed a golden chance to name the thread BRITS OUT?

    The thread would then have no doubt collapsed under a blizzard of ovine thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭mise_me_fein3


    Ghandee wrote: »
    As much as I'm a euro-sceptic, I don't think it would be good for us, they're one of our main trading partners, plus it could lead to customs at the border again.

    Norway and Switzerland seem to be doing ok. I'd like to leave and go back to the punt and default on the debt like Iceland did.

    We could just have a trade and border agreement and get away from this united states of europe stuff.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    If they leave,a new agreement will be put into place regarding Ireland.After all,every second shop you see in Irish shopping centres is British,retailers won't take kindly to import/export taxes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt



    Norway and Switzerland seem to be doing ok. I'd like to leave and go back to the punt and default on the debt like Iceland did.

    We could just have a trade and border agreement and get away from this united states of europe stuff.
    Iceland have fisheries,Norway has oil and Switzerland has the banks.We have turf and spuds,if you think we could,in raw terms,we could default and get away with it on spuds and turf,you're a bit mental.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    On Sky News last night they were reporting on this by saying 'Ireland threatens Britain over EU exit' and that we were 'against a special deal for the UK', which I bet didn't go down well with many people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    I wouldn't expect there to be any trade implications to this.

    As a Brit who used the freedom of movement granted by the EU to painlessly get a job in another EU country I think this would be a real shame, but I think it's unavoidable. The Eurozone countries have to move along a certain path now towards closer integration and that's something that Britain doesn't want a part of. I'm sure the Uk will retail a place as some kind of associated member.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    On Sky News last night they were reporting on this by saying 'Ireland threatens Britain over EU exit' and that we were 'against a special deal for the UK', which I bet didn't go down well with many people.

    Threatened them with what exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    There has always been euro skeptic sentiment in Britain, and the tabloids have always reinforced it. But an actual departure is highly unlikely IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,370 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It's only the Daily Mail and its readers that want to leave the EU, and supporters of the one trick pony party i.e. UKIP.

    I don't think there will ever be a referendum over there, British businesses have too much to lose.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt



    Threatened them with what exactly?
    that we'd stop following the premier league


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Threatened them with what exactly?

    I don't know, it's Sky News... that's just how they chose to report it! They referenced what Kenny said and mentioned ramifications to trade agreements etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    are there customs at borders of Schengen member countries who aren't EU members (Switzerland, Norway, etc...)

    I'm not saying there will be, but that it's possible.

    Let's say some commodity or service becomes a hell of a lot cheaper to buy in Newry than Dublin, do you think our revenue would be happy to watch hundreds of thousands of us travel north and bring these things back unchallenged?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    It's only the Daily Mail and its readers that want to leave the EU, and supporters of the one trick pony party i.e. UKIP.

    I don't think there will ever be a referendum over there, British businesses have too much to lose.
    Well,the big powers in Europe would just make trading with the UK tax free through loophole so it wouldn't effect the major trade for either countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭RossyG


    Ghandee wrote: »
    As much as I'm a euro-sceptic, I don't think it would be good for us, they're one of our main trading partners, plus it could lead to customs at the border again.

    The UK doesn't consider Ireland as a foreign country, so while it'd have those things for Germany, France and the like, they wouldn't for Ireland.

    Doubt they'll be leaving the EU any time soon, anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭RossyG


    leonidas83 wrote: »
    The UK swinging its D*ck again, sh*t or get off the pot

    It's called a negotiating position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    RossyG wrote: »
    It's called a negotiating position.

    Now that weak Enda Kenny is at the helm of the EU presidency for the next 6 months, they probably see this as a good opportunity to push at the weakest link.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    RossyG wrote: »
    The UK doesn't consider Ireland as a foreign country, so while it'd have those things for Germany, France and the like, they wouldn't for Ireland.

    Doubt they'll be leaving the EU any time soon, anyway.

    I was referring to the customs being on our side of the border though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭RossyG


    Ah...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    U can Fook right Off. Always been up their own A$$ that lot

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    anncoates wrote: »
    Missed a golden chance to name the thread BRITS OUT?

    The thread would then have no doubt collapsed under a blizzard of ovine thanks.

    i could still change it but can you imagine the sinn fein heads disappointment when clicking into this thread, it just wouldn't be fair :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    wrote:
    sfwcork




    Ad U can Fook right Off. Always been up their own A$$ that lot

    oops.meant they


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    sfwcork wrote: »
    oops.meant they

    Fantastically well thought out post either way. Bravo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    It isn't in the UK's interests to leave Europe and it isn't in the EU's interests to cut off the third largest economy in Europe.

    I can't see the UK leaving, but if it did, there would be so many loopholes put in place that the majority of business would carry on as usual.


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