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January Transfer Thread - I want! I want! I want!

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  • #212
    Red Crow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    gnfnrhead wrote: »

    On what possible grounds? United sold him, thats the end of it in regards to them.
    We didn't sell him. He left on a free, had he went to Spurs we would of received compensation. Instead he spent a few weeks with the Spurs squad and even lined out for the Development squad in July and then signed for Liege.

    If you can't see how dodgy that is then I give up.


  • #213
    Winston Payne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Winston Payne


    Blatter wrote: »
    It was legal.

    Yeah, that'll do for me. I just can't get outraged about this. Seems that relations between ourselves and Spurs are pretty dreadful at the minute.


  • #214
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Eli Manning wrote: »
    We didn't sell him. He left on a free, had he went to Spurs we would of received compensation. Instead he spent a few weeks with the Spurs squad and even lined out for the Development squad in July and then signed for Liege.

    If you can't see how dodgy that is then I give up.

    People can see how dodgy it is, they just dont give a **** cause its United, if it were the other way around there would be uproar over this.

    Says more about them really.

    I am more bothered by Spuds getting one up on the club then anything, and flaunting it in this fashion.


  • #215
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Winston Payne wrote: »
    Yeah, that'll do for me. I just can't get outraged about this. Seems that relations between ourselves and Spurs are pretty dreadful at the minute.

    I'm not outraged over it, I just agree with Fergie that it's a clear manipulation of the rules, rules that were put in place for a very good reason and something should be done to avoid it happening in the future.


  • #216
    Winston Payne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Winston Payne


    Blatter wrote: »
    I'm not outraged over it, I just agree with Fergie that it's a clear manipulation of the rules, rules that were put in place for a very good reason and something should be done to avoid it happening in the future.


    It's legal yet it's a manipulation of the rules? Ethically there's an issue here, maybe. That's being generous. He was out of contract so he moved to Liege. Now Spurs have signed him. This is within the limitations on player movements within a season.


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  • #217
    [Deleted User]
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    Fantastic opportunism by Levy in fairness.

    The man is some mover.


  • #218
    Leiva
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    Blatter wrote: »
    I'm not outraged over it, I just agree with Fergie that it's a clear manipulation of the rules, rules that were put in place for a very good reason and something should be done to avoid it happening in the future.

    Was he any good?

    Did the club (utd)want him to stay/offer improved terms and contract?

    How much did Leige get him for in the end?


  • #219
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bebe says hello.

    That was perfectly "legal" too.

    I'd say most clubs would chance their arm like Spurs did tbf.


  • #220
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Fantastic opportunism by Levy in fairness.

    The man is some mover.

    He has already been shown up as not the transfer market guru already


  • #221
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    kryogen wrote: »

    He has already been shown up as not the transfer market guru already
    Yea but compared to what they are used to, the man is a f**king mastermind :pac:


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  • #222
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I hate to defend Spurs but I really dont see what they did wrong. To me it just seems like Fergie is pissed that Spurs got the player they wanted and United didnt benefit. United let him go, what happens to him after that is none of their business.


  • #223
    Winston Payne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Winston Payne


    Leiva wrote: »
    Was he any good?

    He was ok. Did fine in the Carling Cup.
    Leiva wrote: »
    Did the club (utd)want him to stay/offer improved terms and contract?

    We didn't exactly kill ourselves.
    Leiva wrote: »
    How much did Leige get him for in the end?


    It might even have been as low as a quarter of a million. Certainly it was a nominal fee. Compensation between clubs is lower if the player's new club isn't in England.



    I'm going to need the supposed link between Fryers and Bebe explained to me.


  • #224
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Winston Payne wrote: »
    It's legal yet it's a manipulation of the rules? Ethically there's an issue here, maybe. That's being generous. He was out of contract so he moved to Liege. Now Spurs have signed him. This is within the limitations on player movements within a season.

    You make it sound like he moved to Liege without Spurs knowing or having anything got to do with it :D

    For me, it's clearly against the spirit of the rules that were put in place. Ask yourself, what's the point in the compo rules in the first place if this can easily be done?
    Leiva wrote: »
    Was he any good?

    Did the club (utd)want him to stay/offer improved terms and contract?

    How much did Leige get him for in the end?

    He won't go on to be anything special imo, average enough tbh. I think he was offered a new contract of about something like 2k/week with no guarantee of first team involvement, which he turned down. I don't think it's been revealed how much Liege got out of the deal.


  • #225
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,758 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Bebe says hello.

    That was perfectly "legal" too.

    I'd say most clubs would chance their arm like Spurs did tbf.

    United paid 7 million for that lad, I think United did it wrong if your comparing the transfers/saying they are the same (they are not the same).

    Also as most sensible posters have said on the actual Topic. It is dodgy even though its legal. The rules should be tightened up to protect all clubs and players. Spurs are not going to get in an trouble for this but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to do it again.


  • #226
    Winston Payne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Winston Payne


    Blatter wrote: »
    You make it sound like he moved to Liege without Spurs knowing nothing or having anything got to do with it :D

    We'd have some time trying to prove that.
    Blatter wrote: »
    For me, it's clearly against the spirit of the rules that were put in place. Ask yourself, what's the point in the compo rules in the first place if this can easily be done?

    Well, quite.


  • #227
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Blatter wrote: »


    He won't go on to be anything special imo, average enough tbh. I think he was offered a new contract of about something like 2k/week with no guarantee of first team involvement, which he turned down. I don't think it's been revealed how much Liege got out of the deal.

    No big deal then and if anything it's Spurs loss.

    If he wasn't rated a few months ago then what's changed to justify the outrage?

    I really can't see this as being a major contraversory if the rolls were reversed.
    If anything I would see the majority of UTD fans asking why you were paying £4mil for a Spurs reject that wasn't rated a few weeks ago.


  • #228
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Bebe says hello.

    That was perfectly "legal" too.

    I'd say most clubs would chance their arm like Spurs did tbf.

    Don't see how this can be compared to the Bebe transfer in any way, he wasn't out of contract, nor was the club he was bought from fooked over.

    Most clubs would chance their arm like Spurs did? There have been numerous opportunities for clubs do have done just that over the last several years, but this is the only time I can remember it being done.


  • #229
    Blatter
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    Leiva wrote: »
    No big deal then and if anything it's Spurs loss.

    If he wasn't rated a few months ago then what's changed to justify the outrage?

    I really can't see this as being a major contraversory if the rolls were reversed.
    If anything I would see the majority of UTD fans asking why you were paying £4mil for a Spurs reject that wasn't rated a few weeks ago.

    I don't think people care about losing Fryers, I certainly don't anyway. Regardless of how good or bad the lad is, rules are in place to compensate clubs that developed young players if they're to move to another English club when their contract expires.

    Spurs bypassed this rule in an underhand manner, that's as clear as day. It's more got to do with the principal of the whole thing rather than losing Fryers. Rules should be put in place to prevent this type of thing happening in the future. Not because United got fooked over, but because it'd be unfair for it to happen to any other club. The rules are there in the first place primarily to protect the smaller clubs from losing their best young players for nothing, they won't be protected if other clubs follow Levy's way of doing things.


  • #230
    Red Crow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Bebe says hello.

    That was perfectly "legal" too.

    I'd say most clubs would chance their arm like Spurs did tbf.

    What a stupid comparison.


  • #231
    .jacksparrow.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Blatter wrote: »

    I don't think people care about losing Fryers, I certainly don't anyway. Regardless of how good or bad the lad is, rules are in place to compensate clubs that developed young players if they're to move to another English club when their contract expires.

    Spurs bypassed this rule in an underhand manner, that's as clear as day. It's more got to do with the principal of the whole thing rather than losing Fryers. Rules should be put in place to prevent this type of thing happening in the future. Not because United got fooked over, but because it'd be unfair for it to happen to any other club. The rules are there in the first place primarily to protect the smaller clubs from losing their best young players for nothing, they won't be protected if other clubs follow Levy's way of doing things.

    Rules?

    Something fergie has forgotten quite a lot lately..


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  • #232
    [Deleted User]
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    Ferguson looking for the FA to look into it and the "phone trail". Some neck tbh.

    Didn't Jaap Stam admit he was tapped up by united?


  • #233
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Ferguson is making some accusation there, who does the burden of proof lie with?


  • #234
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    #yougotlevyed trending on Twitter


  • #235
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Ferguson looking for the FA to look into it and the "phone trail". Some neck tbh.

    Didn't Jaap Stam admit he was tapped up by united?

    Most players are tapped up in the modern game, I thought everybody knew this? It's not right but it's a done thing.

    Striking up deals with foreign clubs in an effort to avoid paying training compensation isn't a done thing. I don't know why you, or others, are comparing the two. They are two different situations.


  • #236
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Ferguson is making some accusation there, who does the burden of proof lie with?

    I doubt a jury would take too long to come to a conclusion.


  • #237
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Rarnes all over this like an outraged cock rash.


  • #238
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Blatter wrote: »
    I doubt a jury would take too long to come to a conclusion.

    LOL, wheres the evidence?

    If all Ferguson has is what he thinks Levy has done then he'll be facing a defamation of character lawsuit and bringing the game into disrepute charge from the FA :rolleyes:


  • #239
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blatter wrote: »
    Most players are tapped up in the modern game, I thought everybody knew this? It's not right but it's a done thing.

    Striking up deals with foreign clubs in an effort to avoid paying training compensation isn't a done thing. I don't know why you, or others, are comparing the two. They are two different situations.

    I know that tapping up occurs all the time.

    I'm highlighting Fergusons hypocrisy over deals. Maybe not a deal that happened exactly like this but underhand deals that I'm sure píssed off fans of other clubs.

    Have Spurs done anything illegal here?


  • #240
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    #yougotlevyed trending on Twitter

    did give me a giggle

    but seriously, look at this from your own clubs perspective, City want Sterling, refuse to pay you compensation so the deal does not take place, Sterling spends all summer with City then at the last minute signs for Liege, and at the first opportunity he signs for City. Giving you nothing. Is it right?

    Though Sterling is actually a product of another academy I think? Point stands its not right and its going to be smaller clubs that lose out if something isnt done to ensure it wont happen again


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  • #241
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    I know that tapping up occurs all the time.

    I'm highlighting Fergusons hypocrisy over deals. Maybe not a deal that happened exactly like this but underhand deals that I'm sure píssed off fans of other clubs.

    Have Spurs done anything illegal here?

    Then what you're saying is that practically no PL manager would have the right to complain about this sort of thing because they've all tapped players up before and are hypocrites. It doesn't work like that.

    It's been already clarified that Spurs have done nothing illegal, I don't think anybody has tried to claim otherwise. It doesn't mean what they did wasn't underhanded and against the spirit of the rules.


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