Are most people non racist in public but actually racist in private.

Real Life · 03-01-2013 06:54PM

everyone is a bit racist. I used to have a black girlfriend and have plenty of friends of other races but ive told racist jokes in my time and still make racist remarks as a joke occasionally but i dont mean any harm by it. i dont think people of any other race are below us, i just make the joke if the opportunity arises. all in the name of fun i never mean any harm by it and thats why id only do it in private where the people around know its only a joke.

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 06:59PM

Real Life wrote: »

everyone is a bit racist. I used to have a black girlfriend and have plenty of friends of other races but ive told racist jokes in my time and still make racist remarks as a joke occasionally but i dont mean any harm by it. i dont think people of any other race are below us, i just make the joke if the opportunity arises. all in the name of fun i never mean any harm by it and thats why id only do it in private where the people around know its only a joke.

I really don't agree with this. I know lots of people who are not in anyway racist. I don't see how you telling jokes proves your hypotheses?

Real Life · 03-01-2013 07:29PM

mango salsa wrote: »

I really don't agree with this. I know lots of people who are not in anyway racist. I don't see how you telling jokes proves your hypotheses?

or have you just not heard them make a racist remark?

Death and Taxes · 03-01-2013 07:37PM

Real Life wrote: »

or have you just not heard them make a racist remark?

Does that mean that you are inferring all Irish people are racist? Since only a racist would make a racist remark.

Real Life · 03-01-2013 08:00PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Does that mean that you are inferring all Irish people are racist? Since only a racist would make a racist remark.

no, really what i was trying to say is not everyone that makes a racist remark is actually racist. people just take it too seriously sometimes.

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 08:04PM

Real Life wrote: »

or have you just not heard them make a racist remark?

No.

I genuinely know lots of people who are not in any way racist. Extrapolating that the entire population is a little bit racist because you tell racist jokes makes no sense at all.

Real Life · 03-01-2013 08:08PM

mango salsa wrote: »

No.

I genuinely know lots of people who are not in any way racist. Extrapolating that the entire population is a little bit racist because you tell racist jokes makes no sense at all.

you're picking me up wrong

Death and Taxes · 03-01-2013 08:10PM

Real Life wrote: »

or have you just not heard them make a racist remark?

Real Life wrote: »

no, really what i was trying to say is not everyone that makes a racist remark is actually racist. people just take it too seriously sometimes.

There is a name for people who tell racist jokes.....they're called Racists!

Real Life · 03-01-2013 08:14PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

There is a name for people who tell racist jokes.....they're called Racists!

no, you're still not getting what im saying or else you're just irrational

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 08:21PM

Real Life wrote: »

you're picking me up wrong

How?

0066ad · 03-01-2013 08:25PM

Real Life wrote: »

no, you're still not getting what im saying or else you're just irrational

What ever point you are trying to make, they will still find fault you are
dealing with the professionally offended brigade here.

zaeization · 03-01-2013 08:55PM

I don't believe that any group of people besides the Irish should live in Ireland. I am deemed the R-word for that but that's ridiculous because I believe all people should have a space exclusive for themselves large enough to sustain their long term survival. When i look at any other group on the planet let's pick the black african's because i can see that they have an exclusive space large enough for their people's long term sustenance. Now if there was massive non-black immigration into a hypothetical black man's country i would not call him the R-word for objecting to it after all how long would it still be his country if he did not object, i would not try and persuade him that his people's face no alteration socially because that's a lie, or religiously or genetically because that would be a lie.
I would think it right out insane for anyone to call him a racist for objecting to the alteration of his people and his nation.
Go ahead use your silly little hyped up buzz words to try and scare me away or anyone reading this who agrees. But as the OP knows only to well most people feel this way and no matter the jargon you try and persuade us with we won't be sold your house of cards forever.

Madam_X · 03-01-2013 08:57PM

zaeization wrote: »

as the OP knows only to well most people feel this way

Well the OP doesn't know that only too well, seeing as it's not true.

zaeization · 03-01-2013 09:05PM

Madam X the OP believes in a lie the lie is the R-word can i convince him/her that's a lie in just one post, so let's play along with the terminology see if we can grasp any real understanding.

666irishguy · 03-01-2013 09:12PM

zaeization wrote: »

Madam X the OP believes in a lie the lie is the R-word can i convince him/her that's a lie in just one post, so let's play along with the terminology see if we can grasp any real understanding.

So I can assume you are one of the few Irish people in existence to have no family members past or present ever immigrate?

Death and Taxes · 03-01-2013 09:13PM

zaeization wrote: »

Madam X the OP believes in a lie the lie is the R-word can i convince him/her that's a lie in just one post, so let's play along with the terminology see if we can grasp any real understanding.

Racisim is not a lie, it is a fact.

zaeization · 03-01-2013 09:15PM

So it's your opinion versus my opinion on how people think.We won't get anywhere on that issue. Do you believe it's racist for a black man to want an area exclusive for his peoples large enough to sustain their long term survival, it seems you think that is racist what's racist about that?

Death and Taxes · 03-01-2013 09:15PM

zaeization wrote: »

I don't believe that any group of people besides the Irish should live in Ireland. I am deemed the R-word for that but that's ridiculous because I believe all people should have a space exclusive for themselves large enough to sustain their long term survival. When i look at any other group on the planet let's pick the black african's because i can see that they have an exclusive space large enough for their people's long term sustenance. Now if there was massive non-black immigration into a hypothetical black man's country i would not call him the R-word for objecting to it after all how long would it still be his country if he did not object, i would not try and persuade him that his people's face no alteration socially because that's a lie, or religiously or genetically because that would be a lie.
I would think it right out insane for anyone to call him a racist for objecting to the alteration of his people and his nation.
Go ahead use your silly little hyped up buzz words to try and scare me away or anyone reading this who agrees. But as the OP knows only to well most people feel this way and no matter the jargon you try and persuade us with we won't be sold your house of cards forever.

They do, it's called the world, aka planet earth.

Noel Kinsella · 03-01-2013 09:17PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Racisim is not a lie, it is a fact.

Do you have any stats to back up this statement ? Or is it just an opinion ? How many convictions have there been for racism in Ireland in the last 5 years ? Not many I would think, as we are a very welcoming bunch us Irish.

zaeization · 03-01-2013 09:24PM

Wiley How much does immigration effect the planet outside of the our little part of it, very little last time i looked most people on the planet like it that way that's why japan is still 99% japanese, whats wrong with japan staying japanese or china chinese and likewise what would be so wrong with ireland staying irish?

Unorthodox · 03-01-2013 09:27PM

Can't stand racism -_- I can say I'm 100% not racist

Noel Kinsella · 03-01-2013 09:28PM

What if a person has given all the people he/she ever meets a fair chance BUT time and time again has bad experiences with certain nationalities ? What if a person has come to the conclusion that certain nationalities in their experience are bringing nothing but bad experiences, arrogance, ignorance, aggression to them and their neighbours and after 10 years have come to the conclusion " I dont think I like that particular nationality of people I dont want to be around them" Does that make the person a racist ? OR are we free to like or dislike whoever we choose ?

Lyaiera · 03-01-2013 09:32PM

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

What if a person has given all the people he/she ever meets a fair chance BUT time and time again has bad experiences with certain nationalities ? What if a person has come to the conclusion that certain nationalities in their experience are bringing nothing but bad experiences, arrogance, ignorance, aggression to them and their neighbours and after 10 years have come to the conclusion " I dont think I like that particular nationality of people I dont want to be around them" Does that make the person a racist ? OR are we free to like or dislike whoever we choose ?

No, that makes them xenophobic. But that you conflate countries and races makes you racist.

Reekwind · 03-01-2013 09:33PM

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Does that make the person a racist ? OR are we free to like or dislike whoever we choose ?

Yes to both. People can dislike whoever they want but the moment that they start discriminating on the basis of ethnicity then they're racist

zaeization · 03-01-2013 09:38PM

Reekwind What do you call it when you impose conditions on a race that brings about the DESTRUCTION of that race?

Noel Kinsella · 03-01-2013 09:40PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

No, that makes them xenophobic. But that you conflate countries and races makes you racist.

Well then I know a couple of racists alright. I must have a word with them I cant stand racism total disgrace.

old hippy · 03-01-2013 10:08PM

dixiedan wrote: »

Maybe a bit off topic, but why is oriental an archaic and offensive term? My brother bought the ma an oriental rug from the far east when he was travelling some years ago ... and the term oriental rug is quite common.

And I have to say that your final remark is quite condescending and patronising.

Without wishing to come across as patronising again; rugs are somewhat different to people, dixie.

old hippy · 03-01-2013 10:10PM

zaeization wrote: »

Reekwind What do you call it when you impose conditions on a race that brings about the DESTRUCTION of that race?

Try harder. What conditions, exactly?

0066ad · 03-01-2013 10:17PM

old hippy wrote: »

Without wishing to come across as patronising again; rugs are somewhat different to people, dixie.

Would you have known that word oriental was considered incorrect if
you hadn't of met your Japanese wife?

A lot of the people here are confused oriental means east should we get
offended if people call us westerners?

old hippy · 03-01-2013 10:23PM

zaeization wrote: »

Wiley How much does immigration effect the planet outside of the our little part of it, very little last time i looked most people on the planet like it that way that's why japan is still 99% japanese, whats wrong with japan staying japanese or china chinese and likewise what would be so wrong with ireland staying irish?

What's wrong is people claiming the status qou is fine because it's always been.

How do you want Ireland to "stay Irish" exactly? Should my wife never have gone there? My mom stayed in her own country? My great great etc grandfather never come over from Scotland?

How the flaming heck do you "stay Irish"?

The world is in a state of flux; we move, we emigrate and we mix.

Get over it, it's life.

Are most people non racist in public but actually racist in private.

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