hello and where's your money?

Wanderer2010 · 29-12-2012 12:39PM

Duck Soup wrote: »

Which is why I said "perhaps". I'm asking more than anything if things are different in other Irish cities - Galway, Limerick, Cork.

Did you forget Waterford? We have a major problem with chuggers down here too.

mikemac1 · 29-12-2012 12:40PM

Everyone forgets the marble city

The King of Moo · 29-12-2012 12:49PM

Homeless people had more class in my day, they'd never have the nerve to ask their betters for money directly.

Wanderer2010 · 29-12-2012 12:50PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Everyone forgets the marble city

Ye win the All Ireland every year, we see enough of you

MagicMarker · 29-12-2012 12:54PM

Duck Soup wrote: »

Once, and I mean once, did someone stop me in the last year and not ask me for money. An American woman in her early 20s was in Merrion Square looking for her Irish friend picking her up from the Airbus. She asked if she could use my phone and I was happy to help.

She was hot, wasn't she?

dj jarvis · 29-12-2012 01:23PM

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

It's a Dublin issue from my experience, no need to go dragging the other Irish cities into it. A third world capital city by European standards.

LOL - say you from Castlebar
Dublin may be in your opinion a 3rd world capital by European standards,
but Castlebar is a pig sty by any ones standard, let alone European standards.
and just so you know, it is not a city either , so no one is dragging it anywhere

but seeing its been a week since a pointless anti Dublin thread, i suppose you as much as anybody should start it

but come on - CASTLEBAR :rolleyes:

and FYI . Cork , Galway LImerick also have street beggars , chuggers and muggers , maybe not in the same numbers as Dublin , but its a
numbers game , you see , more people live in Dublin , so attracts more pan handlers , so do you see how that works
and shock horror , i have seen beggars and chuggers in London , Berlin , Helsinki - so Dublin is not unique im afraid
this has been a public info broadcast for slightly dumb people - carry on

token101 · 29-12-2012 04:17PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

LOL - say you from Castlebar
Dublin may be in your opinion a 3rd world capital by European standards,
but Castlebar is a pig sty by any ones standard, let alone European standards.
and just so you know, it is not a city either , so no one is dragging it anywhere

but seeing its been a week since a pointless anti Dublin thread, i suppose you as much as anybody should start it

but come on - CASTLEBAR :rolleyes:

and FYI . Cork , Galway LImerick also have street beggars , chuggers and muggers , maybe not in the same numbers as Dublin , but its a
numbers game , you see , more people live in Dublin , so attracts more pan handlers , so do you see how that works
and shock horror , i have seen beggars and chuggers in London , Berlin , Helsinki - so Dublin is not unique im afraid
this has been a public info broadcast for slightly dumb people - carry on

And with grammar and punctuation like that you've nailed your demographic. It looks like this guy was in charge of typing.

greenheart · 29-12-2012 05:20PM

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

It's a Dublin issue from my experience, no need to go dragging the other Irish cities into it. A third world capital city by European standards.

Ha Ha, we have it good compared to some cities. Barcelona for one..

brummytom · 29-12-2012 05:26PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

LOL - say you from Castlebar
Dublin may be in your opinion a 3rd world capital by European standards,
but Castlebar is a pig sty by any ones standard, let alone European standards.
and just so you know, it is not a city either , so no one is dragging it anywhere

but seeing its been a week since a pointless anti Dublin thread, i suppose you as much as anybody should start it

but come on - CASTLEBAR :rolleyes:

and FYI . Cork , Galway LImerick also have street beggars , chuggers and muggers , maybe not in the same numbers as Dublin , but its a
numbers game , you see , more people live in Dublin , so attracts more pan handlers , so do you see how that works
and shock horror , i have seen beggars and chuggers in London , Berlin , Helsinki - so Dublin is not unique im afraid
this has been a public info broadcast for slightly dumb people - carry on

You're not from Dublin by any chance, are you?

Having lived in two cities larger than Dublin (Birmingham and Manchester), and having been to London dozens of times, I have never seen anywhere near as many beggars/chuggers as I have in the centre of Dublin. It can't make a good impression on tourists.

Red Hand · 29-12-2012 05:32PM

brummytom wrote: »

You're not from Dublin by any chance, are you?

Having lived in two cities larger than Dublin (Birmingham and Manchester), and having been to London dozens of times, I have never seen anywhere near as many beggars/chuggers as I have in the centre of Dublin. It can't make a good impression on tourists.

*Looks directly at brummytom, face lights up, gives him a big smile, extends hand for handshake*

"Hi there, do you have two minutes for Concern?"

woodoo · 29-12-2012 05:54PM

I never ever give roma beggars money. Chuggers are irritating sometimes its easier to speak to them than ignore them but i still never give them anything.

The only money good causes get from me is if they are selling tickets for a draw and i know the people selling them.

seven_eleven · 29-12-2012 06:10PM

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Did you forget Waterford? We have a major problem with chuggers down here too.

Do we? I rarely see them.

Tchaikovsky · 29-12-2012 06:35PM

In Tbilisi the beggar kids actually grab onto your leg while you're walking and don't let go.
Something for everyone to look forward to in Dublin when that business idea spreads.

languagenerd · 29-12-2012 06:57PM

It's getting worse and worse as time goes on. Before you might have seen one or two chuggers or a couple of groups fundraising, but now there's one every few feet trying to guilt you into giving them money. The thing is, if you gave €2 to every chugger who asked, you'd end up needing to avail of their charity's services yourself!

And as for beggars... It's hard to dismiss them all, because some of them are genuinely in need - but nowadays it's really hard to tell who's actually desperate for money and who's a scammer. I rarely give money to anyone on the street anymore, because you get really sick of people asking and because it's impossible to tell who's scamming you.

Dublin City Council and the Gardaí need to do something about this. You should be able to walk down a street and not be hassled for money by ten or twelve different people. It can be intimidating, especially at night, and it does not give off a good impression for tourists... and tourism is so important for the economy, we need to do everything we can to make sure they keep coming!

road_high · 29-12-2012 06:59PM

It's definitely gotten worse since 2008. Everywhere I seem to go these days there is sombody with a bloody bucket collecting for something. More often than not it's not even what I would regard as a "Charity". It's usually some local football team, GAA club, or even Musical groups...especially those annoying bag packers that no one wants in the supermarket. I don't see why I should have to pay for someones elses leisure activity....Aldi/Lidl/Superquinn ftw as they don't let these leeches in the door!

Scruffles · 29-12-2012 07:19PM

working fool wrote: »

Not really confined to Dublin
In slane village last wednsday there was a crowd collecting at the traffic lights
One of them stood in the middle of the road blocking traffic shaking a bucket
Dunno what they where even collecting for no I'd badges or anything .

the ethanol osmose foundation?

kneemos · 29-12-2012 07:19PM

mfitzy wrote: »

It's definitely gotten worse since 2008. Everywhere I seem to go these days there is sombody with a bloody bucket collecting for something. More often than not it's not even what I would regard as a "Charity". It's usually some local football team, GAA club, or even Musical groups...especially those annoying bag packers that no one wants in the supermarket. I don't see why I should have to pay for someones elses leisure activity....Aldi/Lidl/Superquinn ftw as they don't let these leeches in the door!

I feel your pain with the bag packers.The best one I've seen was for a local boating club.

Tchaikovsky · 29-12-2012 07:22PM

languagenerd wrote: »

It can be intimidating, especially at night, and it does not give off a good impression for tourists... and tourism is so important for the economy, we need to do everything we can to make sure they keep coming!

And make sure that we keep ripping them off with exorbitant prices; especially as 2013 is the year of The Pisstaking.

Our man in Havana · 29-12-2012 07:25PM

The problem is as usual there is no decent legislation in Ireland to deal with beggars, chuggers and their ilk. The laws go back to Victorian times and are now totally useless in modern Ireland.

Death and Taxes · 29-12-2012 07:27PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

The problem is as usual there is no decent legislation in Ireland to deal with beggars, chuggers and their ilk. The laws go back to Victorian times and are now totally useless in modern Ireland.

I beg (pun intended) to differ, our law on begging is only a couple of years old. (The Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act 2011 )

road_high · 29-12-2012 07:32PM

kneemos wrote: »

I feel your pain with the bag packers.The best one I've seen was for a local boating club.

Is that a pisstake? Cheeky fcukers! Surely that was in Donnybrook Fair or some where

road_high · 29-12-2012 07:34PM

kneemos wrote: »

I feel your pain with the bag packers.The best one I've seen was for a local boating club.

I feel Dunnes/Tesco/Super Valu must be getting a cut 'cos I always see them there. The local SV especially, drives me insane. As I said it's nearly ALWAYS a local sports club and not ones from really deprived areas either.

Our man in Havana · 29-12-2012 07:34PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

I beg (pun intended) to differ, our law on begging is only a couple of years old. (The Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act 2011 )

Thanks for that, I was not aware of that.

I have not heard of many prosecutions for begging and related activities in recent times.

Death and Taxes · 29-12-2012 07:38PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Thanks for that, I was not aware of that.

I have not heard of many prosecutions for begging and related activities in recent times.

The Irish Times reported 177 arrests in the first month after the law was enacted. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0401/1224293540839.html

However I don't have more recent figures. I expect with the EU presidency in the coming 6 months there will be a major crackdown in Dublin city centre.

mikemac1 · 29-12-2012 07:39PM

Someone might tell the gardaí who spend all day propping up the GPO wall

road_high · 29-12-2012 07:43PM

I feel Irish people are such a soft touch when it comes to buckets being shoved in their faces etc. They are embaressed to say no and would rather "look good" than say no to some of these so-called charities. They don't even question what it's for. Seen it in pubs a few times with muppets going around selling raffle tickets and what not.

kneemos · 29-12-2012 07:46PM

mfitzy wrote: »

Is that a pisstake? Cheeky fcukers! Surely that was in Donnybrook Fair or some where

Co Wexford area,as far as I know it's a club for kids to go canoeing and the like.

ColeTrain · 29-12-2012 07:57PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

LOL - say you from Castlebar
Dublin may be in your opinion a 3rd world capital by European standards,
but Castlebar is a pig sty by any ones standard, let alone European standards.
and just so you know, it is not a city either , so no one is dragging it anywhere

Castlebar is just a town of about 12,000, why would you even compare it to Dublin? No need to call it a pig sty when you don't know what you're talking about.

Larianne · 29-12-2012 08:01PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Someone might tell the gardaí who spend all day propping up the GPO wall

You'd be surprised how few gardaí patrol that area.

There is just not enough of them to respond to junkie harrassment, theft and begging in that area.

carlmango11 · 29-12-2012 08:32PM

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

It's a Dublin issue from my experience, no need to go dragging the other Irish cities into it. A third world capital city by European standards.

Try visiting Paris, Barcelona or Rome

hello and where's your money?

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