Woman viciously assaults barman leaving him permanently scarred, gets no jail time

Happy Monday · 19-12-2012 04:33AM

Interesting how little media attention this got. Had the shoe been on the other foot you can be sure someone would have said something.

B.A._Baracus · 19-12-2012 04:41AM

How come the other thread about this was deleted?

19-12-2012 04:50AM

GRMA wrote: »

Bang on.

This is not a gender issue, but a class one.

Are we not doing "Judges/this country doesn't care about women" in this thread?

Merkin · 19-12-2012 04:57AM

Glassing someone has got to be one of the lowest violent crimes out there, she should have had the book thrown at her

kraggy · 19-12-2012 05:03AM

Am I right in saying that it was the Brazilian bar man who got glassed?

Had he been Irish, would the sentence had been different?

nice_very · 19-12-2012 05:04AM

as a person in the trade, if anyone - male or female was acting like that, they would have been put on the floor and gardai called before they had a chance to glass me. inexperienced barman perhaps

How Soon Is Now · 19-12-2012 05:05AM

None of this surprises me one bit the whole thing is pretty much how i figured it would of went. Other way around and it would of been national Rte news type stuff believe me.

Ive seen on many occasions both in Ireland and in other country's women kicking ****e out each other or doing just as bad to a fella and there was very little if anything done about it.

Ill give a personal example of how ''equal'' things are leading up to these situations. I was in a club one night out in the smoking area talking to a few mates this group of young ones where behind me and one smacked into the back of me clearly it was her own fault i wasn't even drunk either.

Her drink and her mates went flying and smashed she went mental started shouting at me threw an ashtray at me lucky i was wearing a big kinda padded jacket ha. Anyway i shouted at her and told her to **** off away from me or ill kill her. Guess who got dragged out the club and told they where barred

She clearly was not part of the upper class of Dublin either :pac:. Unfortunately in a lot of cases not all thank god its one rule for women and another for men.

dMaN24 · 19-12-2012 05:07AM

Oh dear. I just happened to link both her profile and the news article on my facebook-page.

I guess it's time to hide from wielding glasses now.

J_E · 19-12-2012 05:11AM

kraggy wrote: »

Am I right in saying that it was the Brazilian bar man who got glassed?

Had he been Irish, would the sentence had been different?

No, I think you're missing the point here.

kraggy · 19-12-2012 05:16AM

Cydoniac wrote: »

No, I think you're missing the point here.

No, I'm not. There can be 2 points to a story.

Besides the class issue, race can come into it too.

Procasinator · 19-12-2012 05:18AM

kraggy wrote: »

No, I'm not. There can be 2 points to a story.

Besides the class issue, race can come into it too.

Don't forget gender too.

19-12-2012 06:22AM

Disgusting.. If I did that to a barmaid, my life would be null and void.

19-12-2012 06:25AM

Really think these cases should be given to the judge and jury with the genders changed.. I've seen it done in PI threads and it's a great way to give a level playing field.

Galwayguy35 · 19-12-2012 06:45AM

I'm not sure TBH if the fact that she was a rich little college girl was the reason that she got off so lightly.

There have been cases as well where scumbags and skangers have got off scot free because they come up with some hard luck story.

The justice system is too lenient here in Ireland and I think that is the problem, hell if you kill someone with remission you could be out in 10 years.

padd b1975 · 19-12-2012 08:10AM

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

I wish i could see this.

Why??

Death and Taxes · 19-12-2012 09:23AM

GRMA wrote: »

Our legal system, the British common law legal system, which gives unelected Judges incredible power is fundamentally flawed. The civil legal system, based on the Napoleonic code, whilst flawed and by no means perfect, is vastly superior as is used on the majority of 1st world countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LegalSystemsOfTheWorldMap.png

We'll never have change the way things are run, the legal sector are a law unto themselves, self regulate etc.

GRMA, we seldom agree but I am fully with you on this one.

Death and Taxes · 19-12-2012 09:36AM

Bambi wrote: »

If it's any consolation justice mc cartan was a TD before he was a judge, his buddies from the workers party landed him the court gig after they wound up in govt.

MR Justice Abbot also ex TD, Mr Justice Birmingham also an ex TD and Junior Minister, and thats just a few, at least one Supreme Court member was a founder member of the P.D.'s and was appointed directly to the Supreme Court by a P.D. Minister for Justice having never held judicial office prior to that.
Politics and the Judiciary in Ireland have very very close links.

JustAddWater · 19-12-2012 09:44AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Surely the DPP has a responsibility to appeal the leniency of these sentences?

They do indeed! Infact they're appealing the 6 months that Anthony Lyons got so yes, they can and do appeal

keith16 · 19-12-2012 09:44AM

Isn't it remarkable that judges and courts have almost no accountability to anyone....this needs to change. These people live in a bubble.

Maudi · 19-12-2012 10:15AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/suspended-sentence-for-actress-who-left-barman-permanently-scarred-after-glassing-incident-3331414.html

I don't want to live on this planet anymore. :mad:

There are literally so many utterly f*cked up things about this I don't even know where to start. I find the "you can't touch me I'm a girl" before whacking the guy with a glass particularly incendiary, but that's just my general hatred for people who abuse double standards. The entire story is horrific, and the fact that she's got off scott free sickens me.

HOW does a scumbag like this get a suspended sentence???
F*ck this country's legal system. I'm getting more despairing about it every day.

i know how you feel.dont let despair win though..its when you hear horrific things like this one has to stay strong..behind the scenes that animal will get what she deserves.

yermandan · 19-12-2012 10:17AM

Why was the original thread closed?

Richard Hillman · 19-12-2012 10:24AM

It doesn't matter if its Tanya from Trinners or Jacinta from Dolphins Barn, the point that needs to be looked at is that nobody goes to prison for these sorts of crimes. Dont be letting class blind your opinion. You can pretty much attack anybody and get away with it in Ireland. There is a bloke living close to me that broke a girls nose after stealing her phone in a mugging. Despite umpteen convictions, did he do anytime for it? did he ****. I see the chap still walking the streets without a care in the world.

TBH it sounds she had a manic episode and needs mental help.

Debator · 19-12-2012 10:32AM

Seaneh wrote: »

Pretty blonde trinity graduate from a middle class family in the North who could afford a very good barrister and works in "the arts"?
Fairly easy see why she got off.

Absolute farce. She could have killed or blinded that poor man, all because she was trying to steal from the store room and got caught and started acting like a spoiled little cu*t and threw a temper tantrum, and then went on to assault another member of staff and two female Gardai...

If it was a lad he would have gotten atleast 6 months jail, maybe more.

But not some nice petite pretty blonde actress with a degree from Trinners who comes from a nice Northern middle class family, oh heavens no, poor thing, she just had a bad night...

What has her university got to do with anything? Are you bitter you didn't get enough points for Trinity (traditionally a bastion of Protestantism in Ireland)? Or is it that she's a Northern Protestant that annoys you?

Genuine questions. In other assault cases the offender's educational/religious background is never mentioned or taken into account. Seems like you have an agenda to me.

Mr. teddywinkles · 19-12-2012 10:35AM

Would be interesting to see if the glass had been put in her face in self defence of the barman. She'd probably be sueing him or he'd have to serve time.
What a messed up system :mad:
This isnt a gender issue its the c**t carrying out the act of violence.
Should have their a** kicked up and down the street.

gozunda · 19-12-2012 10:36AM

YFlyer wrote: »

Lol at the guy at 3:25

Bunny boiler...

The historical scene is hilarious - watch out for the mobile phone tower in the bagkground around the same point.

I wonder did she put on such a good act for the judge...

19-12-2012 10:39AM

Debator wrote: »

What has her university got to do with anything? Are you bitter you didn't get enough points for Trinity (traditionally a bastion of Protestantism in Ireland)? Or is it that she's a Northern Protestant that annoys you?

Genuine questions. In other assault cases the offender's educational/religious background is never mentioned or taken into account. Seems like you have an agenda to me.

Your the one bringing up religion!
I think you will find that it was the defense counsel that most likely brought up her education/social status in the court as a way to show this event as out of character!

listermint · 19-12-2012 10:39AM

Debator wrote: »

What has her university got to do with anything? Are you bitter you didn't get enough points for Trinity (traditionally a bastion of Protestantism in Ireland)? Or is it that she's a Northern Protestant that annoys you?

Genuine questions. In other assault cases the offender's educational/religious background is never mentioned or taken into account. Seems like you have an agenda to me.

I suppose traditionally it can be construed as a class distinction.

It appears toy are the one with the agenda tbf.

Debator · 19-12-2012 10:42AM

listermint wrote: »

I suppose traditionally it can be construed as a class distinction.

It appears toy are the one with the agenda tbf.

No agenda from me. I'm not the one making accusations about this girl. A very snarky post was made by Seaneh which was very offensive to all Trinity graduates. There were undertones on anti-Prostentism in his post also (he brought up the fact she was from the North).

YFlyer · 19-12-2012 10:44AM

gozunda wrote: »

Bunny boiler...

The historical scene is hilarious - watch out for the mobile phone tower in the bagkground around the same point.

I wonder did she put on such a good act for the judge...

Haha I missed that

19-12-2012 10:45AM

Debator wrote: »

No agenda from me. I'm not the one making accusations about this girl. A very snarky post was made by Seaneh which was very offensive to all Trinity graduates. There were undertones on anti-Prostentism in his post also (he brought up the fact she was from the North).

Where in seanehs post was religion mentioned?

By the way I am a trinity graduate and I took no offense from the post as there was no suggestion that all trinity graduates go around smashing glasses in peoples faces! :rolleyes:

Woman viciously assaults barman leaving him permanently scarred, gets no jail time

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