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"Victims" of flashers

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  • #32
    Ernesto Dry Stock-still
    Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Ernesto Dry Stock-still


    Could you not have worked it out for yourself, OP? Some people really are so blind to the realities of the world and so lacking in empathy.


  • #33
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    You generalised that flashers get a sexual thrill from flashing. How do you know that all flashers get a sexual thrill from it. The could of a number of reasons they do it.


    Imo its a form of Indecent exposure and its not done for the benefit of the victim,just for the pleasure of the flasher,mostly to women or young children and mostly by men.Now give me a few reasons why they might flash.


  • #34
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    gg2 wrote: »
    I was flashed walking home from school one day with a friend, we were about 14. Still feel sick thinking about it. He just whipped it out, 2 of us screamed and he ran off. Still see the guy about town regularly and **** myself because I think he's gonna do it again!

    If he does do it again, give him a swift kick to the goolies(he wont be expecting that!), and report him to the gardai.


  • #35
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    realies wrote: »


    Imo its a form of Indecent exposure and its not done for the benefit of the victim,just for the pleasure of the flasher,mostly to women or young children and mostly by men.Now give me a few reasons why they might flash.

    Do you think a flasher would only do it for sexual reasons?


  • #36
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    Ernesto Dry Stock-still wrote: »
    Could you not have worked it out for yourself, OP? Some people really are so blind to the realities of the world and so lacking in empathy.
    I'm empathic as f**k so there. I guess I just won't know until it happens, but at least when it does and I'm scared to leave the house in daylight for years or whatever, I'll be able to appreciate the emotional learning experience of it all.

    The closest I think I've come to it is having burly gay bears come onto me, although again I just found it amusing.
    syklops wrote: »
    If he does do it again, give him a swift kick to the goolies(he wont be expecting that!), and report him to the gardai.
    Oh you're an advocate of anti-male violence. Who would have guessed...


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  • #37
    gg2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭gg2


    syklops wrote: »
    If he does do it again, give him a swift kick to the goolies(he wont be expecting that!), and report him to the gardai.

    We actually did report it. The guards came to my friends house, I warned her not to sent them to mine as my mam would totally over react and being 14 I was so so embarrassed about it... Can't remember now if anything ever came out of it


  • #38
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    You generalised that flashers get a sexual thrill from flashing. How do you know that all flashers get a sexual thrill from it. The could of a number of reasons they do it.

    With the exception of sports streakers or lads on a drunken bet or something, that actually is usually the motivation for it. Flashers generally single out women on their own for that purpose, for the thrill of imposing on somebody else's peace of mind. It's weird and intimidating because it's meant to be weird and intimidating, that's what they get out of it.

    http://walking.about.com/od/medfirstaid/a/exhibitionists.htm
    "A flasher/exhibitionist is someone who is getting naked in a public place where people who are not consenting to seeing them can see them. Some flashers/exhibitionists get aroused by this, others find that the behavior reduces anxiety or gives them a sense of control. But the key is being seen in a way that they aren't supposed to be."

    It's also worth pointing out that flashers aren't usually just flashers. It's a power thing, and when the novelty of that wears off, behaviour can escalate:
    "It is a big mistake to dismiss flashing as a nuisance. Some flashers -- whether or not they suffer from exhibitionism -- also engage in other bad behavior, up to and including sexual assault. Some may start by flashing and then escalate to coercive acts such as rape."

    Flashers are rarely the kind of guys you hear about on the news and think "Gosh, and they always seemed so normal". It's a behaviour associated with other bad behaviours, all related to intruding on other people's spheres for the kick of control.

    I would not consider some drunken college bro mooning out a bus a flasher, for the record. To my mind, a flasher is a specific kind of creep with a particular recurring compulsion, and I think most women would think of that kind of person when they heard the word.


  • #39
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    OP, Carry On films are not real life.


  • #40
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    BhoscaCapall wrote: »

    Oh you're an advocate of anti-male violence. Who would have guessed...

    Ridiculous thing to say. If somebody flashes you I think a good swift kick in the nuts is an appropriate response.


  • #41
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    Collie D wrote: »
    Ridiculous thing to say. If somebody flashes you I think a good swift kick in the nuts is an appropriate response.
    I'm sorry but I can't bring myself to debate with anyone who advocates violence. Grow up and come back when you take a more mature approach to things please.


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  • #42
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Generalisation.
    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Can you actually not think of another reason why someone would flash? Try using your imagination.
    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Do you think a flasher would only do it for sexual reasons?


    You can give your own opinions instead of this cloak & dagger posts.


  • #43
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    When my mum was growing up, there was seemingly this guy that would regularly flash people. He would apparently be wearing a long jacket with a pair of pants. When he opened his jacket, it turned out that the pants legs only went up to perhaps his knees, but the rest of him was absolutely butt naked.


  • #44
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    jill_valentine wrote: »

    With the exception of sports streakers or lads on a drunken bet or something, that actually is usually the motivation for it. Flashers generally single out women on their own for that purpose, for the thrill of imposing on somebody else's peace of mind. It's weird and intimidating because it's meant to be weird and intimidating, that's what they get out of it.

    http://walking.about.com/od/medfirstaid/a/exhibitionists.htm



    It's also worth pointing out that flashers aren't usually just flashers. It's a power thing, and when the novelty of that wears off, behaviour can escalate:



    They aren't usually the kind of guys you hear about on the news and think "Gosh, and they always seemed so normal. It's a behaviour associated with other bad behaviours, all related to intruding on other people's peace of mind for the kick of control.

    A flasher could do it for a number of reasons. It could be for sexual pleasure, as a result of a bet, as a result of a dare, because they find it funny or amusing or it could, to impress friends, because they are insane or mentally disabled or because they want to get a reaction or are curious what the flashee's reaction would be.


  • #45
    liquoriceall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭liquoriceall


    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    I'm empathic as f**k so there. I guess I just won't know until it happens, but at least when it does and I'm scared to leave the house in daylight for years or whatever, I'll be able to appreciate the emotional learning experience of it all.

    The closest I think I've come to it is having burly gay bears come onto me, although again I just found it amusing.


    Oh you're an advocate of anti-male violence. Who would have guessed...
    I fail to see how you can compare a man coming onto you to being flashed?? Seriously? Do you really feel that they equate


  • #46
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Having someone hit on you isn't even close to being flashed.
    Depends how romantic they are


  • #47
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    I'm empathic as f**k so there. I guess I just won't know until it happens, but at least when it does and I'm scared to leave the house in daylight for years or whatever, I'll be able to appreciate the emotional learning experience of it all.

    I assume this is directed at me.

    I'm very sorry I couldn't confirm your impression that flashing is a harmless pastime that is needlessly blown out of all proportion by emotional women. Its a shame you feel the need to be so hostile towards my post, but I can cope with that.

    There are websites where you can discuss these matters with people of the same opinion, should you seek them out.


  • #48
    Red Hand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Deleted User wrote: »
    When my mum was growing up, there was seemingly this guy that would regularly flash people. He would apparently be wearing a long jacket with a pair of pants. When he opened his jacket, it turned out that the pants legs only went up to perhaps his knees, but the rest of him was absolutely butt naked.

    How did they stay up?


  • #49
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    I'm sorry but I can't bring myself to debate with anyone who advocates violence. Grow up and come back when you take a more mature approach to things please.

    Coming from someone who sees flashing as a bit of harmless fun I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt. Kicking a sex offender in the act (and flashing is a sexual offence) in the balls is hardly "advocating violence".


  • #50
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    Candie wrote: »
    I assume this is directed at me.
    Funnily enough Ms Drama Queen, not everything is about you.

    My post was, surprisingly, directed at the person I quoted. In my post.


  • #51
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    Collie D wrote: »
    Coming from someone who sees flashing as a bit of harmless fun I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt. Kicking a sex offender in the act (and flashing is a sexual offence) in the balls is hardly "advocating violence".
    I'm sorry but you can't operate a society where it's okay to just go around booting people in the bollocks every time they commit a crime. Would you kick an old lady in the fanny if you caught her listening to a song on Youtube that wasn't covered by the Creative Commons license? Probably not because I suspect you are mad for double-standards.


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  • #52
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    I'm sorry but you can't operate a society where it's okay to just go around booting people in the bollocks every time they commit a crime. Would you kick an old lady in the fanny if you caught her listening to a song on Youtube that wasn't covered by the Creative Commons license? Probably not because I suspect you are mad for double-standards.

    Dude, you sound absolutely crackers. I am legitimately unsure if you're trolling.


  • #53
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    Can you clarify OP - do you think it is unreasonable or unnecessary for somebody to be upset and fearful when they have been flashed?


  • #54
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    I'm sorry but you can't operate a society where it's okay to just go around booting people in the bollocks every time they commit a crime. Would you kick an old lady in the fanny if you caught her listening to a song on Youtube that wasn't covered by the Creative Commons license? Probably not because I suspect you are mad for double-standards.


    Two completely different things and hardly double standards. By that logic I could say that seeing as you condone flashing you would also condone all other sexual offences such as paedophilia and rape. I would assume you don't but that's your concept of double standards, not mine


  • #55
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Red Hand wrote: »
    How did they stay up?

    I assume the same way that stockings do. Never really questioned it any further - much preferred keeping the details to the bare minimum!


  • #56
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    Collie D wrote: »
    Two completely different things and hardly double standards. By that logic I could say that seeing as you condone flashing you would also condone all other sexual offences such as paedophilia and rape. I would assume you don't but that's your concept of double standards, not mine

    That's nice, but since I do not and have not condoned flashing you'd look pretty stupid. Luckily you didn't say it and we're just dealing with hypotheticals!


  • #57
    miss_shadow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭miss_shadow


    When I was 8 me and my best friend were walking down a lane and walking toward us was a young man with his dingdong hanging out of his zip!


  • #58
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    miss_shadow wrote: »
    When I was 8 me and my best friend were walking down a lane and walking toward us was a young man with his dingdong hanging out of his zip!
    Oh you can't just finish your post there, I've got a semi


  • #59
    TheUsual
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Seems to be less common these days thankfully.

    Was a bigger problem before CCTV cameras were everywhere.
    A girlfriend of mine was flashed twice in a well known south Dublin park in daylight.

    I went up with her both times but he had gone. She said at the time would have left me if I had hit the guy but I definitely would have, still would now. Brave man he was terrorising young ladies on their own.


  • #60
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    Do people think this is acceptable then
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR30yYNMMvY


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  • #61
    Mammanabammana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Mammanabammana


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    Dude, you sound absolutely crackers. I am legitimately unsure if you're trolling.


    Really? I'm not even slightly unsure. I've never seen a more obvious troll in my life.


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