Six months in jail

Mountjoy Mugger · 14-12-2012 10:33AM #1

not for being a rapist, but for putting in wrong windows and not removing them.

Justice - Irish style.

swimming in a sea · 14-12-2012 10:34AM

that'll learn him, window people in Ireland have powerful friends

summerskin · 14-12-2012 10:35AM

No, he has ignored numerous court orders to remove the windows which he never got planning permission for. He's had three years to comply but refuses.

Micky Dolenz · 14-12-2012 10:36AM

Bet he never saw that coming.

Jayop · 14-12-2012 10:38AM

How that can end up in a Jail term is beyond me. Crazy TBF!

Duggy747 · 14-12-2012 10:38AM

On one side, it's unreal that this guy would get half a year for 2 windows while the other guy gets 4 and a half months for sexually assaulting a woman after he rugby tackled her.

On the other, he ignored planning permission and has been in dispute about them for 6 years, he probably would have known the eventual outcome but thought he could fight it.

CruelCoin · 14-12-2012 10:38AM

6 months is harsh.

But christ, illegally modifying a house you're ****ing gifted and then acting the maggot afterwards needed some type of punishment.

AudreyHepburn · 14-12-2012 10:39AM

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

not for being a rapist, but for putting in wrong windows and not removing them.

Justice - Irish style.

I love how skilled some people at taking things completely out of context and twisting stories to make them seem worse than they really are.

What this man is going to jail for is, as I think you know OP, Contempt of Court or refusing to remove the windows and install the correct ones as he was ordered to do.

His putting in the wrong windows is not the problem.

Please get your facts right.

14-12-2012 10:39AM

He broke planning regulations, was told multiple times over numerous years to comply, refused and was sent to jail because of it. I see no problem.

padd b1975 · 14-12-2012 10:41AM

So after serving his jail sentence, does he get to keep the windows??

KKkitty · 14-12-2012 10:41AM

Must be a pane in the bum (Sorry obligatory AH pun)

Gringo180 · 14-12-2012 10:42AM

Baffling just baffling. The justice system in this country just boils my blood at times.

CdeC · 14-12-2012 10:42AM

He should have taken them down they look terrible.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 14-12-2012 10:42AM

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

not for being a rapist, but for putting in wrong windows and not removing them.

Justice - Irish style.

And how much time would you normally get for mugging?

Mountjoy Mugger · 14-12-2012 10:43AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I love how skilled some people at taking things completely out of context and twisting stories to make them seem worse than they really are.

What this man is going to jail for is, as I think you know OP, Contempt of Court or refusing to remove the windows and install the correct ones as he was ordered to do.

His putting in the wrong windows is not the problem.

Please get your facts right.

/scratches head.

In any case, you're ignoring the point that he'll be serving approximately the same length of time incarcerated as a convicted rapist.

Mountjoy Mugger · 14-12-2012 10:43AM

Calliope Red Program wrote: »

And how much time would you normally get for mugging?

Bugger all. Rotating doors.

Jayop · 14-12-2012 10:44AM

Deleted User wrote: »

He broke planning regulations, was told multiple times over numerous years to comply, refused and was sent to jail because of it. I see no problem.

True he should be punished, but IMO with jails already overcrowded and with the huge cost to the tax payer in housing a criminal the prisons should be kept clear for more serious crimes.

I think crimes against the person are much more serious. OK, send the guy to jail for a few days if you want, but in a country where you can rape and get out in four months, six months for this is outrageous.

kneemos · 14-12-2012 10:44AM

padd b1975 wrote: »

So after serving his jail sentence, does he get to keep the windows??

It's like snakes and ladders,he's fallen down the snake and has to start all over again.

Death and Taxes · 14-12-2012 10:45AM

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

not for being a rapist, but for putting in wrong windows and not removing them.

Justice - Irish style.

The guy has playing the council for 6 years, he was brought to court 3 years ago, he was given loads of warnings, he got every opportunity to avoid jail, so I have zero sympathy with him.

CdeC · 14-12-2012 10:47AM

Jayop wrote: »

True he should be punished, but IMO with jails already overcrowded and with the huge cost to the tax payer in housing a criminal the prisons should be kept clear for more serious crimes.

I think crimes against the person are much more serious. OK, send the guy to jail for a few days if you want, but in a country where you can rape and get out in four months, six months for this is outrageous.

Yeah maybe 2 weeks might have been more appropriate,
just a slap on the wrist. 6 months is a bit harsh

snubbleste · 14-12-2012 10:47AM

Planning laws enforced in Ireland Shocker!!

Fair play to the judge.

Yakult · 14-12-2012 10:51AM

I'd like to dedicate this one to Mr O'Toole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yndfqN1VKhY

Kev_2012 · 14-12-2012 10:54AM

Jail is very harsh here. Why not simply financially cripple him based on his income until he does remove them?

SafeSurfer · 14-12-2012 10:57AM

I think this is hilarious. The council is responsible for a man being jailed for a small planning indiscretion in his home. Councils all over the country, zoned thousands of acres of unnecessary land, often in unsuitable places like flood plains, to feed their own greed for development levies. Many councils acted corruptly. Councils failed in their responsibilities to citizens to ensure pyrite was not used in buildings, to enforce fire regulations etc and in many cases they even failed to collect the development charges they levied, with about €350 million outstanding in Dublin alone.

Nobody in the councils have faced any jail time, loss of employment or even loss of pay for this negligence. But the council oversee the jailing of a man for installing dormer instead of velux windows.

Councils truly are the most useless part of state apparatus.

Jayop · 14-12-2012 10:58AM

Kev_2012 wrote: »

Jail is very harsh here. Why not simply financially cripple him based on his income until he does remove them?

It would have been cheaper to go in and JCB them and for the state to put it back to how it was than to jail him.

I know that's not an option, but just saying like.

swimming in a sea · 14-12-2012 10:59AM

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

not for being a rapist, but for putting in wrong windows and not removing them.

Justice - Irish style.

Double Glazing salesman must have royally fu*ked him over:mad:

Jayop · 14-12-2012 11:00AM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I think this is hilarious. The council is responsible for a man being jailed for a small planning indiscretion in his home. Councils all over the country, zoned thousands of acres of unnecessary land, often in unsuitable places like flood plains, to feed their own greed for development levies. Many councils acted corruptly. Councils failed in their responsibilities to citizens to ensure pyrite was not used in buildings, to enforce fire regulations etc and in many cases they even failed to collect the development charges they levied, with about €350 million outstanding in Dublin alone.

Nobody in the councils have faced any jail time, loss of employment or even loss of pay for this negligence. But the council oversee the jailing of a man for installing dormer instead of velux windows.

Councils truly are the most useless part of state apparatus.

I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments, but surely two wrongs don't make a right. They can't now turn a blind eye to every planning infringement just because of what happened in the past.

Still think the punishment should match the crime though.

gobnaitolunacy · 14-12-2012 11:01AM

Jail the small scale offender, easy way out as per usual.

testicle · 14-12-2012 11:03AM

Jayop wrote: »

How that can end up in a Jail term is beyond me. Crazy TBF!

I bet he'll take them out now though.

pickarooney · 14-12-2012 11:04AM

A depressed widower jailed for six months over Christmas... hope they put him on suicide watch at least. And what about the windows, is someone going to take them down now?

Columbia · 14-12-2012 11:07AM

Seems like he's been hung out to dry as a warning to others doing similar.

Hopefully it will be overturned quietly, still leaving the message with the public.

Six months in jail

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