Why are we not revolting???

matt-dublin · 13-12-2012 05:46PM #1

Looking at whats been going on recently with tax and price hikes all over the place, why are we as a country not doing anything.

Egypt, Syria etc all hate their government and are standing up against them. Ok somewhat of an extreeme example but still. Why are we so happy to sit here and just take all these tax hikes that the government are imposing on us.

Why isn't there ten or even a hundred thousand people marching outside the dail?

Realistically all these new taxes are going to force a lot of people who already resent the home they live in into more arrears and unrecoverable debt.

surely should we not be causing riots, forcing the goverment to back down over property, motor and other taxes????

4zn76tysfajdxp · 13-12-2012 05:46PM

Many girls have told me I'm revolting.

Where To · 13-12-2012 05:46PM

People tell me I'm revolting all the time.

I hate Frada

Lollipops23 · 13-12-2012 05:47PM

matt-dublin wrote: »

Egypt, Syria etc all hate their government and are standing up against them. Ok somewhat of an extreeme example but still. Why are we so happy to sit here and just take all these tax hikes that the government are imposing on us.

Their people are being killed.

Bad and all as this place is, we're not in those kind of dire straights.

LeinsterDub · 13-12-2012 05:48PM

Phase 1 Riot
Phase 2 ???
Phase 3 Profit

humberklog · 13-12-2012 05:49PM

Most people are too busy writing threads about it rather than actually joining in one of the very many protest that are going on.

Far, far too busy writing threads.

franktheplank · 13-12-2012 05:49PM

We've been divided and conquered, there's still enough groups of cronies being pampered and looked after to prevent a critical mass from occurring.

sfwcork · 13-12-2012 05:50PM

what have you done yourself? You want me to hold your hand now is it!

Deank · 13-12-2012 05:51PM

We're lovers not fighters

:pac:

MrFrisp · 13-12-2012 05:51PM

Because We are the Irish....

We sit back and take it up the ****ter..Everytime..

Enda and his girlfriends in europe know that....So that's why!!
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matt-dublin · 13-12-2012 05:51PM

sfwcork wrote: »

what have you done yourself? You want me to hold your hand now is it!

i started a thread on boards....

what did you do?????

:P

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-12-2012 05:53PM

Would it actually achieve anything other than cause damage to property and potential harm to human life?

super_furry · 13-12-2012 05:53PM

Some people aren't that bad off.

Celly Smunt · 13-12-2012 05:54PM

have you been outside? it's bloody freezing that's why

giant_midget · 13-12-2012 05:55PM

matt-dublin wrote: »

Looking at whats been going on recently with tax and price hikes all over the place, why are we as a country not doing anything.

Egypt, Syria etc all hate their government and are standing up against them. Ok somewhat of an extreeme example but still. Why are we so happy to sit here and just take all these tax hikes that the government are imposing on us.

Why isn't there ten or even a hundred thousand people marching outside the dail?

Realistically all these new taxes are going to force a lot of people who already resent the home they live in into more arrears and unrecoverable debt.

surely should we not be causing riots, forcing the goverment to back down over property, motor and other taxes????

Us Irish prefer to give out to each other and moan on internet forums about how bad things are/aren't in our lives. You would think with the amount of people out of work there would be regular marches at government buildings. People aren't really bothered, We just roll over and take the pounding. I really feel for people out of work it must be really bad! People espically the unemployed need to take a stance and demand FG invest in jobs, They are not bothered, Probably someting on sky tv or swanning around in Pj's is keeping them busy...

WindSock · 13-12-2012 05:55PM

Well in fairness, we are a horrendously ugly nation.
Thank god I'm adopted.

Sully · 13-12-2012 05:55PM

Because things are not anywhere near as bad as those countries you mentioned.
Because a lot of these tax increases and cuts were forewarned.
Because a lot of people understand that when your bankrupt, cuts for savings will need to be made.
Because there is, realistically, very little other choice despite what the opposition claim.

Remember it was Fianna Fail who got us into this mess as per tradition and its been FG/Labour who get us out of the mess traditionally.

Remember its a Sinn Fein government with similar policies being implemented in the North of Ireland and a party that can't seem to evade trouble when it comes to their expenses - north and south.

The options left? A reality check and a more understanding approach by those genuinely hurt and genuinely trying. There is no easy options available during a recession. But, there are areas that this government reneged upon that would have softened the blow considerably.

sfwcork · 13-12-2012 05:55PM

wrote:

matt-dublin

i started a thread on boards....

what did you do?????

I read ur thread on boards

God only knows how the french revolution started without a boards

matt-dublin · 13-12-2012 05:56PM

seems to work for the french and the greeks.

greek logic:
we took your money and cant afford to pay you back.... Yes we'll make cuts... ****Runs away lauging with suitcases of cash

second round:
OK we're sorry, we promis we'll pay you back time, can we have more money??... Yes we'll make more cuts.... ****Runs away lauging with more suitcases of cash

Third round:
We want out of the euro, oh and we're keeping your money!

F1ngers · 13-12-2012 05:56PM

matt-dublin wrote: »

Why are we not revolting???

It would cut into our drinking time - can't have that now, can we.

im invisible · 13-12-2012 05:57PM

joydivision · 13-12-2012 05:57PM

Every bleedin day .
Because we were around in the 80s .
Because if we boot the government out who will run things .
Because we have a right to a vote which we use .

Cee-Jay-Cee · 13-12-2012 05:57PM

If the weather was nice like in Syria, Egypt, and Greece then I think more people would be inclined to get out and protest but with our shit weather no one would be bothered to go out in the wind and cold and rain.

matt-dublin · 13-12-2012 05:57PM

sfwcork wrote: »

I read ur thread on boards

God only knows how the french revolution started without a boards

stalker.....

dj jarvis · 13-12-2012 05:59PM

matt-dublin wrote: »

Looking at whats been going on recently with tax and price hikes all over the place, why are we as a country not doing anything.

Egypt, Syria etc all hate their government and are standing up against them. Ok somewhat of an extreeme example but still. Why are we so happy to sit here and just take all these tax hikes that the government are imposing on us.

Why isn't there ten or even a hundred thousand people marching outside the dail?

Realistically all these new taxes are going to force a lot of people who already resent the home they live in into more arrears and unrecoverable debt.

surely should we not be causing riots, forcing the goverment to back down over property, motor and other taxes????

for the millionth time this month - what would burning our OWN FECKIN PROPERTY do us ???
how would that solve anything , it would make matters worse

the riot thing is doing the Greeks a fat lot of good
want to protest , then do it passively

and knowing our right wing government , that would be the excuse they need to draft laws that would stifle ALL comment and actions deemed against the state

really , can people please stop posting " lets have a riot " - its retarded

and in fairness - the government were elected by the people, by a huge majority to govern - dont like the actions they take? dont vote for them the next time , and make sure those that did , dont do it again

and never forget , this is a free country , you can come and go - feel free to leave at ANYTIME if the living conditions ar not to your liking

riot - FFS - something original please

ninebeanrows · 13-12-2012 06:00PM

Most people aren't that bad off. We still have 80%+ employment. Most people still earn fair wages albeit they have to take some flak.

So you're left with the youth and the people who got stung by the property crash.

Most people who got stung by the property crash are people with children who have solid careers and work their butts off to pay their bills and get on with life. No time to riot.

You have the youth who are getting virtually free education then maybe having to trek abroad for a few years.

In reality who is suffering? Most people.

But who is suffering so bad that they struggle by day to day?

Probably about 10-20%.

Would the country support a revolution by this 20% ? No.

gobnaitolunacy · 13-12-2012 06:01PM

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Phase 1 Riot
Phase 2 Looting
Phase 3 Profit

FYP

Ush1 · 13-12-2012 06:02PM

I thought we were with Christy Moore as our underground lizard king to start the uprising?

DoesNotCompute · 13-12-2012 06:03PM

Why are we not revolting???

Cos we really don't have it that bad. Unlike the likes of Syria, Egypt, etc, citizens of this country are not dealing with despotic rulers who send government forces in to people's houses in the dead of night, kidnap, murder and torture them.

So you're down maybe €20 a week after the budget? Boo-hoo.

vapor trails · 13-12-2012 06:03PM

The best place to ask this question would be outside the Permanent TSB ATM queue's in Blanchardstown Centre. The 3 machines have been running twenty people deep for the last 3 weeks. Not joking they actually run out of cash by lunch time.

bluecode · 13-12-2012 06:06PM

Irish people don't revolt. They emigrate. This country would be heaving with discontented people if there was nowhere to go. It's a safety valve.

Also I do think that quite often it's the best and brightest that emigrate leaving only the rest of us sheeplike sitting ready to be fleeced. I include myself among the sheeple before anyone accuses me of bias. I never emigrated. But for the first time in my life. I'm looking at the idea.

If the boom gave us anything. It was to show us what life is like in other countries. Many of us for the first time ever got to live a lifstyle that is taken for granted in many other European countries and I'm not just talking about money. It didn't last and will never come back. So if you want to live the good life. Find it abroad.

But really someone should burn down Leinster house. It won't happen because the only people organised enough to do it are being protected by the Croke Park agreement. If the public service were being hit to the same extent as they are in other countries. They would out on the streets every night. The politicians know this and are terrified of taking them on.

Until that nettle is grasped there'll be little trouble.

Why are we not revolting???

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