Water fluoridation should be scrapped!

The thing about fluoridation is that ingesting does nothing for your teeth. It's effective at hardening enamel when used topically on teeth. Why else don't they tell you to swallow toothpaste once you're done? (They do specifically tell you to contact poison control if you swallow toothpaste, but that may or may not be down to the levels of fluoride in it, I don't know.)

So, this initiative to save our teeth is only going to benefit people who don't already use a fluoridated toothpaste. That must be a small percentage of the population. So, think of the money spent annually putting a medicine into drinking water, into old pipes that leak a massive % of that water into the environment, in order to improve the dental condition of a tiny % of the population. That's wasteful, if nothing else. And I know this sounds alarmist, but it's also effectively forced medication of everyone else who drinks tap-water in the country.

Tooth-paste vouchers for at-risk families would be just one off-the-top-of-my-head idea that would get all the benefits of the current wasteful setup.

The whole idea is just wrong for lots of valid reasons, and you don't need your tinfoil hat to see that.

jh79 wrote: »

But there are no proven negative effects so why be so militantly agaisnt it?

I'm not going down the negative health-effects route, I'm just pointing out that the fluoridation scheme's very reason for being is massively questionable, and I think everyone can agree that saving money is in the country's best interests right now; I think you can also argue that forced medication of a population is unethical in and of itself, regardless of proven negative effects.

beans wrote: »

The thing about fluoridation is that ingesting does nothing for your teeth. It's effective at hardening enamel when used topically on teeth. Why else don't they tell you to swallow toothpaste once you're done? (They do specifically tell you to contact poison control if you swallow toothpaste, but that may or may not be down to the levels of fluoride in it, I don't know.)

So, this initiative to save our teeth is only going to benefit people who don't already use a fluoridated toothpaste. That must be a small percentage of the population. So, think of the money spent annually putting a medicine into drinking water, into old pipes that leak a massive % of that water into the environment, in order to improve the dental condition of a tiny % of the population. That's wasteful, if nothing else. And I know this sounds alarmist, but it's also effectively forced medication of everyone else who drinks tap-water in the country.

Tooth-paste vouchers for at-risk families would be just one off-the-top-of-my-head idea that would get all the benefits of the current wasteful setup.

The whole idea is just wrong for lots of valid reasons, and you don't need your tinfoil hat to see that.

This post is just wrong for a lot of valid reasons, and you just need to do some actual research to see that.


Ingesting it does nothing for your teeth?

Fluoride can strengthen teeth in two ways — from the outside or the inside.

Fluoride also strengthens teeth from within. Swallowed fluoride enters the bloodstream and becomes part of the permanent teeth as they develop. This is called systemic fluoride. The teeth become stronger, so it is harder for acids to destroy the enamel.

It is only going to benefit people who don't already use a fluoridated toothpaste?

The work group recommends that all persons drink water with an optimal fluoride concentration and brush their teeth twice daily with fluoride toothpaste.

It is effectively forced medication?

Again, the vast majority of water on Earth already contains fluoride. Sometimes at dangerously high levels.

Swallowed fluoride enters the bloodstream and becomes part of the permanent teeth as they develop

The CDC report was interesting, as it seemed to contradict what I had previously read re: swallowing fluoride. Still, you're only talking about kids up to the age of permanent teeth. After that, levels of fluoride in saliva having a topical affect during the day seem to be the main positive.

I do stand by my comments about wastefulness, and yes forced medication too. The target group to whom this is most beneficial is still small comparatively.

Thanks for pointing me to that report, and the error about swallowed fluoride - I'll not be bringing that one up again

I dont see Dave why it should be administered AT ALL!!!!!

Its a poision (At least SODIUM FLOURIDE IS) and meant to control people! (Amoung other things)

Dude111 wrote: »

I dont see Dave why it should be administered AT ALL!!!!!

Its a poision (At least SODIUM FLOURIDE IS) and meant to control people! (Amoung other things)

:eek: You know something we don't? What else does it control? I'm certain the Reptoids must be resistant as water inside the hollow earth has a terribly high level of fluoride.

Did anyone else's primary school have a fluoride rinse, where you were made wash this manky stuff round your mouth by the county dental nurse. Probably in the areas where there is no piped water supply