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PseudoFamous · 05-12-2012 07:16PM

Aoifey! wrote: »

No more 4 euro Tesco wine

sure that stuff will make you blind, it's vinegar

Palytoxin · 05-12-2012 07:17PM

PseudoFamous wrote: »

sure that stuff will make you blind, it's vinegar

It's more paint-stripper than vinegar

jefreywithonef · 05-12-2012 07:23PM

Stop yer wineing.

Cakes. · 05-12-2012 11:20PM

Just to refer to Wnolans point on the lack of job stimulus, Enterprise Ireland are being given €139m to support indigenous industry, which is a major contributor to our economy.

This is going to supporting young farmers. The agricultural sector adds €24 billion to the economy, employs 7.7% of people and including the agri-food sector makes up 7% of the GDP. It also accounts for 10% of our exports.

Also, the Venture Capital Fund of €175m over 10 years will prove beneficial in the long term, as will the €35 retro fitting seed capital.

The rise in college fees is a disgrace though! As are the cuts in home help!

They have made an effort to reduce the deficits and making cuts and raising taxes is the only way to do this at the minute, it's the choosing where the cuts come from and what taxes are raised is the hard bit!

Namlub · 06-12-2012 02:18AM

This trend for band names without vowels is getting ridiculous

Jhcx · 06-12-2012 02:39AM

My head is rattled with a page on politics .

How u mean no vowels never noticed

flyswatter · 06-12-2012 08:49AM

Namlub wrote: »

This trend for band names without vowels is getting ridiculous

What bands in particular?

wnolan1992 · 06-12-2012 10:52AM

Cakes. wrote: »

Just to refer to Wnolans point on the lack of job stimulus, Enterprise Ireland are being given €139m to support indigenous industry, which is a major contributor to our economy.

This is going to supporting young farmers. The agricultural sector adds €24 billion to the economy, employs 7.7% of people and including the agri-food sector makes up 7% of the GDP. It also accounts for 10% of our exports.

Also, the Venture Capital Fund of €175m over 10 years will prove beneficial in the long term, as will the €35 retro fitting seed capital.

The rise in college fees is a disgrace though! As are the cuts in home help!

They have made an effort to reduce the deficits and making cuts and raising taxes is the only way to do this at the minute, it's the choosing where the cuts come from and what taxes are raised is the hard bit!

Yeah.... I guess you're right... but it just feels like those are drops in an ocean compared to all the cuts.

I think what's pissing me off most is that on the one hand the ordinary people of the country are dealing with all this **** that just gets piled on every year, and on the other hand Croke Park has been extended for another year!

How does that make ANY sense?

Croke Park essentially means people who aren't doing their jobs correctly can't be sacked. And not only that, they're being paid ****ing increments on their pay! INCREMENTS. And I don't want this to be seen as public sector bashing, because we all know (or at least we should) that the majority of front line staff in the public sector are bloody fantastic people, but it's these ***** on 100k a year that piss me off.

Not to mention that they're still negotiating to try and avoid paying 3.1 billion to Anglo in March. Negotiating? **** off. Just tell them "Eh, no. We're keeping this money and using it to try and save the country as opposed to paying people who essentially played the stock market and lost. Get over it."

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Cian92 · 06-12-2012 12:04PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Yeah.... I guess you're right... but it just feels like those are drops in an ocean compared to all the cuts.

I was actually generally impressed with the budget and I would in no way be a supporter of Fine Gael.

Yeah and I have had problems with the rise in college fees and the cut in home help.

However the majority of cuts were fair. Like a €10 cut in child benefit isn't signicant. Petrol and Diesel were left alone. The price rises inn alcohol were justified in all fairness and will hit both off licences and pubs and weren't implemented in a way that would give pubs a competitive advantage.

The tax rebate on diesel for hauliers companies can only be welcomed it will not only aid the transport industry but it should also help keep the cost of goods down or at least the same for the rest of us.

Maybe the property tax would have been better off if it was a site value tax but sure at least it is a step in the right direction.

The increase in PRSI is also pretty fair,t hose of us on minimum wage pay hardly any tax and I wouldn't have minded if it had been brought also been used on those earning less as we currently contribute hardly anything in tax and are most likely to claim welfare or a state pension etc.

Unfortunately the way it is implemented now if you earn €349 a week you avoid any PRSI bu if you earn €353 you will pay about €14 in PRSI and come out with less than those earning the €349. In other words it will severely reduce the incentive to do overtime.

The pensioners were targeted too, but in a fair manner. However I would question is the €1.5 prescription medicine charge too high, maybe if it was only €1.

An increase in car tax isn't a huge problem either. They should have gotten rid of the free travel pass for everyone except the disabled though.

Some sort of text tax could also have been implemented maybe..

wnolan1992 · 06-12-2012 12:22PM

Cian92 wrote: »

Like a €10 cut in child benefit isn't signicant.

I'm sorry, but that's just bull****. That cut in particular is going to hit lower income families way worse than higher earners. Figures thrown around yesterday that a family with three children will lose 30euro. Kind of flies in the face a bit when you consider the survey done earlier this year that showed a high percentage of people had less than 100e to spare each week.

The fact is, 10e isn't significant unless you're already on the line, which a lot of people are unfortunately.

If they'd copped themselves on and went about implemented a means test that would outright take child benefit off of those who don't need it (families earning over 150k a year still get the same CB as those earning 20k a year) instead of this nonsense then I'd be the first to praise the government.

Cian92 · 06-12-2012 12:57PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

The fact is, 10e isn't significant unless you're already on the line, which a lot of people are unfortunately.

Child benefit had to be cut. Means testing would have been alot more appropriate however it would be extremely costly. The cost would outweigh the savings. All in all €10 is not much at all, when you consider that the main welfare rates such as the dole and single parents allowance was left untouched. People should realise that children are going to be expensive when they make the decision to have children, yes the state should help them add they will continue to do so.

The cuts had to come from somewhere and child benefit was probably the one least likely to cause significant hurt to people. They left the fuel allowance intact.

Of course austerity isn't going to be popular but this budget has probably been one of the better ones so far. It has hasn't exactly caused huge harm to anyone.

Jhcx · 06-12-2012 08:43PM

Can't decide what phone to buy. It's down to the iPhone5 or the Galaxy 3 but I got a text today telling me the Galaxy 4 is on its way so I don't know weather to hood out for that or what. Any opinions guys to help narrow it?

Like I wouldn't mind the iPhone because it would be a change plus I like the idea of isms would help keep in contact with the partner, and it does look gorgeous

The SG3 is ultra thin though. Much bigger. Speed is not a major factor. Or not that I could have ever cared about.

Jacks Smirking Revenge · 06-12-2012 09:29PM

This is completely off topic but, hi I'm new here *cowers in fear of getting pummeled*

Also someone mentioned band names with no vowels, please mention one, I can't think of any....

Jhcx · 06-12-2012 09:40PM

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote: »

This is completely off topic but, hi I'm new here *cowers in fear of getting pummeled*

Also someone mentioned band names with no vowels, please mention one, I can't think of any....

There is no topic. Only every couple of pages when an intense topic arrives. Yesterday was political, before that was essentials and condoms. For an off topic thread there's a lot of topics hidden within it. Also wilkommen enjoy ur stay.

Lawliet · 06-12-2012 10:19PM

Really horrible accident outside Trinity today. I knew there was bad since they shut down several streets, but it's even worse than I thought; they're saying the guy who got killed was decapitated by a bus he was pushed in front of. So horrible, I really feel for the driver and anyone in the area

Pigwidgeon · 06-12-2012 10:26PM

Heard about that too. The independent are saying he was pushed, rte etc. are saying he fell after he was hit. An absolutely awful way to go. Fair play to the bus driver for controlling the bus, and not crashing with the shock. So awful.

Namlub · 07-12-2012 12:47AM

Yeah the bus was still there and there were Guards and forensic people everywhere when I was walking out of the arts block, such a horrible atmosphere and it must have been awful for the bus driver...

PseudoFamous · 07-12-2012 02:38AM

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote: »

This is completely off topic but, hi I'm new here *cowers in fear of getting pummeled*

Also someone mentioned band names with no vowels, please mention one, I can't think of any....

MSTRKRFT, Chk chk chk (!!!), lynryd skynryd, nsync, XTC, MGMT, Styx, McFly, b52s, M83, DMX

Namlub · 07-12-2012 03:20AM

...SBTRKT (genuinely had no idea how to say this for months)

wnolan1992 · 07-12-2012 08:55AM

PseudoFamous wrote: »

MSTRKRFT, Chk chk chk (!!!), lynryd skynryd, nsync, XTC, MGMT, Styx, McFly, b52s, M83, DMX

Y is a vowel in those. #pedant

Jhcx · 07-12-2012 09:38AM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Y is a vowel in those. #pedant

Since when did the vowels change since I left school?

wnolan1992 · 07-12-2012 09:50AM

Jhcx wrote: »

Since when did the vowels change since I left school?

Y has always been a vowel in words such as "my", "why", "cry", "hymn", "gym", etc.

The letter Y can be regarded as both a vowel and a consonant. In terms of sound, a vowel is 'a speech sound which is produced by comparatively open configuration of the vocal tract, with vibration of the vocal cords but without audible friction...', while a consonant is 'a basic speech sound in which the breath is at least partly obstructed'. The letter Y can be used to represent different sounds in different words, and can therefore fit either definition. In myth or hymn it's clearly a vowel, and also in words such as my, where it stands for a diphthong (a combination of two vowel sounds). On the other hand, in a word like beyond there is an obstacle to the breath which can be heard between two vowels, and the same sound begins words like young and yes. (This consonant sound, like that of the letter W, is sometimes called a 'semivowel' because it is made in a similar way to a vowel, but functions in contrast to vowels when used in words.) Whether the letter Y is a vowel or a consonant is therefore rather an arbitrary decision.

SOURCE

Jhcx · 07-12-2012 11:51AM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Y has always been a vowel in words such as "my", "why", "cry", "hymn", "gym", etc.

SOURCE

Now thi.gs like that they should be teaching that in school.

wnolan1992 · 07-12-2012 11:54AM

Jhcx wrote: »

Now thi.gs like that they should be teaching that in school.

I genuinely learned that from The Simpsons ages ago.

Homer asks Lisa if he can help with her homework and she replies that she needs to find five words where Y is the vowel. Much Googling followed. :pac:

PseudoFamous · 07-12-2012 04:51PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Y has always been a vowel in words such as "my", "why", "cry", "hymn", "gym", etc.

yet what you quoted says

Whether the letter Y is a vowel or a consonant is therefore rather an arbitrary decision.

And I arbitrarily decide it to be a consonant. Go home.

Davidius · 07-12-2012 05:16PM

The Ancient Egyptians didn't write their vowels and they're all dead so take from that what you will.

Jhcx · 07-12-2012 08:11PM

Wish I could get my English accent back.

jefreywithonef · 07-12-2012 09:14PM

Jhcx wrote: »

Wish I could get my English accent back.

Cor blimey mate! You wanna do old blighty proud again? You just keep watching that Danny Dyer bloke on the telly and bob's your uncle! You'll be havin proper chin-wags in no time bruv. Easy peasy innit.

Jhcx · 07-12-2012 10:39PM

jefreywithonef wrote: »

Cor blimey mate! You wanna do old blighty proud again? You just keep watching that Danny Dyer bloke on the telly and bob's your uncle! You'll be havin proper chin-wags in no time bruv. Easy peasy innit.

Rofl. Ha ha. Am maybe an accent somewhere in the 21st century lol. Been told chicks in America dig English lads.

tr0llface · 07-12-2012 10:51PM

Jhcx wrote: »

Rofl. Ha ha. Am maybe an accent somewhere in the 21st century lol. Been told chicks in America dig English lads.

BRAP YO BLUDRINS
Haha did ya hear about Tom? Wot a nobhead.
It was well reem innit, he didn't done his homework cuz you didn't give it at him! he wants to stab u wasteman, peak times for u innit wot a boomting, blud.
Check out mah burberry innit, well jel you are!

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