Wii U Pre-Launch Discussion

Star Lord · 04-12-2012 11:13AM

readyletsgo wrote: »

I shouldn't have fapped while in HMV

That's a good rule to live by.

readyletsgo · 04-12-2012 11:17AM

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

That's a good rule to live by.

04-12-2012 12:02PM

anyone scam amazon saying theres no nintendoland even tho you did

lol

CastorTroy · 04-12-2012 02:03PM

Apparently from Spring on, the Wii U day one update will come preloaded.

Just hope their future updates don't do the whole thing again, PS3 style.

wampyrus77 · 04-12-2012 02:47PM

magnumbud wrote: »

it was never announced only rumored to be one. it hasn't yet been announced it actually will be coming to the WiiU but Reggie and some top guy in rockstar hinted at it a couple of weeks ago. if it is i would be surprised if it was coming out in may like everyone else cause that only leaves 5-6 months for a port to be done(assuming they have started) and rockstar are perfectionist if it is any way lesser than the other versions they will delay it for another bit. they have only said so far that they would consider putting it on the WiiU.

GTA V Wii U and PC releases next spring 2013

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/gta-v-wii-u-and-pc-releases-under-consideration

CastorTroy · 04-12-2012 02:59PM

Nope. GTA V in Spring on PS3 and 360 with PC and Wii U still being considered

magnumbud · 04-12-2012 03:27PM

wampyrus77 wrote: »

GTA V Wii U and PC releases next spring 2013

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/gta-v-wii-u-and-pc-releases-under-consideration

did you actually read the story? it says like i said it is being considered. it in no way says it is happening just that they might do it.

DARK-KNIGHT · 04-12-2012 05:32PM

I would imagine if rockstar were to bring gta v to wii u the team would already be working on this.

Are they trying to spark another bidding war between ms and Sony lol

InTheTrees · 04-12-2012 05:58PM

magnumbud wrote: »

did you actually read the story? it says like i said it is being considered. it in no way says it is happening just that they might do it.

Ultimately Nintendo decides what games get published for their systems and it can be an elaborate and time consuming process to get approved after doing a lot of (expensive) work.

So given that I cant imagine Nintendo approving such an "Adult" game for its family friendly system, I can well imagine RockStar being a little hesitant about porting a version to Wii.

CastorTroy · 04-12-2012 06:01PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Ultimately Nintendo decides what games get published for their systems and it can be an elaborate and time consuming process to get approved after doing a lot of (expensive) work.

So given that I cant imagine Nintendo approving such an "Adult" game for its family friendly system, I can well imagine RockStar being a little hesitant about porting a version to Wii.

The same kind of family system like the DS which got GTA Chinatown Wars as an exclusive(for a while anyway)? And Reggie even said they want it on Wii U.

Not forgetting Ninja Gaiden on Wii U is ultra violent and MadWorld on wii was supposedly one of the most violent games ever.

Banjo · 04-12-2012 06:08PM

Family Friendly? WiiU? About a third of the launch titles were rated 18s (or 16s , at least!). It looks like right out of the gate they're recognizing that families are made up not just of the cradle and the grave ends of the spectrum but also of people in between. You know, the ones who are old enough to take responsibility for their own decisions and who want to play games...

DARK-KNIGHT · 04-12-2012 06:15PM

I do think we will see gta v next year.

BUT if we don't get it close to release for Xbox and ps3 I hope they don't stick a 60 euro price tag on it considering Arkham city game of the year edition was on zavvi or play this week for 18 or 19 and the standard version wii u is 60.. Or very close to it...

wtlltw · 04-12-2012 06:17PM

Banjo wrote: »

Family Friendly? WiiU? About a third of the launch titles were rated 18s (or 16s , at least!).

Exactly, this is the first Nintendo release where I'm struggling to buy games rated less than 18. I will pick up NSMBU at some point

04-12-2012 06:33PM

I've got a WII U on pre order but I'm unsure if I want one now. I just realised that the two games I really want (Mario and Sonic) is only one game because Sonic is available on the 360.

I'm only interested in Nintendo games that aren't available on other consoles otherwise with my xbox, I don't see the point in picking one up.

Kinski · 04-12-2012 06:49PM

The reason every Nintendo console is branded "family-friendly" is because Nintendo won't make mature-rated games themselves. As long as that's the case, their products will always be perceived as family-orientated - or even child-orientated - no matter that third-parties offer up the occasional MadWorld or Chinatown Wars. IMO, it actually constitutes something of an image problem for them: like it or not, many gamers want games which explore mature themes, whether that's over-the-top blood-and-guts and girls with big breasts in arse-less outfits or more sophisticated stuff like LA Noire and Catherine. There's a really simple solution, but Nintendo won't take it, 'cause they want the family-friendly tag.

CastorTroy · 04-12-2012 07:08PM

How family friendly is implying that Princess Peach is the mother of Bowser Jr.? that's all levels of wrong.

wampyrus77 · 04-12-2012 08:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've got a WII U on pre order but I'm unsure if I want one now. I just realised that the two games I really want (Mario and Sonic) is only one game because Sonic is available on the 360.

I'm only interested in Nintendo games that aren't available on other consoles otherwise with my xbox, I don't see the point in picking one up.

sonic just came out on wii u last friday

wampyrus77 · 04-12-2012 10:06PM

a chance to win wii u

https://apps.facebook.com/sweepstakeshq/contests/305374

wampyrus77 · 04-12-2012 11:06PM

up coming new Super Smash Bros. (Wii U/3DS) since 2 and it has been confirmed that the titles will have some form of connectivity across both platforms. since 2 versions that u need both games to finish them 100 %, u need both 3ds version and wii u version to transfer data back and fort, vice verse to complete both games 100 %

Corholio · 05-12-2012 01:21AM

Kinski wrote: »

The reason every Nintendo console is branded "family-friendly" is because Nintendo won't make mature-rated games themselves. As long as that's the case, their products will always be perceived as family-orientated - or even child-orientated - no matter that third-parties offer up the occasional MadWorld or Chinatown Wars. IMO, it actually constitutes something of an image problem for them: like it or not, many gamers want games which explore mature themes, whether that's over-the-top blood-and-guts and girls with big breasts in arse-less outfits or more sophisticated stuff like LA Noire and Catherine. There's a really simple solution, but Nintendo won't take it, 'cause they want the family-friendly tag.

That, or because they are really good at doing non-very mature games? Many gamers also want a game that's just very good. Nintendo just making mature games isn't as simple at all really, there's a history there that doesn't point in that direction with the most successful franchises in video game history. For Nintendo to go and make mature games like you say, there's a lot more to think about than just trying to shake off the family friendly tag.

wampyrus77 · 05-12-2012 01:41AM

Corholio wrote: »

That, or because they are really good at doing non-very mature games? Many gamers also want a game that's just very good. Nintendo just making mature games isn't as simple at all really, there's a history there that doesn't point in that direction with the most successful franchises in video game history. For Nintendo to go and make mature games like you say, there's a lot more to think about than just trying to shake off the family friendly tag.

they are grow up games on the wii u now Zombiu, call of duty black ops 2, batman arkham city armored edition, mass effect 3, tekken tag tournament 2, Darksiders II, aliens colonial marines and James Bond: 007 Legends

magnumbud · 05-12-2012 09:26AM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Ultimately Nintendo decides what games get published for their systems and it can be an elaborate and time consuming process to get approved after doing a lot of (expensive) work.

So given that I cant imagine Nintendo approving such an "Adult" game for its family friendly system, I can well imagine RockStar being a little hesitant about porting a version to Wii.

as has been said nintendo already said they want it on the console. also dont forget Rockstar put both Bully and Manhunt 2(may not be a great game but one of the biggest gore fest in gaming) on to the Wii so its not like nintendo are going to turn around and say no to the best product Rockstar make.
nintendo have the kiddy friendly image because most of their mascots are very child like not because they dont let mature games onto the console.

I have owned nintendo consoles all my life from nes all the way up to now the WiiU and since the early days of the snes when nintendo did censor Mortal Kombat they have taken a back seat on doing this because it affected losing out in sales to sega. i can think of loads of mature games on each console from then on that completely disagrees with the point nintendo dont let people. the reason the original gta did not end up on the N64(it was announced but cancelled) was because the game cart could not hold the information that a cd could and so rockstar would have had to make major cuts to the game and they did not want to do that at the time so focused on GTA 2. nintendo fell out with rockstar over this and thats why nothing of rockstars appeared on the Gamecube(also sony had an exclusivity deal which lasted until a year after the release of San Andreas on the PS2).nintendo and rockstar only patched stuff up when the wii came out and released the two games i mentioned above but the reason GTA4, red dead redemption and L.A. Noire did not appear on the wii must be fairly obvious but in case its not that it just could not run these games.

Rockstar are gonna release there games on every system that they can more than make up for the cost of development time. if nintendo make it clear that they are aiming to get "Mature" gamers onto the WiiU then rockstar will do a port. its clear nintendo atleast for now are aiming for that as has been said a chunck of the launch titles are not games for kids and the fact that they are doing a ZombiU bundle seems like a bundle to get mature gamers to me. They could just have easily just done a mario bundle as the top bundle but they choose to go with a mature title which indicates to me that nintendo are try to recapture the core gamers they lost in the wii era

peteeeed · 05-12-2012 09:50AM

got my wii u yesterday , bit disappointed there is no optical out port for audio

PickledLime · 05-12-2012 10:04AM

magnumbud wrote: »

Rockstar are gonna release there games on every system that they can more than make up for the cost of development time...

And the Wii U will have a fraction of the install base of the 360 and PS3, even by the time the game comes out. Will it be financially worth R*'s time porting to the Wii U?

magnumbud wrote: »

its clear nintendo atleast for now are aiming for that as has been said a chunck of the launch titles are not games for kids and the fact that they are doing a ZombiU bundle seems like a bundle to get mature gamers to me. They could just have easily just done a mario bundle as the top bundle but they choose to go with a mature title which indicates to me that nintendo are try to recapture the core gamers they lost in the wii era

The reason why Nintendo don't bundle Mario with the Wii U is the game is a licence to print money. As it is, a lot of folk (people i know, reading online etc.) are picking up NSMBU as an extra. If it came in the box with the console, no need for other games.

magnumbud · 05-12-2012 10:27AM

PickledLime wrote: »

And the Wii U will have a fraction of the install base of the 360 and PS3, even by the time the game comes out. Will it be financially worth R*'s time porting to the Wii U?

obviously it wont have a fraction of the install base by the time it launches FFS there are around 60 million of both world wide but that does not mean it wouldn't make them money. it doesnt have to make them 10s of millions out of the blocks. my point was that if it could make them money and could do it at a cost far less than the amount of sales they could get from a wiiU version then why not? the more places the game is available on the more overall money they will make. its converting the code to run on the wiiU coming up with some uses and implementing some uses of the gamepad. i would not be expecting it to come out in may with the other two consoles(unless they are already working on it) maybe it will be a few months later. i mean why do you think games companys put games on mutliformats? what was the point of activision putting COD:BLOPS2 on it? what was the point of ubisoft putting AC3 on it? to increase the market that they have access to.

PickledLime wrote: »

The reason why Nintendo don't bundle Mario with the Wii U is the game is a licence to print money. As it is, a lot of folk (people i know, reading online etc.) are picking up NSMBU as an extra. If it came in the box with the console, no need for other games.

but they are still making money off the bundle even if NSMBU is in the bundle? it would still sell outside if people got the standard premium or the basic box. maybe i am reading too much into it with ZombiU but for me that seems to be the idea of doing it.

PickledLime · 05-12-2012 11:48AM

magnumbud wrote: »

obviously it wont have a fraction of the install base by the time it launches FFS there are around 60 million of both world wide but that does not mean it wouldn't make them money. it doesnt have to make them 10s of millions out of the blocks. my point was that if it could make them money and could do it at a cost far less than the amount of sales they could get from a wiiU version then why not? the more places the game is available on the more overall money they will make. its converting the code to run on the wiiU coming up with some uses and implementing some uses of the gamepad. i would not be expecting it to come out in may with the other two consoles(unless they are already working on it) maybe it will be a few months later. i mean why do you think games companys put games on mutliformats? what was the point of activision putting COD:BLOPS2 on it? what was the point of ubisoft putting AC3 on it? to increase the market that they have access to.

but they are still making money off the bundle even if NSMBU is in the bundle? it would still sell outside if people got the standard premium or the basic box. maybe i am reading too much into it with ZombiU but for me that seems to be the idea of doing it.

But porting GTAV to the Wii U, will it be worth their time and money? Bare in mind it'l be their first time out on the console and GTAV looks to be pretty damn ambitious.

Well of course they are still making money off the bundle if NSMBU is in it, but they'll make more if it's not in it by people buying one at the tills along side the console.

Star Lord · 05-12-2012 11:55AM

peteeeed wrote: »

got my wii u yesterday , bit disappointed there is no optical out port for audio

Could you do what I do with my other consoles? Component/HDMI to the TV, optical TV to Sound system

PickledLime wrote: »

But porting GTAV to the Wii U, will it be worth their time and money? Bare in mind it'l be their first time out on the console and GTAV looks to be pretty damn ambitious.

I don't see why not, as obviously it won't be available to just those that pick the console up on day 1, but any future buyers also. And each sale also increases the opportunities for add on sales like DLC

Deano7788 · 05-12-2012 11:58AM

PickledLime wrote: »

But porting GTAV to the Wii U, will it be worth their time and money? Bare in mind it'l be their first time out on the console and GTAV looks to be pretty damn ambitious.

Well of course they are still making money off the bundle if NSMBU is in it, but they'll make more if it's not in it by people buying one at the tills along side the console.

But the same can be said whenever a new console comes out. It's supposed to be very simple to port across to it so I don't see any reason why they won't.

magnumbud · 05-12-2012 12:34PM

right im just gonna put it this way. right if say it is being released on the wiiu and if by the the time it comes out that there are 2 million wiiu's sold world wide(id imagine it will be alot more but for arguments sake). say half of those wiiu owners bought the game at launch(as has been said just cause it doesnt sell at launch doesnt mean it wont keep chipping away at sales) say it sells at 60 quid so how much money will rockstar make if 1 million wiiu owners buy it? 60 million from sales is that really something that rockstar are going to turn down(i'm not saying they wont make the more money elsewhere) for the sake of having a small enough team whose job is merely to translate the code so that it works on the WiiU? as a coder i can tell you the man power it takes to translate the code is not going to be a big deal. 10 developers would more than be enough given say 6 months or so to do so. you are not coming up with much new code all you are actually doing is getting the existing code basic functionality to work in the new framework. all your paying is their wages its not like there is any other expense in converting it. they are bound to have, and want to own anyway, a few development kits for the wiiu as i can imagine they will want to do some game for it anyway at some stage.

Kinski · 05-12-2012 01:52PM

Corholio wrote: »

That, or because they are really good at doing non-very mature games? Many gamers also want a game that's just very good. Nintendo just making mature games isn't as simple at all really, there's a history there that doesn't point in that direction with the most successful franchises in video game history. For Nintendo to go and make mature games like you say, there's a lot more to think about than just trying to shake off the family friendly tag.

It's true they don't have any experience doing mature games, but that's because they've never tried. And I don't think it would be such a huge leap to go from making a franchise like Metroid Prime to making something like Mass Effect.

This ties into the debate about porting GTA. There's a lot more to releasing a game on another format than just the technical process of porting it across (the product still has to be physically-produced, distributed, and marketed). My bet is that Rockstar don't bother, because third-party titles haven't done well on Nintendo consoles in recent years.

Nintendo has tried to push them (with little success) on the 3DS, and seem to be following a similar strategy with the WiiU. Securing cult hits like Bayonetta is all well and good, but the key with Nintendo platforms is first-party titles. Produce a killer-app mature title themselves, and the company may win a lot of doubters over to the U.

I actually am quite optimistic that Monolith will produce something special for the console, but if Nintendo want a big hit, hopefully they'll lean more in the direction of a Western-style RPG rather than the increasingly-marginalised genre of Japanese RPGs.

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