15% off-sales alcohol tax proposed

ToddyDoody · 01-12-2012 05:35PM

the home brews might be the only way to go then, leaving all business interested high and dry

suicide_circus · 01-12-2012 05:44PM

Publicans, Landlords, Estate Agents.

The lobbiests for these three groups are a blight on our society and must be mercilessly crushed at all costs.

Publicans think that owning a pub should be a licence to print money. They feel they should be somehow exempt from the same market forces that influence all businesses. They want to be shielded from reality via punitive protectionist policies. In order that their unviable outdated businesses should unnaturally survve, the working man should be further taxed. It's wrong wrong wrong. These odious self serving hypocrites should be told to **** the **** off.

weisses · 01-12-2012 06:48PM

http://www.allebieraanbiedingen.nl/aanbieding-heineken/

What's the f****n problem with the so called cheap alcohol in this country ???

ITS NOT CHEAP !!!!!

\rant over

xOxSinéadxOx · 01-12-2012 06:55PM

If they did this it would just create a black economy for alcohol. dopes.

goose2005 · 01-12-2012 06:56PM

OurLadyofKnock wrote: »

I love how the vitners go on about offies and alcohol abuse. Like they care about their customers...

Not to mention that if off-licence booze becomes more expensive, alcoholics will go to the pub even less because they won't be able to afford it.

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

The most controlled environment that is, until the pub closes and unleashes hordes of drunks onto the streets, then it's the Gardaí's and tax-payers problem.

Or if someone orders ten shots in a glass and dies, and the barman can wash his hands of it.

Sofiztikated · 01-12-2012 07:01PM

goose2005 wrote: »

Not to mention that if off-licence booze becomes more expensive, alcoholics will go to the pub even less because they won't be able to afford it.

Or if someone orders ten shots in a glass and dies, and the barman can wash his hands of it.

Now it's been a while since I was F&B, but I used to be sure that you couldn't have more than 3 measures in one glass. Isn't that why you can't serve snakebite? Cider/Beer/Vodka?

Shryke · 01-12-2012 07:02PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

The only reason I still bother living is because I can get cheap cigarettes and alcohol which keep me happy. Why must they always tax the things I'm most fond of?

Edit: Don't really mind them hiking up the price of beer but they bloody better leave the price of my beloved Vodka alone!!

Aren't you about 19?

NegativeCreep · 01-12-2012 07:03PM

Shryke wrote: »

Aren't you about 19?

..And?

meoklmrk91 · 01-12-2012 07:06PM

I don't even really drink and I'm pissed off over this. Bunch of arseholes!

01-12-2012 07:34PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Now it's been a while since I was F&B, but I used to be sure that you couldn't have more than 3 measures in one glass. Isn't that why you can't serve snakebite? Cider/Beer/Vodka?

It's nonsense really though, one club I used to be in a lot wouldn't serve treble vodkas etc, so I would just order a double and a single and pour the single into the double in front of them and nothing would be said.

cometogether · 01-12-2012 07:42PM

goose2005 wrote: »

Or if someone orders ten shots in a glass and dies, and the barman can wash his hands of it.

To be honest I don't think the barman could have been blamed in that situation. He didn't know how much your man had drank before he came to his bar. He didn't know your man would neck the drink in one. He didn't know your man's friends wouldn't have the sense to put him in the recovery position. At the end of the day, he's a barman not a babysitter. Madness that it ever went to court.

cometogether · 01-12-2012 07:42PM

And as for barmen being concerned about the health of drinkers? Pull the other one

mikemac1 · 02-12-2012 12:01PM

More profit on a bottle of coke then a pint of stout

The real rip off is on the minerals and the mixers

Price of a rock shandy would drive a man to drink! :mad:

Coca Cola Ireland had a promotion a few years back if you bought three drinks the publican gave you a free mineral. Designated driver campaign.
Huge publicity.
It's long gone now, seemed clever and a good idea

Fromthetrees · 02-12-2012 12:27PM

Pub owning is a good solid lazy upper-middle-class fat arsed dirty Irish paddy way to make a living.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 02-12-2012 12:36PM

What a crock if shte! 15% still leave off license drink less than 1/2 what it is in the pub. A bottle if beer is €4.50 in a pub and less than €1 in an off license. So the stupid turds that are the VFI think that it will encourage people back to the pub, not so, in fact it would deter me even more from going to a pub when I see what a shower of bad losers they are. **** them, I couldn't care less if every pub in the country shut down!

yosser hughes · 02-12-2012 01:02PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Considering that FG had it in their manifesto that they want to prop up the pubs, they can probably get whatever they ask for. Joke.

Fianna fail have it in their budget proposals.

Cantona's Collars · 02-12-2012 01:14PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

More profit on a bottle of coke then a pint of stout

The real rip off is on the minerals and the mixers

Price of a rock shandy would drive a man to drink! :mad:

Coca Cola Ireland had a promotion a few years back if you bought three drinks the publican gave you a free mineral. Designated driver campaign.
Huge publicity.
It's long gone now, seemed clever and a good idea

Out one night in one of my local pubs,loads of us on the pints & 2 designated drivers,asked the owner about the free minerals campaign,his answer was "in my pub you pay for your drinks".He lost a lot of custom that night as we left.

Wasn't it mentioned in a thread on drink prices recently that a lot of politicians own or have links to pubs?

Larianne · 02-12-2012 01:25PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

The only reason I still bother living is because I can get cheap cigarettes and alcohol which keep me happy. Why must they always tax the things I'm most fond of?

Edit: Don't really mind them hiking up the price of beer but they bloody better leave the price of my beloved Vodka alone!!

I'll get the potatoes ready.

Fr_Dougal · 02-12-2012 01:33PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

More profit on a bottle of coke then a pint of stout

The real rip off is on the minerals and the mixers

Price of a rock shandy would drive a man to drink! :mad:

Coca Cola Ireland had a promotion a few years back if you bought three drinks the publican gave you a free mineral. Designated driver campaign.
Huge publicity.
It's long gone now, seemed clever and a good idea

That Coke promotion is back on again now, well you can get "up to 3 free cokes" for the night. Its on the coke.ie website. 3 soft drinks wouldn't go far on a night out, but at least it's something.

suicide_circus · 02-12-2012 01:34PM

Who actually still afford to go on the piss in an Irish pub? If we are planning on getting well oiled we always congregate in one of our gafs and perhaps go to a gig or club after.

The only time i will go to a pub now is for a beer/cocktail or two and then it will only be if they have drinks promos or if they are craft beer orientated place. I cant remember the last time i set foot in a normal run of the mill pub and i have no desire to, they are dull dreary places and so insanely expensive. And all my friends would be the same, age group 22-30, all highly social but the pub does not really feature in our social landscape.

15% off-sales alcohol tax proposed

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