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Should we continue to farm animals for fur?

  • 30-11-2012 02:36PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1130/fur-industry-review.html
    A review of the fur industry for the Department of Agriculture has recommended that it should be allowed to continue.

    Some 225,000 mink are farmed for their fur on five farms around the country.

    The last government had recommended the fur industry be banned from the end of this year

    We eat burgars, bacon, chicken so why not continue farming animals for fur if its done in a humane manor?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    davet82 wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1130/fur-industry-review.html



    We eat burgars, bacon, chicken so why not continue farming animals for fur if its done in a humane manor?

    Why shouldn't we, you little minx:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    davet82 wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1130/fur-industry-review.html



    We eat burgars, bacon, chicken so why not continue farming animals for fur if its done in a humane manor?

    Think the issue here is that fur is a luxury humans can do without. Killing a cow for food and using its hide for leather is a different matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Think the issue here is that fur is a luxury humans can do without. Killing a cow for food and using its hide for leather is a different matter.

    so if we had a McMinx Meal, it would be ok?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    davet82 wrote: »

    so if we had a McMinx Meal, it would be ok?

    Minxed Grill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Jogathon


    I'm wearing a rabbit fur scarf right now and nothing keeps me warm like it! Would definately buy something similar in other colours. I also eat meat and fish on a regular basis.

    I am going to make a sweeping statement here and feel free to refute but I think that most country people wouldn't have a problem with the fur trade as we are used to dealing with livestock and see animals as a commodity rather than something cute and cuddly, but that most town-dwellers would be against the fur trade as they tend to personify animals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    davet82 wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1130/fur-industry-review.html



    We eat burgars, bacon, chicken so why not continue farming animals for fur if its done in a humane manor?

    Because we dont need to. We can make synthetic furs now a days. Its unwarranted savagery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    You can make synthetic meat too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    I've no problem with fur, I do have a problem with farming it in this country though. If a cow or a chicken escapes it rarely decimates the local wildlife population in the same manner that a non native species like the mink are doing. Mink are a bloody soft, furry, luxuriant, warm menace.

    /slips on gopher loafers and toddles off to make come cocoa....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Hippies!


    No we should create a minx sanctuary at a cost of 22million a year to the tax payer instead :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Because we dont need to. We can make synthetic furs now a days. Its unwarranted savagery.

    with out the savagery, if the minx were lets say 'put to sleep' would that make a difference to you or are you just against fur full stop?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Hippies! wrote: »
    No we should create a minx sanctuary at a cost of 22million a year to the tax payer instead :rolleyes:

    Let me be the first (of no doubt many) to volunteer my services as a ranger for your sanctuary, I'll protect these cute little minxes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    davet82 wrote: »

    with out the savagery, if the minx were lets say 'put to sleep' would that make a difference to you or are you just against fur full stop?

    Or the other option; not breeding or importing mink for their fur.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Jake Rugby Walrus666


    Fur is nothing to be afraid of.
    Don't be intimidated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    davet82 wrote: »
    so if we had a McMinx Meal, it would be ok?

    Yup, why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Because we dont need to. We can make synthetic furs now a days. Its unwarranted savagery.

    Who said anything about need?

    Plastic plants don't compare to real ones,
    "can't believe its not butter" doesn't compare to butter (despite stupid marketing name,
    Leatherette doesn't compare to real leather, etc etc.

    Likewise, real fur can never truly be copied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭garv123


    Its the fault of the tree hugger dogooders who released all the mink from the farms that the countries low population of rarer birds took a major hit.
    Do they plan on releasing all the alive mink again if it is banned?

    Only one good kind of mink and thats a dead one.



    persistent little fecks


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    hardCopy wrote: »
    Minxed Grill

    Minkshake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    I wouldn't wear real fur if you paid me.

    It's unneccessary and the conditions the animals are kept in are sickening. There should absolutely not be fur farms in Ireland in this day and age. Fur served its purpose at a time when there were feck all other options available, but today it's generally nothing more than a "luxury" item for people with more money than sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    *
    I wouldn't wear real fur if you paid me.

    but sure that would be like cannibalism for you* :D



    *see user name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    Absolutely not! Ban all fur trade.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    With Christmas coming up does anyone know of a good place to buy real fur?

    It would definitely make for some nice presents for herself and maybe my mom if I'm feeling generous!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    I am fine with killing animals for a purpose, and even using them as insulation is a purpose. Fine, but there's no need to have them locked up like they are. It's the conditions of their lives I have a problem with. It's not the fact that people wear fur, I'm sure a polar bear would skin you and wear you if he got the chance, it's that people treat them so badly. We're meant to be of higher intelligence than every other species, which includes awareness of suffering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    garv123 wrote: »
    Its the fault of the tree hugger dogooders who released all the mink from the farms that the countries low population of rarer birds took a major hit.
    Do they plan on releasing all the alive mink again if it is banned?

    Only one good kind of mink and thats a dead one.



    persistent little fecks

    I agree that whoever released the mink were twats! Who clearly didnt have a clue about nature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I think that the fur industry should be more closely monitored to ensure that the animals have a decent standard of life and are kept in decent conditions, but I see nothing wrong with the farming of animals for fur. Fur (or leather) is incredibly warm and durable. It's more environmentally friendly as it's a renewable resource, unlike the petroleum-based synthetic options.

    The problem comes when some idiots people release them into habitats that can't cope with them, as happened in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    I wouldn't wear real fur if you paid me.

    It's unneccessary and the conditions the animals are kept in are sickening. There should absolutely not be fur farms in Ireland in this day and age. Fur served its purpose at a time when there were feck all other options available, but today it's generally nothing more than a "luxury" item for people with more money than sense.

    Fine, your choice, now respect the choice of others with a different view.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Growing up a mink was another word for a traveler or knacker. So when I read the article years ago that someone had released thousands of minks, I thought, great, that's what we need, thousands more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Animals raised purely for the fur and "luxury" trade should be banned I think.

    Being kept prisoner and raised for slaughter all so some uppity, ignorant c*nts can show off the animal hide they're wearing for the winter is not essential and unnecessary.

    Same with Tuna, would never eat it. It's one thing putting a cow or pig to sleep, but it's another harpooning a dolphin, netting it and then letting it bleed out on the deck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Minks means something else in Galway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Faux fur is rubbish compared to the real thing, I have a hat made from Rabbit, I have tried many synteic materials but none of them are as good as the real thing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭Wurly


    It appalls me that anyone can stand over such suffering being inflicted on an animal. Most are skinned alive. It's a whole new level of barbarism and selfishness.


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