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OMG, my life has been changed! E-Cigs..

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  • #32
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Yes spamming.

    If I started a thread,

    "Hey everybody you should check out [Product X]...

    Look at the savings you can make....

    Celebrity Z uses this product...

    You can get [Product X] here...www.where-can-you-buy-this-shít-im-pimping.com..."

    It would be rightly flagged as spam.

    He's not promoting a product he's selling or making himself, though, merely making people aware of the benefits of something he's tried that works for him and may help others.


  • #33
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Tony Soprano. wrote: »
    Grow up ffs.
    Irritable much?


  • #34
    donegal_road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    wonder does E wine exist yet?


  • #35
    Tony Soprano.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 298 ✭✭Tony Soprano.


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    im off the smokes 16 months , thanks to e cigs

    but i wont say they are 100% safe - not long term studies
    and most of the info on the web is either funded by pro or anti e cig groups

    new york has banned them , Australia and NZ also , in finland you can not use them on public transport

    in saying that i love them , have no intention of giving up using it
    and as for smoking in pubs or clubs ,i have never had in Ireland got any problems off anyone

    but , as my cardiologist said to me , they cant be any worse than the real thing

    Good to hear dj jarvis. But maybe the chemists should stop selling Nicotine patches and gum products then, as all an e-cig is just that with vapor?


  • #36
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Tony Soprano. wrote: »
    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/

    I went for the Kanger starter pack. Everyone on the Vaping/E-Cig forum recommends it. http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/kangtwist.htm

    Had been meaning to order a proper one for ages, tried a disposable one before and it was good. Have just ordered that Kang jobby right now, cheers.


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  • #37
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Anything else and this would be considered spamming, not sure how e-cigs are any different.
    Oh I'd agree with you up to a point JS, but these yokes could very well save lives with those folks who just can't give up the nicotine hit. Bear with me...

    I'd count myself among those TBH. After an adulthood of smoking, I gave up cold turkey(the best way IMHO, tho YMMV), I didn't imbibe nicotine for over a year and christ my head went to mush. I actually started to carry a notebook around to keep track because I could barely keep up with the simple stuff. I'm not joking JS. Clearly my brain chemistry out of the box was/is fooked. :( I look at my schooling and the results I got over the years and they were all over the place. My leaving cert was a disaster. I found/find it hard to focus. Always have done. I can juggle a load of mental balls in the air, but trying to pick one out is the hardship. It's like you have a telly with 20 channels randomly flicking on, but no remote control to say "OK now I'll tune into South Park". Very frustrating. Came to the demon weed quite late for some at 17. I repeated my leaving cert that year and got pretty high marks, very high in a couple of subjects. And with precious little study involved and a completely diffferent result from the previous year.

    Subsequently I read more on the subject and the drug. ADD/ADHD used to be thought of as a juvenile condition/illness. Latterly more and more people are coming forward as adults with it. More than in the past. Some researchers have dug into the stats etc and found that in the past when smoking was considered OK, those kids fell off the ADHD radar because they took up smoking. Now because of the rightfully very real health issues they don't take it up nearly so much. A couple of trials showed nicotine was better for ADD/ADHD than other drugs like Ritilin. With less side effects too.

    Hey maybe we're self dosing*, those among us a bit screwed up :), but if there's a better way and a far more healthy way to get our "fix/relief" I'm all for it. If it had been available for me back in the day, I'd never have touched flame to Reynolds rolled half rancid dirty leaf.



    *odd one is that in Ireland today with it's non smoking laws in enclosed spaces one of the few exempt are psychiatric hospitals. Lots of self dosing going on. Studise have shown nicotine does indeed improve memory in normal subjects and seems to protect agin some forms of Parkinsons and Alzheimers. Yes tobacco is one of the single most deadly, nay damn near evil drugs we've ever plugged into, but nothing is ever so black and white. We can argue the ratio :)

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #38
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I quit smoking 20 years ago, If E-Cigs had been around then, I'm sure I'd a've tried them.


  • #39
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Tony Soprano. wrote: »
    This is a revolutionary product, the tobacco companies should be worried, big time!
    I wouldn't count on it. I'm sure tobacco companies are positioning their grubby little mitts on this market as well.
    dark crystal wrote: »
    He's not promoting a product he's selling or making himself, though, merely making people aware of the benefits of something he's tried that works for him and may help others.
    Still counts as spam - see below.
    Tony Soprano. wrote: »
    I know there's an Vaping & E-Smoking forum, but trying to get this message out to as many people as possible. Make the change today!


  • #40
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Tony Soprano. wrote: »
    Good to hear dj jarvis. But maybe the chemists should stop selling Nicotine patches and gum products then, as all an e-cig is just that with vapor?

    Those drug companies wouldn't be very happy with that.

    It might interfere with their concern for the health of the public.:rolleyes:


  • #41
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Tony Soprano. wrote: »
    Bought an E-Cigarette yesterday. I've been smoking for over 20 years - about 35-a-day - and this gadget has changed my life.

    No tar or other carcinogenic substances or ingredients harmful to human body. Eliminating about 3,000 other harmful chemicals. No second-hand smoke - you can smoke them anywhere as they only produce a vapor-like smoke. No smell or nothing.

    Cost about €12 a week to feed my habit, as against €120 on real cigarettes. This is a revolutionary product, the tobacco companies should be worried, big time!

    I know there's an Vaping & E-Smoking forum, but trying to get this message out to as many people as possible. Make the change today!

    Charlie Sheen has recently launched his own e cigarette company, NicoSheen. Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears, Kate Moss and Leonardo DiCaprio have also made the switch.

    Here is Katherine Heigl on David Letterman with her e-cigarette.

    Are you shilling these?


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  • #42
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Had been meaning to order a proper one for ages, tried a disposable one before and it was good. Have just ordered that Kang jobby right now, cheers.


    you wont look back, just takin a hit of Tiramisu flavour now.:D


  • #43
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    Are you shilling these?

    He's not. I had a look on the Vaping forum, he's after recommending what was recommended to him a few days ago right here on boards. 100% legit.


  • #44
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Had been meaning to order a proper one for ages, tried a disposable one before and it was good. Have just ordered that Kang jobby right now, cheers.

    That's a good system alright.

    If you have problems with the T3 units, try the T2s.

    Sure, they're only a fiver apiece.


  • #45
    Tony Soprano.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 298 ✭✭Tony Soprano.


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    He's not. I had a look on the Vaping forum, he's after recommending what was recommended to him a few days ago right here on boards. 100% legit.

    Thanks Fr_Dougal, appreciated.


  • #46
    asherbassad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    Tony Soprano. wrote: »
    Bought an E-Cigarette yesterday. I've been smoking for over 20 years - about 35-a-day - and this gadget has changed my life.

    No tar or other carcinogenic substances or ingredients harmful to human body. Eliminating about 3,000 other harmful chemicals. No second-hand smoke - you can smoke them anywhere as they only produce a vapor-like smoke. No smell or nothing.

    Cost about €12 a week to feed my habit, as against €120 on real cigarettes. This is a revolutionary product, the tobacco companies should be worried, big time!

    I know there's an Vaping & E-Smoking forum, but trying to get this message out to as many people as possible. Make the change today!

    Charlie Sheen has recently launched his own e cigarette company, NicoSheen. Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears, Kate Moss and Leonardo DiCaprio have also made the switch.

    Here is Katherine Heigl on David Letterman with her e-cigarette.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysGyfLwwr1s

    I bought my first one of these about 4 fcuking years ago.

    What's it like to be 10 minutes behind the rest of the world?


  • #47
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Oh I'd agree with you up to a point JS, but these yokes could very well save lives with those folks who just can't give up the nicotine hit. Bear with me...

    I'd count myself among those TBH. After an adulthood of smoking, I gave up cold turkey(the best way IMHO, tho YMMV), I didn't imbibe nicotine for over a year and christ my head went to mush. I actually started to carry a notebook around to keep track because I could barely keep up with the simple stuff. I'm not joking JS. Clearly my brain chemistry out of the box was/is fooked. :( I look at my schooling and the results I got over the years and they were all over the place. My leaving cert was a disaster. I found/find it hard to focus. Always have done. I can juggle a load of mental balls in the air, but trying to pick one out is the hardship. It's like you have a telly with 20 channels randomly flicking on, but no remote control to say "OK now I'll tune into South Park". Very frustrating. Came to the demon weed quite late for some at 17. I repeated my leaving cert that year and got pretty high marks, very high in a couple of subjects. And with precious little study involved and a completely diffferent result from the previous year.

    Subsequently I read more on the subject and the drug. ADD/ADHD used to be thought of as a juvenile condition/illness. Latterly more and more people are coming forward as adults with it. More than in the past. Some researchers have dug into the stats etc and found that in the past when smoking was considered OK, those kids fell off the ADHD radar because they took up smoking. Now because of the rightfully very real health issues they don't take it up nearly so much. A couple of trials showed nicotine was better for ADD/ADHD than other drugs like Ritilin. With less side effects too.

    Hey maybe we're self dosing*, those among us a bit screwed up :), but if there's a better way and a far more healthy way to get our "fix/relief" I'm all for it. If it had been available for me back in the day, I'd never have touched flame to Reynolds rolled half rancid dirty leaf.



    *odd one is that in Ireland today with it's non smoking laws in enclosed spaces one of the few exempt are psychiatric hospitals. Lots of self dosing going on. Studise have shown nicotine does indeed improve memory in normal subjects and seems to protect agin some forms of Parkinsons and Alzheimers. Yes tobacco is one of the single most deadly, nay damn near evil drugs we've ever plugged into, but nothing is ever so black and white. We can argue the ratio :)

    I wouldn't go down the save lives route via these things just yet. I agree that Nicotine definitely has its uses health wise but there's currently two issues here. The first is that for manufacturers the most cost effective way to produce e-cigs is by using nicotine sourced from tobacco and contamination of tar is very real concern. I'm sure with better regulation and standards this fear could be sorted out but right now it's not even being addressed. People are being led to believe these products are tobacco free when they're actually not.

    The second is that because of how these are delivered to the person they may actually increase susceptibility to nicotine addiction. Regardless of medical benefits if a delivery method increases chances of addiction it shouldn't be supported.

    As you said though it's a gray area, if this gets people off smoking then I'm actually, reservedly, going to support it. Smoking damages a persons health in so many ways, not just ways that could kill them, but ways that put a huge stress on the healthcare.


  • #48
    Tony Soprano.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 298 ✭✭Tony Soprano.


    asherbassad wrote: »
    I bought my first one of these about 4 fcuking years ago.

    What's it like to be 10 minutes behind the rest of the world?

    4 years, 10 minutes. What exactly are you trying to say? What age are you?


  • #49
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Stained Class wrote: »
    That's a good system alright.

    If you have problems with the T3 units, try the T2s.

    Sure, they're only a fiver apiece.

    Went for the T2 with the 900mh battery, wasn't sure what to choose for a sample pack so I just asked for "something similar to Marlboro lights"!


  • #50
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    you wont find a juice that tastes like a brand of cigarettes or even like smoking cigarettes, it's next to impossible to replicate the taste and feel of burning paper and plant material.

    some liquids come closer than others but none of them taste anything like the real thing. once you stop smoking and get your taste buds back, you'll see why that's a good thing.


  • #51
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Jernal wrote: »
    I wouldn't go down the save lives route via these things just yet. I agree that Nicotine definitely has its uses health wise but there's currently two issues here. The first is that for manufacturers the most cost effective way to produce e-cigs is by using nicotine sourced from tobacco and contamination of tar is very real concern. I'm sure with better regulation and standards this fear could be sorted out but right now it's not even being addressed. People are being led to believe these products are tobacco free when they're actually not.

    The second is that because of how these are delivered to the person they may actually increase susceptibility to nicotine addiction. Regardless of medical benefits if a delivery method increases chances of addiction it shouldn't be supported.

    As you said though it's a gray area, if this gets people off smoking then I'm actually, reservedly, going to support it. Smoking damages a persons health in so many ways, not just ways that could kill them, but ways that put a huge stress on the healthcare.

    That's a valid point.

    People say to me that I've swapped one addiction for another.

    Untrue, I've the same addiction (to Nicotine) that I've always had, but I'm taking it in in a much less harmful way.

    That's not to say Vaping is not harmful, but so far it seems like it's no more harmful than Nicotine patches or drinking a lot of Tea.

    More research needs to be done on this though.

    In the meantine, I'm glad & proud to have lasted off the smokes this long.

    Maybe I should change my username to Not so Stained Class.


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  • #52
    westendgirlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    I think I should invest in a e-cig. Have no idea what yous are rambling on about though with your T2's and T3's


  • #53
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    an ecig is made up of a battery and an atomiser. the battery powers the atomiser, the atomisers heats the juice to produce the vapour

    the t2/t3 are different revisions of one particular model of atomiser. there's lots of different types, brands, models, whatever. batteries are a little more standardised but there's still lots of options there for people who absolutely must spend their money on something.


  • #54
    Tony Soprano.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 298 ✭✭Tony Soprano.


    westendgirlie wrote: »
    I think I should invest in a e-cig. Have no idea what yous are rambling on about though with your T2's and T3's

    Just different models of e-cigs, don't worry about it. Join the e-cig community today and you won't be sorry.


  • #55
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »
    the t2/t3 are different revisions of one particular model of atomiser. there's lots of different types, brands, models, whatever. batteries are a little more standardised but there's still lots of options there for people who absolutely must spend their money on something.

    What's the difference between the t2 and t3?


  • #56
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Went for the T2 with the 900mh battery, wasn't sure what to choose for a sample pack so I just asked for "something similar to Marlboro lights"!

    Exactly what I'm using at the mo!

    I tend to vape liquids that are not tobacco, i.e. Red Cola etc.

    Also, I hardly ever buy packets of chewing gum nowadays.

    I used to do that all the time when I was smoking.

    Underneath it all, I musn't ever have liked the taste of cigerattes anyway.

    I was/am just addicted to the Nicotine.


  • #57
    westendgirlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    Can you buy these in a pharmacy or are they available online only?

    I'm a B&H smoker.


  • #58
    guppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭guppy


    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »
    you wont find a juice that tastes like a brand of cigarettes or even like smoking cigarettes, it's next to impossible to replicate the taste and feel of burning paper and plant material.

    some liquids come closer than others but none of them taste anything like the real thing. once you stop smoking and get your taste buds back, you'll see why that's a good thing.

    I started off using a "Marlboro-like" juice as I couldn't get my head around flavoured cigs. After 2 days I ordered flavoured juice and would never go back to cigarette flavoured ones now.


  • #59
    Tony Soprano.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 298 ✭✭Tony Soprano.


    westendgirlie wrote: »
    Can you buy these in a pharmacy or are they available online only?

    I'm a B&H smoker.

    I'd love to give you a link, but I've been accused of spamming twice already. :rolleyes:


  • #60
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    What's the difference between the t2 and t3?



    the t2 has the heating coil at the top of the unit, the t3 at the bottom. the t2 has a warmer vape as a result as the coil is closer to the mouth, the t3 is a bit cooler but people say the flavour is better. I've used neither of them, I have a rebuildable so I wrap my own heating coils inside a custom made atomiser.


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  • #61
    Syllabus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Syllabus


    i gave up by just stopping

    its called self control


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