Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

CiniO wrote: »

There's no such thing as imaginary white lines.
They are either there or not.

The white lines are visible in the photo ,but invisible in the dash-cam ..........So are they there or are they not ?

Tallon wrote: »

No he hasn't, you need some prescription glasses there mate!

Definitely has Tallon. Has passed the gate and stops half way in junction. Look at the map. No way his car is still in car park. He is well outside the gate before other car makes its first turn left.

Edited to say maybe not well outside but I'd give the nod to the OP being outside the gate before the other driver completed her maneuver. Doesn't affect my main argument but it does affect yours I suppose.

bar32 wrote: »

Yes, that's basically it. Comes down to our different interpretations of the roads in front of us as to who is right or wrong. My opinion, and please I know this is very naive/shaky and I'm open to correction, would be that a 3 way junction would most definitely be signposted whereas a 2 way junction wouldn't necessarily be. Think about it, how many 2 road junctions do you pass without signposts?

As I discovered by driving in Ireland, most junctions are signed from the side road side by installing yield or stop sign and painting appropriate lines.
Here there is neither of those.

Most 3 way junctions in this country are T junctions, where right of way goes to vehicles going straight ahead.

This seems to be quite unusual road formation (3 way junction which is not T junction) but whatever way you look at it, it exists, and we can see it on the video and picture.
I admit it's unusual, but those facts make this junction a junction of roads with equal importance, and therefore right of way goes to vehicles coming from the right.

If whoever designed this junction wanted one of the road to be the main road, he would sign it appropriately.

CiniO wrote: »

As I discovered by driving in Ireland, most junctions are signed from the side road side by installing yield or stop sign and painting appropriate lines.
Here there is neither of those.

Most 3 way junctions in this country are T junctions, where right of way goes to vehicles going straight ahead.

This seems to be quite unusual road formation (3 way junction which is not T junction) but whatever way you look at it, it exists, and we can see it on the video and picture.
I admit it's unusual, but those facts make this junction a junction of roads with equal importance, and therefore right of way goes to vehicles coming from the right.

If whoever designed this junction wanted one of the road to be the main road, he would sign it appropriately.

Just to clarify, a T junction is where 2 roads meet. All arguments made against my opinion are based on 3 roads meeting.

I'm past the wall and therefore on the road, a small straight stretch to a T junction with a main road, before the T junction there's a turn on my left into an estate.
I maintain I had right of way on the road,as i was going straight and the woman had to make a right turn across me.
Look at the map again.

Tallon wrote: »

Hang on, you said he 'is out on the road' employing the main road, which he IS NOT!
He is on a side street, the woman has right of way, end of!!!!

Hold your horses a second. I'm not implying the "main road". As I said in an earlier post, they are both on the same road at the same time. Doesn't matter what you call the road. Now, because I believe that they are on the same road, the other driver pulled across the OP's side of the road in front of him and so is wrong.

Tallon wrote: »

If you all stop and think for a second that the kerb directly in front of the op in the first few seconds is a roundabout, who would have right of way?

She would, but it's not a roundabout. she had two turns to do,left off of the main road, them right,against oncoming(me) traffic,

CiniO wrote: »

So in general bar32 reckons the main road goes to the petrol station, and there is a turn to the side to the estate.
While Cedrus thinks the main road goes into the estate, and there is a side turn into the gate.

Any reasons for such interpretation, provided there is no indication in form of any road signs or signage, and also all 3 roads seem to be nearly all at 120degrees angle between each other?>

I know this area very well and know that the two main entrances/exits to the petrol station and Scannells shop are actually on Market street to the east of the building and canopy, that this is a rear gate of relatively recent construction which very few people would use as it basically goes away from the town. The car park is also technically private property while the road is public.
Also it is clearly shown on the ordinance survey map as a driveway

housetypeb wrote: »

She would, but it's not a roundabout. she had two turns to do,left off of the main road, them right,against oncoming(me) traffic,

As pointed out, she was coming off the main road, that you then turned onto, she had right of way, not you. Please burn you license and re-learn how to drive.

bar32 wrote: »

So you now agree the OP was on the road first?

He could be on the road first be he is still in the wrong, he had to cross her lane to get to his lane / side if the road. She came off the higher importance road, into a housing estate, again a road that would have more importance than the enterance / exit of a petrol station.

housetypeb wrote: »

She. was .entering. an estate. off. of .a .road.
It's a two way street and she cut right in front of me.

Two way street, that you have to cross HER side of the road to get where you wanted to go, YOU ARE WRONG.

I will back this up, my wife got t-boned by a van doing the same as you. His insurance said he was wrong.

Came across an impatient fella in a transit earlier:



I don't even....