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Why should boys get to take it to the max while girls are left with pink play sets?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    Because boys rule and girls drool!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Who wears the trousers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    More nonsense. Glass ceiling? Why do feminists only care about what is (supposedly) above their heads? Jennifer - why aren't there more female garbage collectors or sewer workers? Why don't you care about that?

    Oh, and please - enough with the freshman feminist articles already. You haven't had a single original idea since you began writing here.

    Got three lines into that crap and then went to the comments section. Seems about right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭emo72


    Jamez735 wrote: »
    Because boys rule and girls drool!

    Naked brothers band? Whatever happened to them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    My Tonka made me the man I am today GRRRRRRRR


    edit - could have been worse..............could have been my Dinky :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,189 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    If parents were buying the stuff for girls I'm sure the marketing crowd wouldn't be long adapting to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    emo72 wrote: »
    Naked brothers band? Whatever happened to them?

    Who?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    I'm a grown man, and I love dolls, especially blonde ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I do agree with the article. Full-heratedly.

    Nevermind toy shops, even the toy ads between Spongebob episodes are enough to make me retch.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    Pottler wrote: »
    I'm a grown man, and I love dolls, especially blonde ones.

    Even better when they're of the inflatable variety. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭cgarrad


    Barbie is owned by Mattel a multi billion dollar company.

    I guarantee they have done their research, its what people want.


  • Posts: 79 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    inane, empty-headed trash.

    and "gender equality", what a joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Jamez735 wrote: »
    Even better when they're of the inflatable variety. :D
    I prefer the ones that wear tight skirts, high heels and Chanel. And Champagne.:D Gotta love a doll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Because the girls told the boys what to do, this is true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    That article is just a load of crap really.
    The things that people find to complain about!
    There are kitchens 'for boys', and hoovers 'for boys' and all sorts of things.
    If by 'for boys' we mean blue or green, or maybe have a picture of a boy on the box!

    Overall, the reason why there are certain toys geared towards certain genders is because those genders tend to lean towards those types of toys.
    Girls want to be like mommies and play certain ways with certain toys - all showing their natural nurturing qualities, boys like boisterous stuff or more logical type things.
    That is not just stereotyping - that's the way it is.

    But both genders will always enjoy certain toys/games geared towards the opposite gender though.
    Girls do like playing loud, boisterous games at times, and boys enjoy quiet, imaginative play at times.
    But in general, the toys geared towards each gender tends to be that way for a reason.

    Besides all that though - does it really matter if a kitchen is pink and has a girl on the box? Can't you just get that for a boy? What's the big deal?
    I have bought my daughter tons of 'boy's toys', and when she was a baby, my son had a doll with all the accessories that he would mind and care for while I was minding the real baby. He's had tea sets, a kitchen, toy cleaning accessories. All sorts of things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I bought my son 2 female wrestlers once. He uses them to pose in the passenger seat of his remote control Ferrari while a power ranger drives!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Baby girl and a baby boy eh.

    One sits on its butt and cries, the other sits on its butt and bawls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Hippies!


    I don't get it.

    So advertisers advertise barbie and what not directly to girls and it's pink....big whoop? :confused:

    Look at this ad for Meccano from 1992


    Completely gender neutral and could equally be aimed at a girl.

    I can't explain "It's amazing what you and a spanner can do" though :o

    Another gender neutral ad from lego


    In conclusion, sissy boys are being discriminated against because Barbie insists on portraying their products as for girls only. Disgrace.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Cosmicfox


    Even as a child I found that quite annoying. I had no interest in dolls but that's all I ever got off people. The girls section in the argos catalogue is just a big blob of pink I wasn't interested in action man or toy lorries either mind.

    I ended up having a big box full of near pristine barbies and babydolls I never went near. Some money must have been wasted on those. I wonder how many other little girls felt the same.

    I just played with plastic animals, lego and crash bandicoot on the PS1.

    I don't think it's little girls demanding these toys, it's just what is bought for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    As a parent, I can give some angle on this.

    Put simply, girls are diffrent to boys from day one.

    Don't listen to the 'all is equal' brigade. They are so full of sh1t that their eyes are brown.

    Boys & Girls are diffrent.

    Always have been & always will be.

    The world's a better place for it too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 408 ✭✭PC CDROM


    That article is just a load of crap really.
    The things that people find to complain about!
    There are kitchens 'for boys', and hoovers 'for boys' and all sorts of things.
    If by 'for boys' we mean blue or green, or maybe have a picture of a boy on the box!

    Overall, the reason why there are certain toys geared towards certain genders is because those genders tend to lean towards those types of toys.
    Girls want to be like mommies and play certain ways with certain toys - all showing their natural nurturing qualities, boys like boisterous stuff or more logical type things.
    That is not just stereotyping - that's the way it is.

    But both genders will always enjoy certain toys/games geared towards the opposite gender though.
    Girls do like playing loud, boisterous games at times, and boys enjoy quiet, imaginative play at times.
    But in general, the toys geared towards each gender tends to be that way for a reason.

    Besides all that though - does it really matter if a kitchen is pink and has a girl on the box? Can't you just get that for a boy? What's the big deal?
    I have bought my daughter tons of 'boy's toys', and when she was a baby, my son had a doll with all the accessories that he would mind and care for while I was minding the real baby. He's had tea sets, a kitchen, toy cleaning accessories. All sorts of things.

    But have you considered the effect this is all going to have on the upper echelon jobs and activities for kids? Like being a TD or CEO etc etc.

    Not basic jobs.

    It's important in gender equality terms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭cgarrad


    Women want to be men.

    It's sad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    cgarrad wrote: »
    Women want to be men.

    It's sad.
    I've never noticed a queue of women wanting to do sh1tty greasy jobs though, nor too many women who want to be men when they've a flat tyre or battery... anyway, I hate manneen women, far better to be female and all woman. Who the hell wants the sexes to be the same? Nothing as attractive as a feminine woman who is confident in the fact she is a woman, not trying to be somthing she isn't. It's like an effete man, ffs, just act your sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭cafecolour


    Is Ireland in some 20 year time-warp? This is like an article from the US/England from the early-90s.

    Anyway, there's always my parents' approach, which is to treat both genders equally by only buying them 'educational toys' (at least until about age 9-10 when they finally gave into our whining and bought us normal toys like our friends).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    PC CDROM wrote: »
    But have you considered the effect this is all going to have on the upper echelon jobs and activities for kids? Like being a TD or CEO etc etc.

    Not basic jobs.

    It's important in gender equality terms.

    What in the name of god are you talking about?
    What have toys got to do with being a CEO?!
    Gender equality is all about both genders having equal rights, not about being the same.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Pottler wrote: »
    I've never noticed a queue of women wanting to do sh1tty greasy jobs though, nor too many women who want to be men when they've a flat tyre or battery... anyway, I hate manneen women, far better to be female and all woman. Who the hell wants the sexes to be the same? Nothing as attractive a feminine woman who is confident in the fact she is a woman, not trying to be somthing she isn't.

    Strangely although I was female, my Dad wanted his firstborn to be a boy, so ignored my gender. I'd everything from Dolls to lego to those multi storey garages as toys when I was a kid.

    I learned how to cook(my Mum didn't cook), how to run a business (my parents were self employed), how to plumb in a sink, wire in a cooker, change a plug, all sorts of stuff, unlike most of my siblings.

    I got to play any sport I wanted and was encouraged to get involved in politics, debate, charity, as I have to say were all of my siblings. I also did Irish Dancing and gymnastics (which I got thrown out of as I was "ungraceful")

    I've stopped to help out a bloke with a puncture, and whilst first bemused, they were then most grateful, now I'm fairly slight so we split the jobs on our physical ability, but they were very grateful for the assistance. I've had men stop to help me when I've had punctures and appreciated the help too, not cos I couldn't do it, but as it was appreciated. When I did my driving test I got a puncture and my tester just stood there whilst I changed it and congratulated me on my ability to do so :eek:

    I never understood the gender gap when I was a child, have ended up in a primarily male occupation, and rarely come across the gender gap. I've been visibily in need of help i.e. on crutches in the past, and gotten help from both genders

    I'd argue there is a bit of nature versus nurture here, my sister next to me is a mother of two with a daughter who lives in pink, thinks hello kitty is God, and does ballet.

    As an adult female I can buy pink power tools (I don't as I dislike the colour) but can and do buy feminine umbrellas to stop my male colleagues stealing and ruining mine.

    Are we formed by our childhoods? I suspect not. Studies clearly show that male/female patterns of behaviour are predicated on hormone levels, and it can influence.

    Toys don't matter a feck, yes they are a social tool, but that pretend baby doll I got aged seven didn't turn me into an earthmother. It's the overall upbringing the sense of self belief and the empowering of that which is most important in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    stheno, you sound sound.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭ladypip


    Whilst shopping for xmas this week myself and my partner were looking for some art kits for our son only to be faced with walls of pink boxes. It seems toy companies are now telling our little boys they cant create. I would have no objection to buying something in a pink box for him but I don't think he would get much use out of flowery jewellery kits or design your own dolls clothes kits. When I was a kid there was a great section of kits to choose from, at least half unisex and then equal boy girl specific kits. Lego is another one we noticed with exception of the blatantly girly girly friends sets everything was in blue boxes with male themes. Come on toy companys not every girl or boy fits so neatly into the little peg holes you are forcing them into.


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