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Farming Chit Chat

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  • #6842
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    just do it wrote: »
    As others have said I really appreciate the pics and details of your cattle sold. It's not often you get the whole lot together including the breeding.

    I'm interested that you're breeding these cows to BB. Are you hoping for breeding heifers out of them, rather than breeding them to produce export quality weanlings? I bought a few FRx cows this year (LMx2 and AAx2) and I'm thinking of giving them a CH to produce weanlings for the Irish market is the best choice.

    So you'll have something like myself off the aa


  • #6843
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    tismesoitis wrote: »

    ye just do it learning as i go
    And just when we've it figured out it will be time to pass it on to the next generation who'll roll their eyes at our hard earned words of wisdom ! :)


  • #6844
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    tismesoitis wrote: »
    ye just do it learning as i go none of these cows will be getting bb again especially the simmentals. all back incalf to part or lim for replacements. sticking bb on cows with at least 2 generation beef breeding in them in other words daughters of these ladies.


    So you'll be putting bb on the parts?


  • #6845
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    towzer2010 wrote: »

    I have two lmx cows from fr cows and I gave them both ch this year. Calves are good but a dirty brown colour and probably won't sell as we'll because if it.
    That's disappointing, make sure to report when you do sell. What are you giving them now instead?


  • #6846
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    johnpawl wrote: »

    So you'll have something like myself off the aa
    Nice heifer jp, will you breed her?


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  • #6847
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    just do it wrote: »
    Nice heifer jp, will you breed her?

    Ya, she's about 16 months in the picture. She'll be getting an easy calving part next month. All the calves I had ch from AA came that colour or yellow and made great weanlings.
    Was at a munster AI demonstration where they maintained if you had a milky cow and put a bull on her with no milk in his pedigree the daughter would have no milk so waiting to see. Thats the mother beside her.
    Buying a couple more AA x fr next year to put a ch on


  • #6848
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    johnpawl wrote: »
    So you'll be putting bb on the parts?

    thats d plan....what u think?


  • #6849
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Parth heifers for sale in Westmeath;
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4163459


  • #6850
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Parth heifers for sale in Westmeath;
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4163459


    Any percentage in a dairy farmer using a few of these parth straws. Is there a premium for them compared to ch/lim/bb. Would there be much market for bulling weight fr x parth heifers?


  • #6851
    towzer2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 533 ✭✭✭towzer2010


    just do it wrote: »
    That's disappointing, make sure to report when you do sell. What are you giving them now instead?

    They are both heifers so I'm going to keep them for cows. They should have loads of milk and that bit more shape to transfer to the calf.... Well that's the hope anyway. I'll give them a LM first and see how they go.

    I gave both of the mothers the LM bull MBP this year so I'll see what they turn out like. BB should be good off them as well I think.


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  • #6852
    Black Smoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭Black Smoke


    towzer2010 wrote: »
    They are both heifers so I'm going to keep them for cows. They should have loads of milk and that bit more shape to transfer to the calf.... Well that's the hope anyway. I'll give them a LM first and see how they go.

    I gave both of them the LM bull MBP this year so I'll see what they turn out like. BB should be good off them as well I think.

    I have a small black lim cow, with 25% friesian. Always runs with the stock char bull. Strangely she usually throws a nice red calf, as in limousine red.
    This year she landed this mousey colour heifer, which I'm keeping for replacement. Like you, I think she might make a good dam for a blue in due course. Pic was taken back in the summer.


  • #6853
    towzer2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 533 ✭✭✭towzer2010


    Black Smoke wrote: »
    I have a small black lim cow, with 25% friesian. Always runs with the stock char bull. Strangely she usually throws a nice red calf, as in limousine red.
    This year she landed this mousey colour heifer, which I'm keeping for replacement. Like you, I think she might make a good dam for a blue in due course. Pic was taken back in the summer.

    Exactly the same as my two minus the white socks.


  • #6854
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Black Smoke wrote: »
    I have a small black lim cow, with 25% friesian. Always runs with the stock char bull. Strangely she usually throws a nice red calf, as in limousine red.
    This year she landed this mousey colour heifer, which I'm keeping for replacement. Like you, I think she might make a good dam for a blue in due course. Pic was taken back in the summer.

    Lovely calf for breeding. Have a number of heifers and cows of a similar breed and colour and they are probably the best all rounders we have. A neighbour, a few years ago, had a cow like her and bred a BB heifer off her. Sold her in the Winter fair in Carrick on Shannon for €5000. A few people that had seen the cow commented that she wouldn't be the type of cow you would expect to breed such an animal. Neighbour replied that the buyer never sees the cows when he brings weinlings to the mart!!


  • #6855
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    johnpawl wrote: »
    Ya, she's about 16 months in the picture.

    I was wondering were you trying to fool us into thinking she was still on that cow!!!! :D:D:D......... they're just grazing together... phew!!


  • #6856
    Black Smoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭Black Smoke


    Latest blockbuster ;)http://www.auctionmarts.com/livestreamsale.asp?saleID=83259&liveA=exeter


  • #6857
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Quick question here, If I signed a long term lease on rented land (say 5/10yrs), and that land was sold in the meanwhile, what would happen my lease? Would it only be passed through to the new owners if it was sold on the bases that the lease has to continue.


  • #6858
    Manoffeeling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Manoffeeling


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Quick question here, If I signed a long term lease on rented land (say 5/10yrs), and that land was sold in the meanwhile, what would happen my lease? Would it only be passed through to the new owners if it was sold on the bases that the lease has to continue.

    You have the land leased so you will have to sign out of it. You could be sound and peaceful and look for nothing. Or you could be thick and contrary and take him to the cleaners. I think I am right but I was wrong once before!!!!


  • #6859
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Ah right, so the landowner would be stupid to sign a lease now if he knew there is a chance that he'll sell before its up? I currently rent land off a chap on a 1year lease at a time, he had it forsale, but now there is talk that he'll hang onto it for the next few years. Makes things v messy for me moving forward, not knowing what I'm at one year to the next!

    Meanwhile, found this over on facebook. Looks like a pure deathwish!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FReT0RBIs


  • #6860
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    tismesoitis wrote: »
    thats d plan....what u think?

    I'm thinking along the same lines. I'll have part heifers off AA x brfr cows and off chxaa cows, intend keeping them and putting them back in calf to part and BB hoping for quality calves. Have a couple pedigree parts too and will be interested to see how the purebreds compare to the crossbreds for thrive etc. Be curious to see how the purebreds are for milk too.


  • #6861
    Richk2012
    Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Richk2012


    Got straws off Progressive Tuesday afternoon .

    Was in the yard when they arrived and i got talking to lad who was delivering them , who is also a breeding advisor .

    I got HCA Limo straws for a few maidens . I wanted to use OZS as i used him last year on the heifers and the first one is due tomorrow .

    He told me that his stats have changed and is not at all suitable for heifers as some cows are having difficulties calving his calves .

    All well and good dodging the bullet and not using him this year , but i have a couple of heifers due from tomorrow .
    Any feedback on him ???


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  • #6862
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    OZS is hard calving alright, according to his figures on ICBF.com. Maybe you'll have heifers and win both ways.


  • #6863
    caseman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭caseman


    hugo29 wrote: »
    reilig

    do you use any other marts around, I have 4 bb heifers booked into ballymote tomorrow, i find in ballymote that the bb are hard to sell, have you found this
    was going to try leitrim and might do if prices dont stack up
    How did you get an with the heifers ,i have a few next week for ballymote.
    I must post a few pictures.


  • #6864
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    so are we all taxed out? income tax due to come out from 15 november, mine hasnt come out yet.... have the princely sum of €12 over the amount of my tax in my account... i am with ub, my dad is with aib and his came out of his account today


  • #6865
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭tanko


    Richk2012 wrote: »
    Got straws off Progressive Tuesday afternoon .

    Was in the yard when they arrived and i got talking to lad who was delivering them , who is also a breeding advisor .

    I got HCA Limo straws for a few maidens . I wanted to use OZS as i used him last year on the heifers and the first one is due tomorrow .

    He told me that his stats have changed and is not at all suitable for heifers as some cows are having difficulties calving his calves .

    All well and good dodging the bullet and not using him this year , but i have a couple of heifers due from tomorrow .
    Any feedback on him ???

    Like all heifers, they will need watching but i wouldnt be overly worried. OZS calves are long but wouldnt have a lot of muscle when born. OZS has a calving difficulty of 7.84 at 97% reliability. Milbrook Dartangan MBP has a cd of 7.98 at 98%. I would consider MBP to be a lot harder calved than OZS.

    Epson EPN has a cd of 6.46 at 99% while Nesquick NSQ has a cd of 6.26 at 99%. Again i'd consider EPN a fair bit harder calved than NSQ.

    These figures arent as accurate as they should be imo.


  • #6866
    jomoloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    had to pay mine last august as I needed a tax clearance cert and the fookers wouldn't issue 'till the tax was paid, my accountant was out sick and his stand in was useless :mad:
    whelan1 wrote: »
    so are we all taxed out? income tax due to come out from 15 november, mine hasnt come out yet.... have the princely sum of €12 over the amount of my tax in my account... i am with ub, my dad is with aib and his came out of his account today


  • #6867
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    i paid 600 per month by dd for preliminary tax made a big difference that i didnt have to sramble for the money, well worth it imo, only downfall is it comes out on the 9th of the month which cant be changed


  • #6868
    bob charles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    whelan1 wrote: »
    so are we all taxed out? income tax due to come out from 15 november, mine hasnt come out yet.... have the princely sum of €12 over the amount of my tax in my account... i am with ub, my dad is with aib and his came out of his account today

    t'would be nice if the Dept of ag paid my leased SFP before their other hand breaks my piggie bank and robs my tax due. fat chance of that


  • #6869
    moy83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Paid mine in sept because I had a few pound gathered , Its a good thing I sorted it then because I havent been paid for any work I've done since then :eek: I'll have a good ould crimbo if everyone pays up before then though .
    Did you make any headway on the bully today Whelan 1


  • #6870
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    moy83 wrote: »
    Paid mine in sept because I had a few pound gathered , Its a good thing I sorted it then because I havent been paid for any work I've done since then :eek: I'll have a good ould crimbo if everyone pays up before then though .
    Did you make any headway on the bully today Whelan 1
    principal wasnt in today, spoke to vice principal, she was brilliant...my husband drops kids to school every morning and he met the bully's mother heading in the gates of school all guns blazing... shehas the opinion that her son is hard done by in all of this:rolleyes: but i am happy to let the school deal with it now.... i have had my say, truth hurts some people


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  • #6871
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    fooking scrapers where out of oil again there when i went to check cows, usual crap of beating the box to get float back up, typical friday night


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