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Not Religious but do Religious things

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    why bother with voluntarily going to mass (and taking up a seat) if it's not something you believe in?

    Why indeed, but I doubt the churches are so packed these days that people are fighting for room on the pews.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Most schools in this country were founded by the church.

    Most hospitals in the country were founded by the church.

    Most rural/urban communities in the country were founded around the church.

    I'm not a practising Catholic but I go to funerals/weddings/christenings and obey the traditions out of respect for my family/friends that are practising Catholics.

    I don't believe in god really, but I don't have blind belief in science either. I think it's good to have some respect for the church because it provided Irish society with a structure.

    You're not really selling your soul to Jesus by attending your friends/family's occasions OP, you're just observing Irish traditions.

    So the catholic church is just a tradition?

    Church bashes can be a humourless lot and a bit dictatorial at times so I take them with a pinch of salt, however I do think it is disrespectfull to use the church for your own convenience or just to go because of cultural reasons.
    I am glad communion is now being see as a parish issue and that parents are expected to take an acative part in church before they have their child make communion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Fcuk tradition, I want absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Catholic church. I gave up on appeasing d'mammy a long time ago, and I refuse to baptise or send any child of mine to a Catholic school.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The other one that make me laugh a bit is the person who is getting married in a church just to please the parents!

    Your are old enough to get married but you are still doing what your parents want/expect of you.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Maxwell Dirty Saliva


    Pretty insulting to the church to carry on like that, taking up seats and services and lying to them about your intentions just for the hell of it.
    No, I don't do any of those things


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    DonLimon wrote: »
    Regardless of your religious beliefs, some aspects of Catholicism are invaluable like Confession and Lent
    Invaluable? How? If you've no religious beliefs, where's the value of instilling and regularly reinforcing feelings of irrational guilt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Speak for yourself there Chief.

    OK?
    Don't we all?!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Cursing language like "Jaaaaaaysus" is the only thing I use or have anything to with religion. I can't consider myself an atheist if I continue any sort of religious traditions or beliefs of any kind because "that's what everyone else does in this country". It's meaningless on a religious and spiritual level to continue it if it's only for tradition.

    It would be like "I'm against Coca-Cola, they're an evil corporation, yadda yadda ya".................................*takes swig out of Deep Riverrock bottle* :pac:

    I've no problem attending mass for weddings or funerals since that's part of that person's tradition and I'm only there to pay respect to them and them alone.

    Beyond that, I don't want anything to do with the church.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭ronan45


    There are no Atheists in Foxholes :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    ronan45 wrote: »
    There are no Atheists in Foxholes :cool:
    Neither are there Elvis impersonators in foxholes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭swimming in a sea


    its a bit of a two way street, the bishops etc know all to well about all the non believers having church weddings, baptisms etc but they pay the bills so they'll turn a blind eye (they're good at that).

    As for me I still have Christian feelings but I just don't like what the catholic church stands for so count me out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    I don't really know what I believe tbh, but I don't go to mass from one end of the year to the other, bar funerals, weddings etc. Cos of that I decided long ago it would be hypocritical to get married in a church. Luckily enough my fiancee feels the same way. My mother was a bit shocked i think, but she has gotten used to the idea now.
    We probably won't get any kids we have baptized. The only thing that was worrying me about that was getting them into schools, but I don't think that will be too much of a problem when the time comes.
    I stopped giving up things for lent a long time ago. If i want to give something up, i will do it when I'm ready, not just at a specific time of year.

    I have no problem though with other people doing things out of tradition more than anything. Whatever keeps you happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    brummytom wrote: »
    I've found myself praying a couple of times when I've been seriously scared/upset, or blessed myself when a hearse drives past. I think that's the essence of religion, a comfort blanket. I did do a double-take and think 'Tom, you don't believe in God...' but fcuk it, covering all bases.
    Yeah but what if God thinks "Y'know what Tom most of the time you ignore me but now you're in trouble you expect my help. Go f**k yourself Tom." He probably thinks that you are kind of like a neighbour that will pop round to borrow some money of you but wouldn't offer you a lift into town if they passed you on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,858 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    endacl wrote: »
    Don't we all?!?
    Check out the word I highlighted in the quoted post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    Do your kids a favour and don't baptise them - let them decide when they are older if they want to join the RCC. I imagine most wont as time goes on.
    I think the practice 2000 years ago was to only baptise older children or adults. It was the RCC that brought in infant baptism, for obvious reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 pcnoobie


    im not religious but i got a tattoo of a cross on my wrist
    probably the most stupid thing ive ever done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    pcnoobie wrote: »
    im not religious but i got a tattoo of a cross on my wrist
    probably the most stupid thing ive ever done

    Tell people it's upside down and you're the anti-christ :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,278 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    endacl wrote: »
    Neither are there Elvis impersonators in foxholes.


    I disagree for the simple reason that they're all shook up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    Do your kids a favour and don't baptise them - let them decide when they are older if they want to join the RCC. I imagine most wont as time goes on.
    I think the practice 2000 years ago was to only baptise older children or adults. It was the RCC that brought in infant baptism, for obvious reasons.

    "Get em young" being the church's unofficial motto, both in the figurative and literal sense.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,392 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Does missionary position count?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭McTigs


    I cannot understand how people can be so blasé about the RCC in this country with all we know now. I honest cannot fathom how anyone wants anything to do with it. There influence of education and legislation and their general mindfcuk over their congregations has done more damage to this country than any empire ever did. And as long as there are people like the OP, they will continue to have that influence

    As for baptising your children when you don't actually believe in it yourself, that is just plain ****ing ridiculous. For those who put forward the schooling arguement, as long as people go along with it the longer the stupid system remains in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    krudler wrote: »
    "Get em young" being the church's unofficial motto, both in the figurative and literal sense.

    As per one of the funnies I saw recently: "Religion is like circumcision. Wait till they're 21 and they won't be as interested"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Davyhal


    I'm the same as the OP, and my mates find it very odd (young gay man here, don't exactly live life on the path of a true Catholic), but I always do many old Catholic things... i.e. Bless myself when passing an ambulance/hearse/church, watch how I am acting/saying when passing priests/nuns, pray in times of crisis... I do at not only to "cover all bases" as that is a bit redundant considering the way I live the rest of my life, but I also do it out of respect for others in society who do still hold the Catholic Church in high esteem... I respect that others believe strongly in Catholic traditions and have consideration for that. For example, when one of my friends passed away there a few years ago in car accident, we all went to the funeral. I took offense on behalf of the family that some of my friends wore baseball caps in the Church and spoke during the mass etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Gotham


    Like OP, I grew up in the same scenario.

    However, currently I refuse to do anything religious with very few exceptions:
    I will attend weddings, I attend funerals only in the graveyard (reluctantly), and I buy presents at christmas.

    I will not: attend christenings, mass (at any time), pray and I do my best to avoid events and organizations affiliated with churches or religions.
    My wish upon death is to have the cheapest, no frills funeral - with absolutely no religious overtones. Something that will probably not be possible in Ireland.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    McTigs wrote: »
    I cannot understand how people can be so blasé about the RCC in this country with all we know now. I honest cannot fathom how anyone wants anything to do with it. There influence of education and legislation and their general mindfcuk over their congregations has done more damage to this country than any empire ever did. And as long as there are people like the OP, they will continue to have that influence

    As for baptising your children when you don't actually believe in it yourself, that is just plain ****ing ridiculous. For those who put forward the schooling arguement, as long as people go along with it the longer the stupid system remains in place.

    Yea, my sis did it with her wee ones & I even was GF to one of them. I was internally raging but feck it, it's just a ceremony. The wife and I got married in a Shinto ceremony and that was lovely, despite the fact that we are not religious.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    endacl wrote: »
    Neither are there Elvis impersonators in foxholes.

    ‘The number of Elvies Presley impersonators has reached an all-time record high – there are now at least 85,000 Elvis’s around the world, compared to only 170 in 1957 when he died. At this rate of growth, experts predict that by 2019 Elvis impersonators will make up a third of the world population.’


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    I don't have blind belief in science

    But, one doesn't believe in science. There is no faith involved. Science deals solely in proven facts, and should just be "accepted", for want of a better phrase.

    As for the OPs question: Was raised with no religion. Have gone to weddings/funerals in chuches of numerous denominations (Catholic ones freak me out the most- you turn around and everyone is sucking their thumb? Can I ask what that is about?). That's about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    ‘The number of Elvies Presley impersonators has reached an all-time record high – there are now at least 85,000 Elvis’s around the world, compared to only 170 in 1957 when he died. At this rate of growth, experts predict that by 2019 Elvis impersonators will make up a third of the world population.’
    That. Will. Be. So. Cool!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Religous events and traditions came from old traditions and are continued on through tradition so you can get married without believing in a god.


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