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Farming Chit Chat

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  • #6662
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    What kind of cows have you Reilig? Were they all by AI or bull?


  • #6663
    GoodMan55985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭GoodMan55985


    reilig wrote: »
    CH Bull 395kg Eur 1220
    BB Bull 360kg Eur 1185
    BB Bull 340kg Eur 1040
    BB Heifer 340kg Eur 970
    BB Heifer 320kg Eur 955

    I know people who feed a lot more than me and get a lot less per head on average. Some people even feed meal to suckler cows - and not as a supplementary ration!!

    Rellig do mind me asking you said you sold at the weekend, was that in Dowra. Also about people feeding more than you do and getting a lot less, what in your opinion are they doing wrong? Is it cows they have, grassland management. Just trying to improve my weanlings for sale at end of the year so interested on your thoughts since you getting top prices. thanks


  • #6664
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    reilig wrote: »
    CH Bull 395kg Eur 1220
    BB Bull 360kg Eur 1185
    BB Bull 340kg Eur 1040
    BB Heifer 340kg Eur 970
    BB Heifer 320kg Eur 955

    If you bring unfed BB's to the mart you'll get feck all for them.

    At the end of the day its not all about what you get for them, its how much they cost you to get them to that stage. I know people who feed a lot more than me and get a lot less per head on average. Some people even feed meal to suckler cows - and not as a supplementary ration!!

    You also have to produce animals for the market that you intend selling into and take the good years with the bad!!
    jasus just realised they apr may calves thats some goin!!! u well over €3 a kg on some there we'l be happy with 2.40 -2.50!!


  • #6665
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    pakalasa wrote: »
    What kind of cows have you Reilig? Were they all by AI or bull?

    Kind of doing a little experiment at the moment with my wife's herd. She has 7 pedigree limousin cows - all carefully chosen to come from a line of milk. All calves were off ai - easy calving bulls, mostly sfl. We are thinking about moving a good proportion of the cows to pedigree, but will have to wait to see how finances work out. The CH calf was off a stock bull - we just couldn't get the cow to hold to ai - she was supposed to be an autumn calver ;)


  • #6666
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    anyone notice a serious amount of people on this forum the last few days? last night at one stage there was over 150 people, 45 of them registered:confused:


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  • #6667
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    whelan1 wrote: »
    anyone notice a serious amount of people on this forum the last few days? last night at one stage there was over 150 people, 45 of them registered:confused:
    I noticed that alright. That's you and your Chit Chat...:D


  • #6668
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Its the place to be!


  • #6669
    GoodMan55985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭GoodMan55985


    whelan1 wrote: »
    anyone notice a serious amount of people on this forum the last few days? last night at one stage there was over 150 people, 45 of them registered:confused:

    I suppose it shows good for the forum, lots of people happy with advice given and received on farming issues. Maybe more people are talking about the forum to farmers they know and they joining up in turn. Noticed a lot of new users registered in the last month or two :)


  • #6670
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    GoodMan55985 wrote: »
    Rellig do mind me asking you said you sold at the weekend, was that in Dowra. Also about people feeding more than you do and getting a lot less, what in your opinion are they doing wrong? Is it cows they have, grassland management. Just trying to improve my weanlings for sale at end of the year so interested on your thoughts since you getting top prices. thanks

    Calves were advertised on the IFJ last thursday and the buyer came on saturday. We weighed them and he offered individual prices. Then we did a bit of haggling :D

    The guy mentioned above who sold in Ballybay is a typical example of getting less in return. Muckit mentioned above about the difference between export and pride. Certainly there is a big difference, however you need to have pride in what you do in order to get the best return. You need to keep the best cows that you can, have the best grassland management system that you can, dose the best that you can and ultimately produce the best animals that you can. I feed meal because I feel that it gives a great return - not just in pride, but money in my pocket. I'm forward feeding calves on grass through a creep gate. I'm making sure that most cows have a good body condition score before they are housed so that they don't have to be fed meal on the slats.

    What are people doing wrong? They are not interested in making money - instead they are happy to raise calves and sell them for less than they cost to raise. Many people on this forum don't agree with me, but its the truth.

    A lot of small things done right will help to improve profits. You don't have to be selling calves at big prices to be making a profit if you have low costs for keeping cows.

    I'm no expert, nor does getting a good price for a few calves make me one. I'm doing my own thing. I have to learn, sometimes I have to fail to learn, sometimes things will work out and I'll follow that line.


  • #6671
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    GoodMan55985 wrote: »
    Noticed a lot of new users registered in the last month or two :)

    And a couple coming back to us with new usernames ;)


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  • #6672
    ABlur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 837 ✭✭✭ABlur


    whelan1 wrote: »
    anyone notice a serious amount of people on this forum the last few days? last night at one stage there was over 150 people, 45 of them registered:confused:

    Its the long winter nights what else can you do?!


  • #6673
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    reilig wrote: »

    CH Bull 395kg Eur 1220
    BB Bull 360kg Eur 1185
    BB Bull 340kg Eur 1040
    BB Heifer 340kg Eur 970
    BB Heifer 320kg Eur 955
    seriously good weight gain, particularly for the year that was in it. an average of around 1.45kg/day :)


  • #6674
    adne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭adne


    reilig wrote: »
    €20 is 2 bags of weinling crunch @ €10 per bag - 50kg of meal :o

    I had my weinlings in bunches of 8 and they were getting 1 full bag (25kg per day).

    I am feeding for export though - all are BB or CH.

    How long did you feed them at this rate reilig?


  • #6675
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    adne wrote: »
    How long did you feed them at this rate reilig?

    From about 20 september to last week. They were weined at that date because ground was wet and cows were doing a lot of poaching. The calves then had full access to good grass after this. Weining early definitely paid this year (for me).


  • #6676
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Reilig
    Have you weighed the cows?


  • #6677
    Bizzum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    reilig wrote: »
    You need to keep the best cows that you can, have the best grassland management system that you can, dose the best that you can and ultimately produce the best animals that you can. I feed meal because I feel that it gives a great return - not just in pride, but money in my pocket. I'm forward feeding calves on grass through a creep gate. I'm making sure that most cows have a good body condition score before they are housed so that they don't have to be fed meal on the slats..

    Much the same with ourselves.
    A bad one, be it cow or calf, will eat as much as a good one. A weanling particularly a bull calf will benefit from meal. Some lads go over the top and feed middling calves high levels of ration in an effort to boost weight gain, and cover any deficiency, quality wise the calf may have. We all see them up and down, weanlings nearly fit to kill coming off cows.
    Our own Chx weanlings tend to be big growthy heavy calves with nice shape(thats the aim anyway!) they need the bit of ration to reach their potential, but I think they do perform well on it.


  • #6678
    Bizzum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    whelan1 wrote: »
    anyone notice a serious amount of people on this forum the last few days? last night at one stage there was over 150 people, 45 of them registered:confused:

    I noticed that myself. I wondered had it anything to do with lads being logged on via smartphones the whole time?


  • #6679
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    Bizzum wrote: »
    I noticed that myself. I wondered had it anything to do with lads being logged on via smartphones the whole time?

    No need to be supprised. It has everything a geek farmer needs.
    Close to DoneDeal, pictures of savage stock, tractor talk, machinery talk, lads with experience of all sectors of farming willing to share their experience.
    All we need is a lonley hearts matchmaker thread and were set. Maybe Whelan could kick that off too :);)


  • #6680
    poor farmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭poor farmer


    bbam wrote: »
    No need to be supprised. It has everything a geek farmer needs.
    Close to DoneDeal, pictures of savage stock, tractor talk, machinery talk, lads with experience of all sectors of farming willing to share their experience.
    All we need is a lonley hearts matchmaker thread and were set. Maybe Whelan could kick that off too :);)

    What about an agony aunt


  • #6681
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    poor farmer wrote: »
    What about an agony aunt
    dear frankie ( for anyone who is old enough to remember:D)


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  • #6682
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    was in big pet shop last night, €7.99 for 4kg bag of straw:eek::eek: €6.99 for a 4kg bag of sawdust..... think it would be a good line of business to go in to


  • #6683
    redzerologhlen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    On the phone all morning pricing troughs and gates. Have a 550 gallon concrete trough coming from wexford and 2 traditional style burren gates in the post now...€870 poorer too :(


  • #6684
    JohnBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    What's a burren style gate?


  • #6685
    redzerologhlen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    JohnBoy wrote: »
    What's a burren style gate?

    Scroll down through the link to where it says download pics of gate, sorry I dont know how to attach it.

    http://www.burrenlife.com/phase-ii-resources.php


  • #6686
    JohnBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    Ahh, nice, I likes a good gate.


  • #6687
    redzerologhlen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    JohnBoy wrote: »
    Ahh, nice, I likes a good gate.

    They are nice alright, €200 a pop for 10ft's with posts so they werent too dear either.


  • #6688
    JohnBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    No, that's not too shabby for something that's probably not being mass produced by someone like gibneys.


  • #6689
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    was at the mart there now, serious difference in the meal fed weanlings and those that arent, i thought under the scws weanlings are to be fed meal before weaning:confused:


  • #6690
    Black Smoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭Black Smoke


    whelan1 wrote: »
    was at the mart there now, serious difference in the meal fed weanlings and those that arent, i thought under the scws weanlings are to be fed meal before weaning:confused:

    You would be surprised, how many SCWS calves, come into the marts, which have not even been weaned, not to mention fed meal. :confused:


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  • #6691
    leg wax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    whelan1 wrote: »
    was at the mart there now, serious difference in the meal fed weanlings and those that arent, i thought under the scws weanlings are to be fed meal before weaning:confused:
    20 euros of meal is the new way to save and make money, only joking lads.:D


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