Pronounciation

Míshásta · 08-11-2012 01:04PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I pronounce lieutenant with a 'loo'. At least I think I do. I can't remember ever needing to actually say the word.

Why can't Americans pronounce David Bowie properly? It's 'bow' as in bow tie or bow and arrow, not 'boo' as in the sound a ghost makes. He called himself Bowie after seeing Jim Bowie being depicted in the film Battle Of The Alamo. The Bowie knife is named after Jim Bowie, and Americans don't seem to have a problem pronouncing that.

The Beatles called their record label Apple Corps. I didn't get the joke until I discovered how marine corps was pronounced.

You pronounce 'Lieutenant' the American way (presumably because of the influence of TV) - yet you criticise their pronunciation of another word.

Míshásta · 08-11-2012 01:11PM

Captain Graphite wrote: »

Anyone who pronounces the word scone as "sconn" is instantly on my list of enemies. :mad: It's pronounced "scoan" - it rhymes with bone, lone, drone etc.

I've never been to Scotland, I think I'd just want to kill everyone over there for pronouncing it in that horrible way.

Catholics used to say 'scoan' - Protestasnts:'scon'

Now people who wish to appear sophisticated say 'scon'

Same as in the evolution of the dish: 'sweet' to 'dessert' to 'pudding'

It's not only your pronunciation but your vocabulary that defines who you are in society.

Míshásta · 08-11-2012 01:13PM

flutterflye wrote: »

Awkward.
It reeeeaaally annoys my husband when someone says orkward.
So many people do though.

Ah shur! 'tis a really awkward word to pronounce.

Míshásta · 08-11-2012 01:43PM

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Omni Park as Ominny Park

Firhouse as Furhouse

Yes, but isn't 'furhouse' the natural pronunciation of many of the residents in their south Dublin accent.

"Furhouse" but "my Fircoat"

hardCopy · 08-11-2012 01:48PM

Ornge. That one really grinds my gears.

Míshásta · 08-11-2012 01:49PM

BizzyC wrote: »

Ferarri vs. "Frarri"

Or Niché
hate when people say "nitch"

hate when people spell "Niche" as "Niché"

De Hipster · 08-11-2012 02:02PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Do people think they are apposed supposed to pronounce the 't' in the word 'often'?

THIS is my bugbear - of[t]en people!

Jev/N · 08-11-2012 02:05PM

Apparently Nutella is New-tell-uh ... nut-jobs!

Baby4 · 08-11-2012 02:54PM

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HowAreWe · 08-11-2012 03:17PM

people saying thought instead of taught.....

Ush1 · 08-11-2012 03:20PM

I say Mal-dron but herself thinks I'm not sayin' it right.

She says Maul-dron.

marcsignal · 08-11-2012 03:26PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Oh and another RTE gripe here. I'm not a fan of how they say Gardai.

It's like Gwor-dee. They're working a 'W' in there somehow and I just dont like it I tells ya!

Its possibly the proper pronunciation of the word in some regions though? I'm open to criticism on that.

That's just a D4 thing that many RTE & TV3 newsreaders suffer from. They get their O's and A's mixed up.

eg:

"Gardai arrested a man in Temple Bar last night, after an altercation between a marketing student and a charity worker, underneath the archway beside the Central Bank. One of the Guards suffered a fractured jaw in the incident, and the marketing student was further charged with damaging Government property, after he vomited all over the inside of the Garda patrol car."

Or as Brian Dobson or Alan Cantwell would say:

"Gordai arrested a man in Temple Bor last night, after an oltercation between a morketing student and a chority worker, underneath the orchway beside the Central Bank. One of the Goards suffered a fractured jow in the incident, and the morketing student was further chorged with damaging Government property, after he vomited all over the inside of the Gorda patrol cor."

08-11-2012 04:10PM

Always hated how people in a lot of other counties pronounce Galway.

To a local it sounds like ''Gaw-l-way(Gaulway)''.
The outsider version is more like the spelling ''Gal-way'' same way you'd say gal in realtion to girl ''gal pal''

THERES A SILENT U IN GALWAY :mad:

:pac:

Yer_Wan · 08-11-2012 04:55PM

sophieblake wrote: »

I like the way you sign your name Hugo Brady Brown

I don't.

The King of Moo · 08-11-2012 05:57PM

Jev/N wrote: »

Apparently Nutella is New-tell-uh ... nut-jobs!

There may be some influence there from Italy where Nutella's insanely popular and probably mentioned more frequently than in other countries.

There they pronounce it similarly, like "noo-tella," owing to the pronunciation standards of the Italian language. They struggle with the short "u" sounds that they don't have in Italian, so they read "books" (pronounced phonetically) and play "regby."

Ush1 wrote: »

I say Mal-dron but herself thinks I'm not sayin' it right.

She says Maul-dron.

That would be the accepted pronunciation, though I can't imagine anyone would misunderstand you if you pronounced it your way, so it's no big deal.

Míshásta · 08-11-2012 06:59PM

Baby4 wrote: »

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AFAIK, 'agin' is a non-standard dialect version of 'against'. I wouldn't call it incorrect in normal informal speech.

sethasaurus · 08-11-2012 07:14PM

The irony is that it's actually impossible to tell if the OP was taking the piss by headlining the thread with 'Pronounciation".

There are all the unintelligible 'blurps' emitted by various skangers on the street.

I'm not sure what "thigh food" is, but I know Thai food.

Then there's "da cat", "d' dog", "dem'" and "dat" and "dere", "heighth", "yous" and "yiz".

One that really makes me cringe is "I seen", "He seen", "She seen", etc.

You might expect it from your 5-year-old: "Ma, I seen a monkey!".

Also, what is the point of clocks in Ireland? Nobody here seems to know what they're for..

sethasaurus · 08-11-2012 07:19PM

Míshásta wrote: »

Catholics used to say 'scoan' - Protestasnts:'scon'

Now people who wish to appear sophisticated say 'scon'

Same as in the evolution of the dish: 'sweet' to 'dessert' to 'pudding'

It's not only your pronunciation but your vocabulary that defines who you are in society.

Scone has always been 'scon'. Are you lot on drugs?
Too bad you're all too stubborn to learn actual English. I don't believe an English English teacher would last 5 minutes in the Irish school system.

Register is more definitive than vocabulary.

The King of Moo · 08-11-2012 08:00PM

sethasaurus wrote: »

The irony is that it's actually impossible to tell if the OP was taking the piss by headlining the thread with 'Pronounciation".

There are all the unintelligible 'blurps' emitted by various skangers on the street.

They were intelligible enough for you to decipher them.

sethasaurus wrote: »

I'm not sure what "thigh food" is, but I know Thai food.

I really don't get the apparent outrage this pronunciation seems to generate. It's such an understandable mistake to make. "Thailand" and its derivatives are words more read than spoken, and its pronunciation goes against the standard pronunciation of "Th." It's no surprise that most people pronounce it phonetically. I myself know how it's supposed to be pronounced, but have to make a conscious effort to do so due to only hearing it pronounced phonetically as a youth, except for on American television.

jingler · 08-11-2012 09:46PM

Leeedle or Liddle?

The King of Moo · 08-11-2012 10:01PM

jingler wrote: »

Leeedle or Liddle?

"Leedle" is the original German pronunciation (notice how they use it in their ads), but no-one would bat an eyelid at pronouncing it phonetically.

stoneill · 10-11-2012 03:29PM

Jev/N wrote: »

Apparently Nutella is New-tell-uh ... nut-jobs!

That just noots!

Wacker The Attacker · 10-11-2012 03:59PM

City is not Cissy

Traitor is not Tracer

Growth is neither gross nor growf.

There are hundreds of other examples of words that are constantly mispronounced and it can lead to confusion in certain circumstances.

Wacker The Attacker · 10-11-2012 04:00PM

jingler wrote: »

Leeedle or Liddle?

Aldi or Alldi

10-11-2012 04:07PM

I don't get the different pronounciations with scone. It's sc-own, not scon. I mean think about it, you don't pronounce stone ston, then why should scone be scon?

10-11-2012 04:11PM

mauzo wrote: »

Yeah, I don't say it often obviously, but when I do I get annoyed. I just don't know how to say it...

I also call a dressing gown a house coat. I'm the only person I know that does this.

IM NOT ALONE

dxhound2005 · 10-11-2012 04:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't get the different pronounciations with scone. It's sc-own, not scon. I mean think about it, you don't pronounce stone ston, then why should scone be scon?

All -one endings are not pronounced the same. You have bone and cone but then done and gone. So why should scone not be pronounced to rhyme with gone?

emsie80 · 10-11-2012 04:34PM

its prob alreay been posted. I cannot stand when someone says HOS-TI-BAL!!! Its feckin HOSPITAL!! arrgggghhhhh

longshanks · 10-11-2012 04:57PM

Vincent Van Gogh

Van Goff
Van Go
Van Gock

TeletextPear · 10-11-2012 05:04PM

flutterflye wrote: »

I hate when people put more importance on the wrong word/syllable if you know what I mean?
Like saying ice-CREAM instead of ICE-cream.
I'm not sure how to explain it well, but people do it with all sorts of words and it bugs the sh1t out of me.

Yes, English people do this a lot. Sausage ROLL, etc

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