Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

Deleted User wrote: »

Then why not take a punt on someone new?

The point I'm making it I can't see who would come in and improve things overall. Yeah sure they may be better then Arsene at certain aspects of the job but overall I don't see someone coming in and immediately winning trophies.

Look at Martin O' Neill, he's generally considered a great man manager who gets the most out of his players, yet Sunderland haven't won in something like 17 games(?).

Deleted User wrote: »

Out of the last 5 matches the Reading one is the only one we showed any balls and it was after going 4-0 down.

no balls in the QPR game ?

i don't think the dip in form has much to do with balls or the lack of them but more to do with performances on the pitch.

Our dip in form coincides with Santos being brought into the team. As well as being an inferior player to Gibbs in every respect, his introduction has also seen Podolski suffer a dip in form. This has put too much pressure on Cazorla to perform and he's not coped well with being the sole creative output.

Relying on Diaby has proved unwise too. His performances at the start of the season were very impressive and we have no one else who can provide that drive and power from midfield. AW should not have relied on him for such a pivotal role and maybe M'Vila should have been brought in.

Theres no wingers in the squad like a bale or a valenica so scrap this 4-3-3.
Play a midfield diamond with wilshere & diaby tucked in, one of the forwards will be a pacy player like walcott, gervinho or chamberlain will be backup for him. Giroud will be backup for podolski, rosicky or arshavin will be back up for cazorla.
I know people will say theres no width in this team but players like ramsey on the right or podolski or gervinho on the left wing are not offering much anyway so you may as well flood the midfield & make yourself harder to break down.

Well that performance yesterday was exactly what I thought was going to happen, Ive had to listen to Uniteds fans gloating and for once I have no response no positive angle to lean towards all I can do is shrug my shoulders and admit they played us off the park and we were a second rate team compared to them.

Ive tried my best to remain postive this year but that is slowly being beaten out of me as an Arsenal fan. Our failings have to fall on the managment and coaching staff we have quality players littered throughout the squad, two experienced German international players who get games in a squad littered with talented players, Sagna a top drawer Rb, Wilshere the great English hope, Cazorla a player with some fifty caps in a Spanish team that has arguably the best talent pool of midfield players in living memory, Chamberlain and Gnabry two very exciting prospects, Walcott who despite his flaws chips in with plenty of assists and goals, Scez who in my opinion is a very good keeper now and can become one the best around, Diaby a sicknote yes but when fit a proper powerhouse of a player, Giroud despite his struggles to me look like he could be a top centre forward for us but is recieiving basically no service while trying to adapt to a new league and team, then throw into the mix Frimpong, Coquelin, Jenkinson all talented young players who an do a good job and Gibbs who is a solid defender when hes fit.

When you look thtough that squad you think we have a solid talented team that should be doing a lot better not rolling over to teams like Schalke, United, Chelsea etc looking toothles in attack and a shambles in defence at times and struggling looking inept against teams like Norwich. For me this falls firmly at the feet of managment for lack of tactical nous and failing to moitvate the players to go out be proud and fight for the jersey on there backs. Yes we have lost some amazing players but we should not let that cloud our judgment we still have a strong squad who given its sum of parts should be and is more than capable of putting in better performances than what weve become accustomed to seeing. Time for changes only so much us as fans can watch this great club fall further and further down the pecking order to become also rans of the league and Europe, teams no longer fear us we need new ideas, new tactics someone to motivate the players.

Sorry for the long winded rant .

Everybody in the pub today laughing/ giving out about santos and the jersey ****e, and it is a fcuking joke wenger should kick his arse publicly :mad:

It surprised me to hear that we're doing worse than this time last year. Is that just in terms of points gained?
Because I'm fairly certain we're closer to the top four now than we were this time last season (and with a better goal difference).
It's one thing to say we've less points than at this point last season, but as they say you're only as good as those around you. It's a much tighter league this season than last year. Your league position is far more important than your points total.

Galvasean wrote: »

It surprised me to hear that we're doing worse than this time last year. Is that just in terms of points gained?
Because I'm fairly certain we're closer to the top four now than we were this time last season (and with a better goal difference).
It's one thing to say we've less points than at this point last season, but as they say you're only as good as those around you. It's a much tighter league this season than last year. Your league position is far more important than your points total.

speaking of that, this is the league games the rest of the month

fulham (H) level on points with them
tottenham (H) 2pts behind these clowns
a.villa (A)
everton (A) 2pts behind also

time to start winning matches

emergingstar wrote: »

Yeah we're worse off points wise, still think we're better off team wise if that makes Any sense at all

That's what I was trying to get at in my last post. While we are playing poorly right now we aren't as bad as this time last year IMO. We were a massive disgrace last year (as opposed to the regular sized disgrace we are right now).

emergingstar wrote: »

Yeah we're worse off points wise, still think we're better off team wise if that makes Any sense at all

I think we are better off this year too. In a bit of a slump but they will turn it around. I'd love if we sold Walcott in January and spend some decent money on a proper winger who could cross the ball. I think one very good winger and the goals could start flowing again

tayto lover wrote: »

We are maybe worse off this season if you consider that we have nobody in the caliber of RVP to bang in 30 plus goals. We are finding it hard to supply Giroud who will be good but might need the whole season to adjust. RVP saved our season last year but who is going to do it this year? That's the difference.

I'm not so sure. I mean obviously RvP is a player who would improve any team, but we had him at this point last still season and still shipped 8 and 4 against United and Blackburn respectively. As a whole the team are getting more goals between them now where last season we were way too reliant on RvP to score. If RvP had a bad day at the office we were pretty much screwed.
Walcott was our 2nd highest goalscorer in all competitions last season with 11. He's got 7 already this season. After that it's Benayoun, Arteta and Vermaelen with 6 a piece. This season though we are spreading the goals around the squad better. For example, Chamakh has doubled his tally (2 as opposed to 1), while Gervinho has beaten his tally for last year (4/5).

Anybody know what song the Arsenal fans where singing at Gazidas?

tayto lover wrote: »

I wonder how Ferguson would have felt and acted if for instance Cleverly went and asked for Arteta's shirt at half-time?
In my opinion he would have shoved the hairdryer down his throat and he'd be out of the club on Monday.

As for the people who say it's nothing serious as they were friends at Arsenal.
It is very serious in my opinion. It's grovelling and arse-licking and admitting that their players are better than you are, even before the game is over. It's defeatist and unbecoming a player from a once great club like Arsenal. It is part and parcel of the lack of mental conditioning at Arsenal in the last number of years. Could anyone imagine Adams or Keown going to Beckham at half-time to get his shirt?

Do your swapping after the final whistle if you have to do it.

As much as I hate Roy Keane, he had the right idea when he was talking about shirt swapping. His arguement was he'd rather have a collection of medals than a collection of shirts. I dont agree with him on much but he was spot on there. Fcuk swapping shirts at all, even after the game has ended.

It wont happen but if I were in charge, Santos would be in the reserves and sold ASAP. See how much he likes his shirt collection when he's playing reserve team football.