Hauled off Ryanair flight over a poster..

IrishExpat · 04-11-2012 01:19PM

professore wrote: »

Have you ever "queued" in Spain for anything? It's every man for himself.

This I can vouch for. I was 'far' too polite in my first months living there.

And slightly off topic; the footpath blocking phenomena the Irish have to endure in the Summer months really is part of their cultural makeup.

Walking along at a brief pace, possibly with a drink in hand and they will quite literally STOP dead in their tracks without warning or reason - take in the scene and walk on again. Never seen anything like it outside of Spain.

MaxSteele · 04-11-2012 01:19PM

She was kicked off for being a c*nt from what I can see.

Turtyturd · 04-11-2012 01:20PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

unroll poster fold in half and roll up again

iron out the crease later

Unfold poster, wrap around leg, attempt to walk awkwardly, get charged 51 euro by Ryanair for needing a wheelchair to get to plane.

Stheno · 04-11-2012 01:24PM

IrishExpat wrote: »

I have personally seen Ryanair staff (Dublin-Madrid flight) man-handle a hysterical, elderly Italian lady, as she was trying to board with carry-on luggage less than a half kilo over limit. They only stopped when they realized a number of passengers whip out the smartphones to record the event.

Yes, they have a job to do, and unless they receive a bonus or some sort for catching the slightly over-weight bags; I can not understand the delight they find in this part of the job.

In the interest of variety; any past or current Ryanair staff on Boards?

It's been posted quite regularly in Ryanair threads that the ground staff do get bonus/commission for overweight/excess luggage that they check in?

Xavi6 · 04-11-2012 01:24PM

The Ryanair bashing is boring at this stage.

She didn't play by the rules and was dealt with accordingly. I for one like seeing a company take no bullshit from people who think they can take liberties when they like.

juan.kerr · 04-11-2012 01:25PM

Did she even have a ticket / boarding card for the flight?

Arpa · 04-11-2012 01:30PM

IrishExpat wrote: »

This I can vouch for. I was 'far' too polite in my first months living there.

And slightly off topic; the footpath blocking phenomena the Irish have to endure in the Summer months really is part of their cultural makeup.

Walking along at a brief pace, possibly with a drink in hand and they will quite literally STOP dead in their tracks without warning or reason - take in the scene and walk on again. Never seen anything like it outside of Spain.

Great point, I'm tired of seeing the hoardes of Spanish/Italian students barging their way through the city. When they're waiting for the bus they all rush when the driver opens the doors at one stage pushing elderly people aside. The Europeans are cnuts for this. Think of a time when you've been on an underground system in a European capital...you can't be a wallflower.

Yesterday getting off Luas at Jervis and a group of adult Italians pushed towards the door before people could alight. I pushed straight through the crowd and in my best Italian told them, "Wait till we get off you ignorant thicks".

There's no respect. While in Belgium once with my ex Belgian gf, I stood up on the bus to let an old woman sit down. She was very pleased but I got stares from everyone else on the bus. The lady said something to my ex in Flemish. When I asked what she said it was, "He's not from Belgium is he?"

We are just too nice really...maybe we have to be more cnutish. Sorry way off topic but in a way related. I was thinking as I watched that video...how many Irish people would have piped up and shouted at the police if it had been an irish woman being removed from the plane. Granted most people may not have given a damn, but I can bet that even if people thought an injustice was being done, they would remain sheepish and read their little plastic menu card thing.

Zebra3 · 04-11-2012 01:34PM

IrishExpat wrote: »

I have personally seen Ryanair staff (Dublin-Madrid flight) man-handle a hysterical, elderly Italian lady, as she was trying to board with carry-on luggage less than a half kilo over limit.

There ya go....

StankyStevie · 04-11-2012 01:36PM

So, what's your point OP?
I see nothing wrong in the airlines actions.
Fair play I say.

04-11-2012 01:38PM

IrishExpat wrote: »

I have personally seen Ryanair staff (Dublin-Madrid flight) man-handle a hysterical, elderly Italian lady, as she was trying to board with carry-on luggage less than a half kilo over limit. They only stopped when they realized a number of passengers whip out the smartphones to record the event.

Yes, they have a job to do, and unless they receive a bonus or some sort for catching the slightly over-weight bags; I can not understand the delight they find in this part of the job.

In the interest of variety; any past or current Ryanair staff on Boards?

What are they supposed to do when someone is hysterical?

juan.kerr · 04-11-2012 01:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What are they supposed to do when someone is hysterical?

Vulcan nerve pinch?

IrishExpat · 04-11-2012 01:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What are they supposed to do when someone is hysterical?

Differentiate between a) profit and b) being a cnut?

jam_mac_jam · 04-11-2012 01:41PM

I think its a great rule, I have been on flights where people are ramming over sized bags into the overhead luggage holders and its dangerous. Its much better on a ryanair flight where you have to take normal sized bags.

juan.kerr · 04-11-2012 01:41PM

IrishExpat wrote: »

Differentiate between a) profit and b) being a cnut?

So if I act hysterical I can break / ignore any rule I like? Sets a great precedent.

Sonics2k · 04-11-2012 01:44PM

Air hostesses are totally comparable to the Nazi's.

Remmy · 04-11-2012 01:45PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

Air hostesses are totally comparable to the Nazi's.

hot nazi's with nice uniforms..ok lets not use the nazi comparison.

SNNUS · 04-11-2012 01:51PM

1 piece of hand luggage, stated when you purchase a ticket and also they send you an email prior to your flight stating this, If everyone brings a suitcase, another bag and a precious poster then the aircraft would never get off the ground with the baggage bins jammed!. I don't know why these stories make it in the news, she broke the rules and also pushed through the gate to get to the aircraft. No sympathy for the woman, rules are rules for a reason.

blindsider · 04-11-2012 01:53PM

jay-me wrote: »

Ryanair defended its actions by claiming the woman had become disruptive and had "pushed past" its gate agents without showing any ID or her boarding card.

So the woman was allowed to board without showing ID or card? Seriously? So she could conceivably have boarded the flight, dropped a small incendiary device on the floor, allowed herself to be taken off the flight, and then waited for the results.

Hmmmm. Doesn't stack up IMO.

If it's true, then Ryanair were in serious breach of security procedures. If someone 'pushed past' the gate agents I'd expect red lights and sirens within seconds. Did a Gate Agent not follow her?

Also, she actually boarded the plane - there's always someone at the entrance/top of the steps checking boarding passes and they are in contact with the Gate - would she not have been stopped there?

My money is on Ryanair diverting attention from the truth.

I don't especially like Ryanair, but I agree that their regulations are clearly indicated - and if you choose to fly Ryanair then you take your chances.

In theory, Ryanair are correct - the poster didn't fit in her luggage - I'd just prefer if they owned up to being absolutely inflexible and unforgiving re their T's & C's - most of us know it anyway, so why not just admit it?

juan.kerr · 04-11-2012 01:56PM

blindsider wrote: »

So the woman was allowed to board without showing ID or card? Seriously? So she could conceivably have boarded the flight, dropped a small incendiary device on the floor, allowed herself to be taken off the flight, and then waited for the results.

Hmmmm. Doesn't stack up IMO.

If it's true, then Ryanair were in serious breach of security procedures. If someone 'pushed past' the gate agents I'd expect red lights and sirens within seconds. Did a Gate Agent not follow her?

Also, she actually boarded the plane - there's always someone at the entrance/top of the steps checking boarding passes and they are in contact with the Gate - would she not have been stopped there?

My money is on Ryanair diverting attention from the truth.

I don't especially like Ryanair, but I agree that their regulations are clearly indicated - and if you choose to fly Ryanair then you take your chances.

In theory, Ryanair are correct - the poster didn't fit in her luggage - I'd just prefer if they owned up to being absolutely inflexible and unforgiving re their T's & C's - most of us know it anyway, so why not just admit it?

Admit what exactly? I don't see anything in your post to suggest Ryanair are the ones not telling the truth.

Death and Taxes · 04-11-2012 02:11PM

jay-me wrote: »

A Ryanair passenger was hauled off a plane by police after she pleaded to be allowed board with a book and a rolled-up poster that would not fit in her hand luggage.

She was told the two items were not the correct type of luggage and this meant she could not take her seat on the plane that was boarding at Manises Airport in Valencia.

It was reported that the flight crew told the woman to check in the items at a cost of €50. Passengers said the woman told the crew her credit card was not working and could not pay the additional charge.

The subsequent scene, which was filmed and posted on the internet, saw police officers eventually board the plane and take the Spanish-speaking woman back to the airport.

This was followed by shouts of support from other passengers who had already taken their seats.

Ryanair defended its actions by claiming the woman had become disruptive and had "pushed past" its gate agents without showing any ID or her boarding card.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/woman-hauled-off-ryanair-jet-by-police-after-luggage-row-212730.html

Ryainair would make you sick! She should have folded the poster or something.. The Nazi Generals at the boarding gate are obviously on a commission for every journey they ruin. I have brought stuff that was of a similar size on Ryanair. I just did a better job of disguising it while I boarded.

I suppose thats why they are the most succesful airline in the world with over 80,000,000 passenger journeys a year.
Truth is people love to complain about Ryanair but they still fly with them.

opinionated3 · 04-11-2012 02:21PM

What a crap airline. Hate them with a passion. Their employees and oleary. Thank God for good old aer lingus. An actual irish airline.... Love flying with lufthansa too. Class act...

Death and Taxes · 04-11-2012 02:26PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

What a crap airline. Hate them with a passion. Their employees and oleary. Thank God for good old aer lingus. An actual irish airline.... Love flying with lufthansa too. Class act...

That would be the same Aer Lingus which Ryanair own 29% of?

Cian92 · 04-11-2012 02:31PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

That would be the same Aer Lingus which Ryanair own 29% of?

yes 29% not exactly 51% :rolleyes:

opinionated3 · 04-11-2012 03:02PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

That would be the same Aer Lingus which Ryanair own 29% of?

Correct....but their greedy, almost abusive attitude hasn't infected the airline yet or their cabin crew.

Agricola · 04-11-2012 03:57PM

The military efficiency attitude of Ryanair disgusted me. I took a lot of Ryanair flights before I finally got onto an Aer Lingus plane and was amazed at the size and quantity of the luggage that people brazenly took into the cabin.
The old "ah shure til be grand, let me help you with your chello Sir" was alive and well at the national airline. But then I realised that the reason I rarely took Aer Lingus flights was because the tickets were routinely double or treble the cost of Ryanair and that Aer Lingus was a basketcase that was fast going out of business. So Micheal O' Leary's system might not be pretty but it seems to work, and it has allowed me to take a few trips that I would otherwise never have even thought about.

Death and Taxes · 04-11-2012 03:59PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Correct....but their greedy, almost abusive attitude hasn't infected the airline yet or their cabin crew.

It hasn't stopped them from growing and growing, 80,000,000 passenger journeys to Aer Lingus's 8,000,000, increased profits, increased market share, happy shareholders, and lots of nice tax money to the government!
Ryanair are a model for successful business.

juan.kerr · 04-11-2012 03:59PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Correct....but their greedy, almost abusive attitude hasn't infected the airline yet or their cabin crew.

No, but I wonder how they would deal with a passenger who barged onto a plane without showing a boarding card or ID?

LiamMc · 04-11-2012 04:19PM

Very happy that Ryanair passengers have to share each others space.

UDP · 04-11-2012 04:29PM

Senna wrote: »

I remember my wife being "challenged" but a complete nutjob ryanair worker while we boarded a flight in Spain, my wife had a flight case and a bag of duty free, the bag wouldn't fit in the flight case and the member of staff was getting very aggressive.

I hate when people give out about staff doing their job especially when some people won't listen or follow the rules. I have seen it so many times, the passenger just won't follow the rules and wants special treatment, gets aggressive with staff and then accuses the staff of being aggressive afterwards just because the staff member was being assertive and forcing the person to follow the rules. You point blank lied to the member of staff but yet the staff member trying to enforce them is the nutjob. Its no wonder that staff are very skeptical of excuses etc that customer give them when so many people are lying to chance their arms.

lounakin · 04-11-2012 04:39PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

That would be the same Aer Lingus which Ryanair own 29% of?

AerLingus lets you on the flight with a book EVEN if you have hand luggage. So I don't care who owns it, it's still better than Ryanair.
I hate them with a passion, was flying with them in their beginning when I started going to college in Dublin in 1998. I have seen the service going down as the prices go up and now I avoid it like the plague. It doesn't matter how well you observe the rules you will always have a **** time. I must have flown a good 50 times with them and I had perhaps 5 nice journeys and 45 nightmares and believe me, I know the rules. You got the horrible seats, small, disgusting and sticky, the questionable staff, the late departures etc...
But my main issue with them is the idiotic rules. What is faster in the long run? Letting people on with a bag AND a small purse with money/book/iphone so that they get in, place the bag and sit... or forcing everyone to stuff everything in one bag and having them spend 5 minutes each trying to take books/wallets/phones out of the bag standing in the aisle, hunched over each other and creating a queue? If we're meant to sit quietly and not have anything out, why do they bombard us with useless things to buy every five minutes? What's the deal with the first 4 rows? Not a bad idea actually because I was on the first row (flight was full) waiting on the ground with doors open for three hours at christmas, freezing my butt off and trying not to watch the badly-groomed flight attendant who was feasting off the dead skin on her fingers while the other was scraping off her nail polish.

Hauled off Ryanair flight over a poster..

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