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Sean Quinn Jailed

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    Dont really know what to think of the Quinn situation, i believe not enough is known or has been reported on it, the fact that he is fighting it and not runningh away like some people associated with Anglo bank gives food for thought, really shows you what greed and power do to people though and how the pictures of him close to tears is a humbling thing too see and also a lesson in itself, be happy without over extending i guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    I'd almost forgotten about this poor eegit.
    Another man who created jobs and industry joins the gathering now in jail whlie the real culprits walk off with 500,000 per year pensions.
    It all stinks like a piece of three day old haddock.

    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/892772-garlic-tax-evasion-lands-irish-businessman-in-jail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    I'd almost forgotten about this poor eegit.
    Another man who created jobs and industry joins the gathering now in jail whlie the real culprits walk off with 500,000 per year pensions.
    It all stinks like a piece of three day old haddock.

    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/892772-garlic-tax-evasion-lands-irish-businessman-in-jail

    What does this have to do with Sean Quinn and his current situation? Do you believe all white collar crime should go unpunished?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Japer


    What does this have to do with Sean Quinn and his current situation?
    The little people - in the greater scheme of things - paying the price / being made the fall guy.

    And the people responsible for destroying the country - the politicians and top public service ( regulator, Central Bank, Dept. of Finance ) all walking away with golden pensions.

    The scams from Nigeria have nothing on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    opti0nal wrote: »
    from Abercrombie and Fitch, that's where the Quinns get their casual clothing.

    Naw, This'll be me!

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9C0-Nzv5_pV0AVNQBqEzisPkP5LE5n4nU6D91aFKpP_tEUYAm-iVIUA


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭Noreen1


    But Quinn was in collusion with Anglo who loaned him the money to try to cover their exposure to the CFDs. Since that action he has continually broken the rules and disobeyed court orders. Ergo he is in Mountjoy.

    Was he?
    Or was he offered a "business opportunity"?

    With any degree of luck, we might just find the answer to that question when Fingleton, Drumm, and Co. finally get their day in court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Maacgyver


    It is annoying but seriously, what will that be to an average Joe over 25 years, maybe 400 euro? It is regrettable but the taxpayer pays a whole lot more on social welfare for jobless lazy travellers during the CT years when theyb should have been working. That, if you ask me, is where the Irish taxpayer deserves a refund.

    In saying that though if I used money from a work expenses account to put money on a horse I was certain would win, and it lost,I would not expect to keep my job. And whining that the horse owner assured me it was a good bet would not matter too much to anyone.

    And if I was worth three billion I should be happy enough not to stake these bets anyway.

    It would take a lot of travelers on the dole for a lot of years to add up to the 1.6 billion insurance black hole and the 2.5 billion black hole his Anglo punt cost the state.

    Im a taxpayer and to be quite honest i would rather see some of my money going to lazy jobless travellers thank to pay for that slimeball. A traveller who was caught for 100,000 in welfare fraud over many years paid back the money and was still sent to jail for over a year, Sean gets a handy 9 weeks in the training unit.

    This scumbag has deliberately moved assets worth 500million which should now be state property out of the states reach, over 100 million of state money has been paid already between legal costs and using an asset retrieval service in Russia to claw back the money. In a proper country he would get the Bernie Madoff treatment of 20 years, here he gets a loyal band of intellectually challenged misfits with black teeth and pitchforks to follow him into the bowels of hell, pathetic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    tell quinn ill do the 9 weeks for him, if gives me half the money hes trying to hide.


    Half?

    I would take less than half a percent to do the 9 weeks! The East European property he is trying to hide is worth half a billion alone IIRC, and Im sure that is not all of it.

    edit- actually, what is the exact figure that he does owe, does it exceed his own personal wealth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    What does this have to do with Sean Quinn and his current situation? Do you believe all white collar crime should go unpunished?

    I'd like to see all crime punished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    Maacgyver wrote: »
    It would take a lot of travelers on the dole for a lot of years to add up to the 1.6 billion insurance black hole and the 2.5 billion black hole his Anglo punt cost the state.

    Im a taxpayer and to be quite honest i would rather see some of my money going to lazy jobless travellers thank to pay for that slimeball. A traveller who was caught for 100,000 in welfare fraud over many years paid back the money and was still sent to jail for over a year, Sean gets a handy 9 weeks in the training unit.!

    Do you have a link for this or is it out of your Hans Christian Anderson journal?
    [QUOTE=This scumbag has deliberately moved assets worth 500million which should now be state property out of the states reach, over 100 million of state money has been paid already between legal costs and using an asset retrieval service in Russia to claw back the money. In a proper country he would get the Bernie Madoff treatment of 20 years, here he gets a loyal band of intellectually challenged misfits with black teeth and pitchforks to follow him into the bowels of hell, pathetic!
    [/QUOTE]I am neither intellectually challenged or a misfit.
    I brush my teeth twice a day and floss also.
    And I can't remember the last time I held a pitchfork.
    You my come from the big smoke but I have to say that you are blowing most of it out your arse.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    I'd like to see all crime punished.

    So obviously you've no objection to Sean Quinn being in prison for contempt of court and Paul Begley for repeatedly committing tax evasion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Japer wrote: »
    The little people - in the greater scheme of things - paying the price / being made the fall guy.

    And the people responsible for destroying the country - the politicians and top public service ( regulator, Central Bank, Dept. of Finance ) all walking away with golden pensions.

    The scams from Nigeria have nothing on it.

    So anybody operating in the private sector committing fraud is the little person and therefore should not be held accountable for his actions?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Courtesy Flush


    Japer wrote: »
    The little people - in the greater scheme of things - paying the price / being made the fall guy.

    And the people responsible for destroying the country - the politicians and top public service ( regulator, Central Bank, Dept. of Finance ) all walking away with golden pensions.

    The scams from Nigeria have nothing on it.

    Sean Quinn being one of the biggest culprits. His failed gamble on Anglo shares cost him his company, I doubt anyone put a gun to his head, hes just a greedy prick.
    And his failure to comply with court orders is why he is now in jail, its pretty simple


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Japer


    When I was in school I remember the teacher saying how the banks were "blue chip" shares and how there was bank regulation.

    I still blame the politicians and top public service ( regulator, Central Bank, Dept. of Finance etc ) and banksters for most of the mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Japer wrote: »
    lol lol. still at large after 4 years. Why should the public service go after other members of the public service? The bankers , the regulator, the Central Bank, Bertie,, the politicians, the dept of Finance........all are / were public service or as good as public service or worked for institutions which are now public service.
    Only job creators get shafted in this banana republic. The inner circle get golden pensions. Quinn, like so many of us, trusted the banks and politicians to do their jobs properly......had they done so, the country would not be in a mess and Quinn would not be in jail.

    That's funny, he wasn't a big fan of the regulator when they did their job with Quinn Insurance.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    So obviously you've no objection to Sean Quinn being in prison for contempt of court and Paul Begley for repeatedly committing tax evasion?

    Sean Quinn broke the law and he is doing his time.
    Paul Begley broke the law and is doing way over his time.
    [The judges stupid reasoning will be overturned on appeal].
    Hatchet Face Daly, Joe Stallinist Higgins and Pretty Boy Barrett are out on the hustings every day urging people to break the law. Have you anything to say about them?
    Should they be committed to prison?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    Japer wrote: »

    I still blame the politicians and top public service ( regulator, Central Bank, Dept. of Finance etc ) and banksters for most of the mess.

    Let's hope they end up behind bars too.

    Anyone know the implications this has? Can he get done for contempt again like? Or, is it off to jail for 90 days and no more about it?


  • Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Greed..

    Nothing else!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Maacgyver wrote: »
    It would take a lot of travelers on the dole for a lot of years to add up to the 1.6 billion insurance black hole and the 2.5 billion black hole his Anglo punt cost the state.

    Im a taxpayer and to be quite honest i would rather see some of my money going to lazy jobless travellers thank to pay for that slimeball. A traveller who was caught for 100,000 in welfare fraud over many years paid back the money and was still sent to jail for over a year, Sean gets a handy 9 weeks in the training unit.

    This scumbag has deliberately moved assets worth 500million which should now be state property out of the states reach, over 100 million of state money has been paid already between legal costs and using an asset retrieval service in Russia to claw back the money. In a proper country he would get the Bernie Madoff treatment of 20 years, here he gets a loyal band of intellectually challenged misfits with black teeth and pitchforks to follow him into the bowels of hell, pathetic!


    Although I disagree and say that travellrs are a far worse drain on the economy than Quinn....very good post :pac: Cavan is very like that though, they do love a gangster, everyone is on the take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    Japer wrote: »
    When I was in school I remember the teacher saying how the banks were "blue chip" shares and how there was bank regulation.

    I still blame the politicians and top public service ( regulator, Central Bank, Dept. of Finance etc ) and banksters for most of the mess.


    See thats the thing until there is a widespread investigation into what happened and who was responsible then everything is just futile, i mean there are people who oversaw this mess still in powerful positions and making powerful decisions.

    Where is the inestigation into successful planning applications in areas that should never in a million years have been granted it and the same with the houses/apartments that where built to a unsafe standard, if they want to fix these things then they need to bring in external investigators from abroad like Iceland did and clean the whole house.

    But i guess that would not suit some powerful individuals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    What happens is Quinn and his son refuse to co operate for the rest of their lives? Will the court case drag on litreally forever? The two of them will end up doing 9 week jail sentences every few months from now until their dying day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,466 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Ultimately the courts will lose patience and will commit them to prison indefinitely until they play ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Ultimately the courts will lose patience and will commit them to prison indefinitely until they play ball.


    Could that realistically happen? Would a whole life sentence really happen if they keep refusing? I reckon Quinn Sr would have the ego to stiff it out for the rest of his days rather than give up his fortune, I know people who worked for him and believe it or not, while he lives comfortably, he does not live to excess. He first became a millionaire years ago, yet until recently he lived in a fairly average four or five bedder at the foot of his golf course. None of this D4 champagne parties and all the other assorted horsey set lifestyle for him at all, most of his spending went on investments. I dont think the frugal lifestyle in prison would be enough to turn him. In his mind, he earned that money and they wont take it off him. Really, it is he same as John Gilligan- within the space of four years he had become a multi millionaire. He could have retired with his equestrian centre, with no prosecutable evidence against him. Maybe jumped into the drug game once a year for one off deals for a few six figures. Yet instead he kept going and took the punishment when it came. Nearly 20 years, but he will be out soon enough, and if you believe the Sunday World he still has his contacts and interests and will be ready to go again.

    But would his younger son really have the balls to spend the next 50 years in jail until he dies on the grounds of family honour and pride? Its like the mafia :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    Ultimately the courts will lose patience and will commit them to prison indefinitely until they play ball.

    How would that come about?
    You can't be tried twice for the one crime,surely?
    Anglo would have to institute a whole new set of charges against him and a lot can happen in the meantime.
    A threat is only a threat when it is hanging over you.
    They have fired their best shot and the Quinns have absorbed it.
    Interesting times ahead!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭WhatNowForUs?


    Japer wrote: »
    fixed that for you.

    Quinn trusted the banks and politicians to do their jobs properly here when he invested here, just as the banks and politicians do their jobs properly in his native U.K. stg jusisdiction.
    So he wasn't greedy he was just a fool. What fool would thrust a politation unless they were in his pocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    How would that come about?
    You can't be tried twice for the one crime,surely?
    Anglo would have to institute a whole new set of charges against him and a lot can happen in the meantime.
    A threat is only a threat when it is hanging over you.
    They have fired their best shot and the Quinns have absorbed it.
    Interesting times ahead!

    I'm hoping it's like this. Each time he refuses to comply with the courts he's committing contempt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Maacgyver wrote: »
    This scumbag has deliberately moved assets worth 500million which should now be is state property out of the states reach, over 100 million of state money has been paid already between legal costs and using an asset retrieval service in Russia to claw back the money. In a proper country he would get the Bernie Madoff treatment of 20 years, here he gets a loyal band of intellectually challenged misfits with black teeth and pitchforks to follow him into the bowels of hell, pathetic!

    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    What happens is Quinn and his son refuse to co operate for the rest of their lives? Will the court case drag on litreally forever? The two of them will end up doing 9 week jail sentences every few months from now until their dying day?

    What if he takes up residence in Fermanagh and decides to never set foot in the republic ever again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭WhatNowForUs?


    Japer wrote: »
    The little people - in the greater scheme of things - paying the price / being made the fall guy.

    And the people responsible for destroying the country - the politicians and top public service ( regulator, Central Bank, Dept. of Finance ) all walking away with golden pensions.

    The scams from Nigeria have nothing on it.
    This is great. Sean Quinn is one of the little people now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭WhatNowForUs?




    Although I disagree and say that travellrs are a far worse drain on the economy than Quinn....very good post :pac: Cavan is very like that though, they do love a gangster, everyone is on the take.
    Cavan is made up of a multitude of people of which not all are in love with Sean Quinn.


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