FireWorks.Should they be sold In ROI?

Washington Irving · 01-11-2012 12:09AM

UCDVet wrote: »

kid's nephew's brother

How many kids have nephews? And wouldn't a nephew's brother also be a nephew?

02-11-2012 06:59AM

Once anything illegal can be obtained easily, it's legality should be reviewed.

Dravokivich · 02-11-2012 09:12AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Once anything illegal can be obtained easily, it's legality should be reviewed.

I'd of thought they should investigate and crack down on it. but hey.

03-11-2012 10:10AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'd of thought they should investigate and crack down on it. but hey.

How?

dollypet · 03-11-2012 11:54AM

Sell them sure- tax the fook outta them- country needs the money

shruikan2553 · 03-11-2012 02:23PM

Considering how easy it is to get them and they dont seem to want to enforce it I say let them be legal but only sold to over 18s (over 25 might be better), illegal to carry without a reason (ie, just bought them, taking them to a friends party), if under 18 have them be taken away, if caught misusing them be done for attempted GBH or something.

yoyo · 03-11-2012 02:44PM

Fireworks yes, bangers no. In saying that a quick glance at the NI Bargain Alerts forum shows just how easy it is to get bangers up north very cheap, even though there and in the UK in general they are supposidly illegal :rolleyes::rolleyes: .

Nick

smellslikeshoes · 03-11-2012 02:57PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'd of thought they should investigate and crack down on it. but hey.

The Gardai don't have even close to enough resources to do this in any meaningful way especially when fireworks are usually let off on the Emergency services busiest night.

bodhrandude · 03-11-2012 03:15PM

I dont mind a fireworks display which is organised but I really hate explosions going off at stupid oclock. Felt sorry for that poor guy during Hurricane Sandy who thought he was lighting a candle and didnt realise it was a firework and blew his hand off.

PizzamanIRL · 03-11-2012 03:30PM

They're just one of those things that aren't allowed but people always get their hands on them.

Like drugs.

Save the hassle and legalise the lot of it.

03-11-2012 03:46PM

There is too many scumbags who think bangers are a 'laugh' and something that should be thrown at animals, into gardens, at people walking past, middle of the night etc.

The last thing you want is more of them on the street, they'd be still going for weeks after halloween.

Kev.OC · 03-11-2012 04:40PM

the groutch wrote: »

things like this are why they should never be made legal

(Note: Link contains graphic images that some people may find disturbing)

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dog-put-down-after-fireworks-savagery-2341207.html?start=2

Ok, I'm sorry, but that brings out the "mob justice" side of me. I know that accomplishes absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, but I honestly don't care. If the people who did that were to be put through some physical discomfort I wouldn't lose any sleep. [/rant]

However, all that being said, I'd still be in favour of legalising fireworks. There should be restrictions on who could buy them, you'd have to be at least 21. And nothing too big without a licence. But in this day and age I don't think they should be illegal. Not when you can hop into the car, drive a few miles north and get them hassle free.

They should be legalised and taxed.

B.A._Baracus · 03-11-2012 04:45PM

They should be legal here. People buy them for Halloween as it is.

juan.kerr · 03-11-2012 04:47PM

Not sure if it is the recession or better enforcement or whatever but the quantity of bangers is significantly down on 4 or 5 years ago.

I've no idea why anyone would want to go back to 2 weeks of bangers going off.

Halloween is 1 day, not a week before and after the 31st.

juan.kerr · 03-11-2012 04:48PM

SaulGoode9 wrote: »

How many kids have nephews? And wouldn't a nephew's brother also be a nephew?

Thought it was his brothers nephews kid though?

Capt'n Midnight · 03-11-2012 06:29PM

triple-M wrote: »

are they illegal anywhere esle in europe?

Regular deaths in Naples , some from fireworks some from guns
http://www.lagazzettadelmezzogiorno.it/notizia.php?IDNotizia=482051&IDCategoria=2694

In Naples police discovered a clandestine factory, seizing four tonnes of fireworks and arresting one man
...
In the last five years there have been three New Year celebration deaths in the southern Italian city. Women in Naples got so fed up with their menfolk in 2008 that they launched a 'no sex if you let off fireworks' drive. The operation had some success as the number of injuries dropped by about 100 to 382 that year. But one person was killed by a stray bullet - the second year running that someone was accidentally shot dead on New Year's Eve.

Another question is how many death are caused by the market for fireworks

23 dead in Holland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enschede_fireworks_disaster

133 dead in India (happens a lot)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/sep/05/firework-factory-explosion-india-video

Other factories have gone up in recently in China, Russia , Honduras

Dravokivich · 04-11-2012 09:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How?

Far be it from me to tell someone else how to do a job I've no experience in, but making something legal, purely because they can't seem to get a handle on it, is as much as smack in the face as your "How?" comment.

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

The Gardai don't have even close to enough resources to do this in any meaningful way especially when fireworks are usually let off on the Emergency services busiest night.

All I said was just because they seem unable to cope, doesn't mean it should be made legal. If it is as big a problem especially this time of the year, they'd need to put forward a big investigation/operation into it. Making them legal does not stop them from being a problem.

Hilly Bill · 04-11-2012 09:23PM

Bonfires and fireworks has feck all to do with Halloween so they shouldnt be sold here. If Bonfire night on 5th of November gets celebrated here then sell them and only a few days before.

06-11-2012 04:05PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Far be it from me to tell someone else how to do a job I've no experience in, but making something legal, purely because they can't seem to get a handle on it, is as much as smack in the face as your "How?" comment.

It's not a ridiculous notion.. If you can't regulate it, then maybe it should be made legal. Look at prohibition or the pointless war on drugs.. Fireworks are no different.

LordSutch · 06-11-2012 08:15PM

notnumber wrote: »

FireWorks.Should they be sold In ROI?

YES, Fireworks should officially be brought back!

They were of course openly sold here in the shops (pre 1969/70) or there abouts, and then there was some some kind of warehouse fire on the quays in Dublin, somebody died, and the ban commenced (if memory serves me correctly)?

flutterflye · 06-11-2012 08:24PM

SaulGoode9 wrote: »

How many kids have nephews? And wouldn't a nephew's brother also be a nephew?

My 9 year old son has an aunt who's an hour younger than him - it's not that uncommon is it?

Re fireworks - Meh, I'm not bothered either way.
The guy who posted about the UK and the strict regulations around them - I think I'd agree with that the most.
Makes the most sense.
But we are in Ireland, for whatever reason our police and legal system aren't as good with dealing with enforcing these things as well as the UK are.

notnumber · 06-11-2012 10:01PM

flutterflye wrote: »

But we are in Ireland, for whatever reason our police and legal system aren't as good with dealing with enforcing these things as well as the UK are.

I'd say they would do just as good a job.

notnumber · 06-11-2012 10:04PM

LordSutch wrote: »

YES, Fireworks should officially be brought back!

They were of course openly sold here in the shops (pre 1969/70) or there abouts, and then there was some some kind of warehouse fire on the quays in Dublin, somebody died, and the ban commenced (if memory serves me correctly)?

did not know that! ok I can see why they might be banned..firework factory explosions are not uncommon..must be a great sight assuming no one dies of course.

Totally Tropical · 21-12-2012 06:07PM

This is an issue again now that New Years is on the horizon although this year was the first time that people started letting off fireworks in a big way before the night itself.I think legalising them for Halloween and New Years needs to be looked at if it keeps those really dodgy banger type ones off the streets.

zilvinasb · 30-12-2012 06:53PM

Please share your opinions. We should be happy that it is illegal in here.

WARNING! Graphic content. Do not watch if you are under 18.

CianRyan · 30-12-2012 06:57PM

Warning because the OP is lazy, a guy looses a hand in that video.

That's messed up but a lot of things can **** you up if you use them wrong.
You wouldn't stick your hand into a toaster would you?

krudler · 30-12-2012 06:57PM

Good, big proper fireworks displays can be amazing, little scummers setting them off around estates and strapping them to animals is already too common.

edit: ugh I just watched the vid, NFSW guy gets his hand blown off

Max Power · 30-12-2012 06:58PM

Poor bastard.

keith16 · 30-12-2012 07:05PM

The firework ban is about as effective as a ban on rain would be.

zilvinasb · 30-12-2012 07:07PM

keith16 wrote: »

The firework ban is about as effective as a ban on rain would be.

Yes, you can get them illegally, but the effort is not worth it. If it was sold in the shops in here, they would be used any day of the week any time of the day all year long...

FireWorks.Should they be sold In ROI?

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