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***Motors Chat Thread Round 2***

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  • #842
    Remmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to take a pic but I saw a very unusual car in a petrol station a few weeks ago. Couldn't think I the name of it until I saw a different one online today. Aston Martin Lagonda. :D Very peculiar looking car.


  • #843
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    MetzgerMeister wrote: »
    First Stop don't either and they are my usual tyre shop.

    It seems to be the branded stores that don't fit supplied tyres. Better off with an indy shop. ;)


  • #844
    Dartz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Dartz


    One thing I like about my car.

    I can start it.
    Take the key out.
    Leave it.
    And lock it while it's sitting idle, warming up to get ready for the journey home.


  • #845
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    just got a voucher for €50 off a service from the dealer I bought my car from... Kia and Mitsubishi main dealership :D

    probably never use it though.....


  • #846
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    OSI wrote: »

    Not the one on Parnell St is it?

    naas road clondalkin next to the Fitzgerald group hotel. Michael tynan motors.

    great garage. sound people


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  • #847
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Wow, this weather is bringing out the prick in all the felty audi drivers. It's as if they want to become a statistic :rolleyes:


  • #848
    166man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    Right lads, quick question here, take it easy though it could be a stupid question but myself and a friend are having this debate earlier.

    You have two identical cars alongside each other travelling at exactly 80mph. One is a brand new Alfa with 120bhp, the other being a 8 year old exact same model of that car with the same engine i.e everything. The older car has lost power over the years and as such produces only 80bhp.

    My friend reckons that they both would be sitting at 80mph at exactly the same ''revs'' i.e 4k revs per minute. I said this wasn't right as the more powerful car would do 80mph with less ''revs'' say 3.5k as it has more power than the older one.

    Who is right here? It's a genuine question so if I'm wrong don't attack me!:o:D


  • #849
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    You really, really, really, really need to get over your infatuation with Alfa's dude.


  • #850
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    You've ignored the important part of the puzzle here, the gearbox.

    The gearbox is the deciding factor in all this, not the engine. If they're really the same cars, and have the same gearbox, then AFAIK no matter what the power is the speed and revs will always have the same link/ratio. So your friend is right.

    The effects on the car that's lost BHP will be an increase in time taken to reach 80mph, and it'll have a lower top speed.


    *I could well be wrong. /awaiting either Marlow or Matt Simis' input


  • #851
    166man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    You really, really, really, really need to get over your infatuation with Alfa's dude.

    That directed at me? I just used them as examples, take two 740i's if you wish..:)
    challengemaster wrote: »
    You've ignored the important part of the puzzle here, the gearbox.

    The gearbox is the deciding factor in all this, not the engine. If they're really the same cars, and have the same gearbox, then AFAIK no matter what the power is the speed and revs will always have the same link/ratio. So your friend is right.

    The effects on the car that's lost BHP will be an increase in time taken to reach 80mph, and it'll have a lower top speed.

    I did take that into account but surely the 80bhp car wouldn't be able to hold the same revs at 80mph than the 120 engine?


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  • #852
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    166man wrote: »
    That directed at me?

    YES! ;)


  • #853
    166man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    YES! ;)

    You can take any marque of car you wish, I used Alfa because..... well... yeah fine I like 'em ya hear! :D

    Using any example, I'm puzzled by what is the right answer...


  • #854
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    166man wrote: »
    You can take any marque of car you wish, I used Alfa because..... I'm obsessed with them! :D

    Using any example, I'm puzzled by what is the right answer...

    FYP :p


  • #855
    166man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    FYP :p

    I do try to keep that obsession away from my posts on boards though.... I swear I do...:pac:


  • #856
    gollywog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    Booked in for a remap with joe next Friday at 11! :)


  • #857
    langdang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭langdang


    challengemaster wrote: »
    You've ignored the important part of the puzzle here, the gearbox.

    The gearbox is the deciding factor in all this, not the engine. If they're really the same cars, and have the same gearbox, then AFAIK no matter what the power is the speed and revs will always have the same link/ratio. So your friend is right.

    The effects on the car that's lost BHP will be an increase in time taken to reach 80mph, and it'll have a lower top speed.


    *I could well be wrong. /awaiting either Marlow or Matt Simis' input
    Wheel sizes will also affect the final gearing ratio, but yeah - for the same gearbox/wheels at the same RPM then the speed will be the same.
    Lower horsepower will mean that a car will take longer to get there alright...


  • #858
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    166man wrote: »
    Right lads, quick question here, take it easy though it could be a stupid question but myself and a friend are having this debate earlier.

    You have two identical cars alongside each other travelling at exactly 80mph. One is a brand new Alfa with 120bhp, the other being a 8 year old exact same model of that car with the same engine i.e everything. The older car has lost power over the years and as such produces only 80bhp.

    My friend reckons that they both would be sitting at 80mph at exactly the same ''revs'' i.e 4k revs per minute. I said this wasn't right as the more powerful car would do 80mph with less ''revs'' say 3.5k as it has more power than the older one.

    Who is right here? It's a genuine question so if I'm wrong don't attack me!:o:D

    Same box, same ratios, same engine? Same revs. Just the lower hp car would find it less comfortable at that speed and would prob take longer to get there.

    It was the same crack with the Bravos, mine was, well, you know and the rest were mostly standard. All sat at 85mph at 4krpm in 5th gear, 6th was slightly higher but not by much


  • #859
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    One big problem is having two "identical" cars, one of which is 8 years older than the other :P


  • #860
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    MetzgerMeister wrote: »
    One big problem is having two "identical" cars, one of which is 8 years older than the other :P

    Not a problem when you're dgt... every car potentially has the same engine :pac:


  • #861
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    MetzgerMeister wrote: »
    One big problem is having two "identical" cars, one of which is 8 years older than the other :P

    That's the thing, they ain't identical if one is down on hp :pac::pac::pac:


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  • #862
    Gary ITR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,800 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    A car sold new with 120bhp and only 80bhp 8 years later is seriously I'll :)

    Contrary to popular belief cars don't loose a lot of power over the years, its usually inflated manufacturer figures. Jap stuff is usually way over estimated, 190celicas make 160ish even when fresh, dc2 integras make 170ish when quoted at 187.

    A 10 year old150bhp golf will make 150 though, German stuff is on the money apart from MPower cars and RS Audi's and the like over here but a lot of that is down to 99ron fuel not being available here

    A lot of people are misguided due to Top Gear but the cars they ran were seriously ill

    Also Fifth Gear did a segment on additives but they used a car (Rover GTI) that would have been tuned for 95ron therefore unable to take advantage of the better fuel

    Theres my piece of useless info for the day


  • #863
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dgt wrote: »
    That's the thing, they ain't identical if one is down on hp :pac::pac::pac:

    Uhh yeah, that was kind of my point ;)


  • #864
    Matt Simis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,574 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    Gary ITR wrote: »
    A lot of people are misguided due to Top Gear but the cars they ran were seriously ill
    It annoyed the BMW 8series forums greatly when top gear did the 850i vs CL600 test. The dyno showed the 850i was putting down something like 293bhp.. they claimed it lost 30bhp vs the stock 326bhp and it lost that round. Problem was that model was the 300bhp version (the 326bhp was a different engine). Never mind the fact the CL600 was an entire generation and at least a decade newer so it was a stupid comparison anyhow.

    So after nearly 20years their $hitty tired 850i was still putting out over 95% of its BHP, despite "loosing" that test due to their pis$ power research abilities.


  • #865
    166man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    MetzgerMeister wrote: »
    One big problem is having two "identical" cars, one of which is 8 years older than the other :P

    The first 156 came out in 1997/1998, was still available in 2005/2006. ;)

    Thanks anyway though folks, cleared things up for me...:o

    Have to go wash the friends car 'cos I lost though...:pac:


  • #866
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,632 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Anyone got any info on Stunner Tyres? I just stuck them on my motor.

    I know they're not name brand but yer man in the garage stood by them.


  • #867
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    a4051682-217-DOUBLE-FACEPALM-600x480.jpg?d=1306873439


  • #868
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Anyone got any info on Stunner Tyres? I just stuck them on my motor.

    I know they're not name brand but yer man in the garage stood by them.

    http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=58060

    Im not to sure what "stunner" you have, Duo seems to be good.
    http://www.vitalbmx.com/product/guide/Tires,40/Duo/Stunner-Tire,1598

    Have a gander at them links anyway. Hope it helps. If I get anything else on them I will post it up! :)


  • #869
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    Im not to sure what "stunner" you have, Duo seems to be good.
    http://www.vitalbmx.com/product/guide/Tires,40/Duo/Stunner-Tire,1598

    Have a gander at them links anyway. Hope it helps. If I get anything else on them I will post it up! :)

    Somehow, I don't think he's after putting bicycle tyres on his car...

    Then again...


  • #870
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,632 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Hahaha no not bicycle tyres. Although the guy did say that they were last generation Michelin's.... im useless with tyres. Were last generation Michelins any good?


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  • #871
    Ded_Zebra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Hahaha no not bicycle tyres. Although the guy did say that they were last generation Michelin's.... im useless with tyres. Were last generation Michelins any good?

    Lol I call total BS on this :pac:

    If I was you I would prepare for them to be total sh*te!

    As someone else said on here a few days "chinese tyres last a lifetime":D:D


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