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Sean Quinn Jailed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,291 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    So to continue the primary school analogy is the Irish state participating in "making an example of" justice? If hundreds of cars sped past a Garda car and you were the only one convicted for speeding, would you think, yes fair cop, I am guilty or would you feel aggrieved that only you were prosecuted?

    But they are actively pursuing the other cars (Fitz, whelan etc). The Quinns haven't been prosecuted for their many, many *alledged* other crimes

    He's been convicted of contempt of court, because he's the only person (in this whole field...) who's guilty of that crime.

    Unless you know different?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    humanji wrote: »
    Were others not held in contempt when they held the court in contempt? I may have missed those other trials.


    NAMA are using taxpayers money to pay developers who have hidden assets up to €200,000 to remain running their own businesses.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Well how can you say its justice for one person to be treated differently than others?

    So instead of trying to turn our country around and start making people answerable for their corrupt actions we should let them off because 'shure didn't that fella over there get away with it'.

    It's time to start addressing the corruption that is endemic in this country and if they have to start with Sean Quinn, well so be it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    NAMA are using taxpayers money to pay developers who have hidden assets up to €200,000 to remain running their own businesses.

    Can we please talk about Sean Quinn. This is getting silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    well, I suppose they can't have their cake, and eat it too.
    :D cake


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    wrote:
    Origin by SafeSurfer
    Well how can you say its justice for one person to be treated differently than others?

    but yet you want him treated differently to the law abiding citizen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    No. The first man in jail as a result of the Irish economic collapse is an entrepreneur.

    He has lost his business as a result of his mistakes.

    Civil servants who made huge mistakes like Patrick Neary, ex financial regulator, got rewarded by a €600,000 golden handshake for his.

    Members of the last cabinet, Cowen et al, all being paid massive pensions from borrowed money for their incompetence.

    Its not that "sure others are worse". Its that there is a protected elite in this country who remain beyond accountability.


    Did Quinn not steal from his company and give the money to his family?

    He was stealing from you,me and others who had paid insurance premiums to his company.

    He did not care about the consequences then but he has to face them now, better late than never sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    NAMA are using taxpayers money to pay developers who have hidden assets up to €200,000 to remain running their own businesses.
    And? When this was brought up in court and NAMA were told to stop, did they continue to pay them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    I'm in Cavan right now taking names for the civil unrest militia, or the Quinn-ta Brigada as we're calling ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭Dartz




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭Dartz


    Has there been any riots in Cavan yet?
    Cows will be tipped in Anger and Fury!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    I've already fúcking said I'm not a supporter, I live in Dublin, I have no connections to Cavan or him or his family. It's simple business common sense. On the face of it, how can a loan that appears to have been issued illegally, be enforceable? If it is unenforceable, how can any securities that are attached to the loan, be just taken off a person or a corporate entity?!? You wouldn't see the likes of it in Somalia.

    He still took the monies! You really think he should be able to walk away from that debt now, seriously?

    The people who gave them the money have a case to answer and the heads of Anglo have been charged. I think people don't realise the scale of this.

    It's the single biggest lost in Contracts for Difference world history.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    So instead of trying to turn our country around and start making people answerable for their corrupt actions we should let them off because 'shure didn't that fella over there get away with it'.

    It's time to start addressing the corruption that is endemic in this country and if they have to start with Sean Quinn, well so be it.

    The very state is corrupt. Yes Quinn is guilty of many things but the state has something that Quinn doesn't have - Power backed by force.

    The jailing and bankrupting of Quinn will mean we will never get to the heart of the corruption in this rotten, rotten state.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    I suggest both of you rethink the way you post about the people of Cavan.

    Capeesh?


    Was not intended as an insult to all the people of Cavan (I know plenty of decent people from there), just to the deluded ones who continue to rally, make threats, & put huge pressure on others in the area to attend these rallys.Capeesh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    He'll be out in time for supper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    humanji wrote: »
    And? When this was brought up in court and NAMA were told to stop, did they continue to pay them?

    Yes, they are still being paid TTBOMK.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Can anybody confirm, will 9 weeks in prison absolutely guarantee that he gets rode up the hole?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭Skid


    No appeal, Quinn is going to prison today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Yes, they are still being paid TTBOMK.
    And when was this court case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,037 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Anyone wrote: »
    Can anybody confirm, will 9 weeks in prison absolutely guarantee that he gets rode up the hole?

    If the answer to this is "Yes", i`m guessing your next question will be what do you have to do to get 9 weeks in prison?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I wasn't wishing AIDS on someone , that is a person, I am wishing it on a lowlife family of rats!

    Banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,291 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    The jailing and bankrupting of Quinn will mean we will never get to the heart of the corruption in this rotten, rotten state.

    But not jailing him would mean we will get to the heart of it?

    Sound logic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin



    Ahh, deadly. I have to say I got a good cackle out of that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    Safesrfer last time I checked Quinn is going inside AGAIN so contempt of court.If you or I was found guilty of that we would go to court

    why should he be any different?

    I think your starting to come across as a tad distant from reality.Just because the state hs other ealings that are not ok that doesnt mean that its ok for Quinn to do what he wants and when he wants

    It also worth noting that IF quinn decides to comply with the court he could possibly be released

    As a normal law abiding citizen the justice systems is the only thing we have.When people opt to stick the middle finger up at that then they should be punished.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    The jailing and bankrupting of Quinn will mean we will never get to the heart of the corruption in this rotten, rotten state.

    Explain this one to me. You're saying that jailing Sean Quinn for his illegal activities means we will never be able to uncover any corruption committed by the state. How so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭Morag


    He's not being locked up for the real reasons and certainly not for long enough.
    He and a whole slew of 'businessmen' need to learn they are not untouchable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭Skid




    Happy Christmas Sean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    He has told court he wants to begin his sentence today: http://www.rte.ie/news/index.html

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1102/sean-quinn.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    One thing I will say at least Quinn SNR has taken the sentence

    Unlike the other weasel darragh quinn who legged it up noth and still sticking the middle finger to us all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    smash wrote: »
    Reports of violent cow tipping incidents coming in all over the place.

    Tipping in Cavan?.. never thought I'd see the day


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