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Nude Men exhibition in Vienna...

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  • #32
    shopaholic01
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    smash wrote: »
    Well only because that's how I'd look at it. Fine art maybe, but come on... I'd still be looking all at the bits!


    /que 'come on' jokes.
    But you would still appreciate it, which is the purpose of art.


  • #33
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,102 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    It wouldn't be just the willy, though. I love the shape of a man's torso - broad shoulders and then it narrows to the hips, the shape of men's arms and legs due to greater muscle mass (natural, I hate the 'pumped-up' gym look) and it's even better if they have chest hair and a nice honey trail!

    You're wrong though. Women are curvy and more interesting, like a Ferrari. Men are built like those old Volvo estates, fine if you need to move stuff, but harsh on the eyes.


  • #34
    Shenshen
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    kowloon wrote: »
    You're wrong though. Women are curvy and more interesting, like a Ferrari. Men are built like those old Volvo estates, fine if you need to move stuff, but harsh on the eyes.

    I've seen Ferraris and I take that as an insult. :p

    Other than that I would agree with shopaholic01, though, men are beautiful to look at. I'm not that big a fan of hairiness, but I do agree with her on the shape of the torso, and the shape of the arms.
    A male backside is a line of beauty.


  • #35
    shopaholic01
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    kowloon wrote: »
    You're wrong though. Women are curvy and more interesting, like a Ferrari. Men are built like those old Volvo estates, fine if you need to move stuff, but harsh on the eyes.
    As a straight woman I prefer a male body. That's not to say I can't admire the female form in a non-sexual way, but it would be more along the lines of 'I'd kill for those legs' etc. (I'm only 5ft 3'' and want long legs :().


  • #36
    JuliusCaesar
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    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    It wouldn't be just the willy, though. I love the shape of a man's torso - broad shoulders and then it narrows to the hips, the shape of men's arms and legs due to greater muscle mass (natural, I hate the 'pumped-up' gym look) and it's even better if they have chest hair and a nice honey trail!

    ??


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  • #37
    kowloon
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    floggg wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the same museum had an equivalent one for women recently with little or no fan fare.

    It seems people get more exited over cock and balls than tits and vagina.

    Edit - it might not have been the same museum. This article just talks about most exhibits of nudes being about females.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/10/18/naked-men-art-exhibit_n_1973591.html

    There's an awful lot of muff in art though.

    It doesn't have the same degree of sexual connotation though. I think the female body is more likely to be seen as somehow being automatically pornographic. The gaze is definitely a real phenomenon. I don't think it applies so much to older media, but it's very obvious in film and static photography.


  • #38
    shopaholic01
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    JuliusCaesar wrote: »
    ??

    I've done it again!!! I meant happy trail. :o


  • #39
    smash
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    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    But you would still appreciate it, which is the purpose of art.
    I'd appreciate it like I appreciate penthouse in fairness.


  • #40
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    smash wrote: »
    I'd appreciate it like I appreciate penthouse in fairness.
    That's fair enough, there's no correct way to 'appreciate' art. Would you go to see the exhibition?


  • #41
    kowloon
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    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    I've done it again!!! I meant happy trail. :o

    I'm not googling that, what is it? Does it wag when it's happy?


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  • #42
    Shenshen
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    kowloon wrote: »
    It doesn't have the same degree of sexual connotation though. I think the female body is more likely to be seen as somehow being automatically pornographic. The gaze is definitely a real phenomenon. I don't think it applies so much to older media, but it's very obvious in film and static photography.

    I'm not so sure there. I know that some of the pictures in that exhibition are of erect male members, so there is a definite erotic element to it.

    If they put on an exhibition like this somewhere around here, I would definintely go and see it.


  • #43
    shopaholic01
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    kowloon wrote: »
    I'm not googling that, what is it? Does it wag when it's happy?
    Trail of hair from the navel down to pubic hair and genitalia.


  • #44
    Emeraldy Pebbles
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    smash wrote: »
    So if it was a museum full of images of naked women would it be art or pervy?

    Art. There's been probably countless exhibitions featuring both male and female nudes down the years, and probably down the ages.


  • #45
    smash
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    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    That's fair enough, there's no correct way to 'appreciate' art. Would you go to see the exhibition?
    The cock n balls expo? It wouldn't interest me.


  • #46
    shopaholic01
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    smash wrote: »
    The cock n balls expo? It wouldn't interest me.
    Would you go to a female one?

    I would go to both - the male one to admire and the female one mainly to compare. I wonder would men compare themselves to the exhibits to the same extent women would?


  • #47
    Emeraldy Pebbles
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    Shenshen wrote: »
    I'm not that big a fan of hairiness, but I do agree with her on the shape of the torso, and the shape of the arms.
    A male backside is a line of beauty.

    Gawd, what's wrong with you? Hairy men are the best! :pac:


  • #48
    Shenshen
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    Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »
    Gawd, what's wrong with you? Hairy men are the best! :pac:

    Fair enough, you can have my share so. :D

    I just don't find it appealing, neither to look at nor to touch. And let's not even get started on getting hairs in your mouth in certain situations.


  • #49
    smash
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    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    Would you go to a female one?
    yep :D
    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    I would go to both - the male one to admire and the female one mainly to compare. I wonder would men compare themselves to the exhibits to the same extent women would?
    Of course they would. I also do think it could actually be educational for people so they realise that not all men are hung like pornstars.
    Shenshen wrote: »
    And let's not even get started on getting hairs in your mouth in certain situations.
    rimming? :pac:


  • #50
    Shenshen
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    smash wrote: »


    rimming? :pac:

    That's for me to know and you to guess :p


  • #51
    Duggy747
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    I went to an exhibition that had naked people in it, once.

    Well...........they were dead and their skin was stripped off them..........


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  • #52
    kowloon
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    Shenshen wrote: »
    I'm not so sure there. I know that some of the pictures in that exhibition are of erect male members, so there is a definite erotic element to it.

    If they put on an exhibition like this somewhere around here, I would definintely go and see it.

    You have me there, but it really does have to be something very blatant. The female body is definitely more sexualised and that brings along with it attitudes that really shouldn't exist anymore. Ireland and the UK are full of prudish types, more so than any other place in Europe that I've been to. Granted, we're not quite up there with Islamic fundamentalists, but I think a lot of it comes from the same roots.


  • #53
    Emeraldy Pebbles
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    Shenshen wrote: »
    Fair enough, you can have my share so. :D

    Oh, I will! :pac:


  • #54
    kowloon
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    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    I wonder would men compare themselves to the exhibits to the same extent women would?

    Yes, but we already know before we go in that they're all smaller. :cool:


  • #55
    Fizzlesque
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    kowloon wrote: »
    You're wrong though. Women are curvy and more interesting, like a Ferrari. Men are built like those old Volvo estates, fine if you need to move stuff, but harsh on the eyes.

    Harsh on the eyes? No way. Granted, not all men are (to use your analogy) Ferraris but there are some seriously fine specimens on the planet who are extremely pleasing to the eye. Trust me, the male form can be (and often is) extremely aesthetically pleasing. :)


  • #56
    kowloon
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    Fizzlesque wrote: »
    Harsh on the eyes? No way. Granted, not all men are (to use your analogy) Ferraris but there are some seriously fine specimens on the planet who are extremely pleasing to the eye. Trust me, the male form can be (and often is) extremely aesthetically pleasing. :)

    You're all wrong and I'm in no way biased :D.


  • #57
    smash
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    Shenshen wrote: »
    I know that some of the pictures in that exhibition are of erect male members, so there is a definite erotic element to it.
    Is this not akin to showing photos of a naked woman spreading her bits apart and saying its art?


  • #58
    Shenshen
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    kowloon wrote: »
    You have me there, but it really does have to be something very blatant. The female body is definitely more sexualised and that brings along with it attitudes that really shouldn't exist anymore. Ireland and the UK are full of prudish types, more so than any other place in Europe that I've been to. Granted, we're not quite up there with Islamic fundamentalists, but I think a lot of it comes from the same roots.

    True, I've noticed that since I came here. Nudity on the whole is much more of an issue here than it is in Germany or Austria, for example. I had never worn a swim suit in a sauna until I came here, I found that very odd at first to say the least.

    By extention, female nudity seems a lot more charged and sexualised, while male nudity tends to be regarded as hilarious at best.

    Do you think this could be cultural influence from the US? Or vice versa?


  • #59
    Shenshen
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    smash wrote: »
    Is this not akin to showing photos of a naked woman spreading her bits apart and saying its art?

    Again, I don't mean to shock you, but on a school trip to an art exhibition in Frankfurt, there was a series of pencil drawing depicting just that.

    And why would it not be? Just because similar images are produced on a commercial scale? Is a still life picture not art because everyone has the depicted objects at home in their fridges?


  • #60
    Shenshen
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    kowloon wrote: »
    You're all wrong and I'm in no way biased :D.

    I'm not sure there can be a wrong or right here, it's a bit like arguing whose favourite colour is better.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


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  • #61
    smash
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    Shenshen wrote: »

    Again, I don't mean to shock you, but on a school trip to an art exhibition in Frankfurt, there was a series of pencil drawing depicting just that.

    And why would it not be? Just because similar images are produced on a commercial scale? Is a still life picture not art because everyone has the depicted objects at home in their fridges?
    You're not shocking me, I'm just asking where the line is between art and erotic material, if there's a line at all.

    Like it would be ok for someone to be studying the statue of David for college projects while on a bus but it wouldn't be ok for a film student to be watching one night in Paris.


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