Nude Men exhibition in Vienna...

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The Leopold Museum said that the Nackte Männer (Nude Men) show was drawing more visitors than one devoted to Gustav Klimt earlier this year to mark the Austrian symbolist painter's 150th birthday.

"You could not expect this because Klimt is a highlight of Vienna," museum spokesman Klaus Pokorny said, adding that the current exhibition had not been done before.

"People are curious."

More than 1,000 people - on some days more than twice that - have visited the museum daily since the exhibition started on 19 October, Mr Pokorny said.
Earlier this month, the Leopold Museum said it had decided to cover the football players' "intimate parts" on large placards advertising the exhibition after they caused an outcry.

The original photograph by French artists Pierre & Gilles - called "Vive La France" - of three men of different races wearing nothing but blue, white and red socks and soccer boots can now be seen at the Leopold among some 300 other artworks.

Due to run until 28 January, the exhibition is designed to show how the depiction of male nudity has evolved in art history.

A diverse range of styles is represented, including classical themes by 17th century Dutch painter Peter Paul Rubens and others, as well as more explicit and modern content by US photographer Robert Mapplethorpe and other avant-garde artists.

"It is new for me, it was interesting," Anna, a young Austrian woman, said about the art on display. "We had to see it," her friend Helmut said.

But Peter Schroeder, a German visiting the museum with his Finnish wife, said they were more interested in the Japanese ink paintings and calligraphy also exhibited in the museum.

"Finland is a very liberal country. This is nothing special," he said.

The museum - named after Austrian collector Rudolf Leopold - houses the world's largest collection of works by Egon Schiele, one of Austria's major 20th century artists.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1030/nude-men-vienna.html

TLDR: Thousands of people are flocking to a museum to see hundreds of photos of naked men.

So if it was a museum full of images of naked women would it be art or pervy?

Washington Irving

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opinion guy

smash wrote: »

So if it was a museum full of images of naked women would it be art or pervy?

No. So go ahead and open one

smash

opinion guy wrote: »

No. So go ahead and open one

I'd definitely make it pervy though. With a €5 entrance fee to the **** booths. I'd make a killing!

shopaholic01

smash wrote: »

So if it was a museum full of images of naked women would it be art or pervy?

I think it could be either - depending on why people went to see it.


If I went to the naked man exhibition it would be purely for 'pervy' reasons. Human bodies are beautiful, we should admire them purely for their aesthetic appeal.

kowloon

I guarantee it would cause more of a stir if it was Women. Society still can't get over the whole 'women are dirty and only get their kit off for one thing' attitude. Sure they're all ungodly seductresses out to fornicate and do Satan's work.

Shenshen

smash wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1030/nude-men-vienna.html

TLDR: Thousands of people are flocking to a museum to see hundreds of photos of naked men.

So if it was a museum full of images of naked women would it be art or pervy?

What, you mean like all those old paintings of naked women hanging in every single art museum on this globe?

Rubens and the like?

castletownman

I'd say if a lad went there with his girlfriend he'd feel somewhat.....wait for it......Austria-cised.

Pretty sure the girlfriend's attention would be on all the willies.

shopaholic01

kowloon wrote: »

I guarantee it would cause more of a stir if it was Women. Society still can't get over the whole 'women are dirty and only get their kit off for one thing' attitude. Sure they're all ungodly seductresses out to fornicate and do Satan's work.

Well, we do our best! :pac:

antodeco

Oh man, I clicked on the thread. I think I must have caught the ghey

Lapin

Tune in to the Mooney show for a full report on this exhibition over the next few days.

smash

Shenshen wrote: »

What, you mean like all those old paintings of naked women hanging in every single art museum on this globe?

Rubens and the like?

No, clearly I'm not talking about some grots from centuries ago. I'm talking about good looking women with nice bodies like those of the footballers displayed in Vienna.

old hippy

Art and beauty are in the eye of the beholders; it's all subjective. If you don't like nudity or the idea of naked male bodies offends/threatens you - don't go.

King Of Wishful Thinking

This means nothing to me.

smash

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Human bodies are beautiful, we should admire them purely for their aesthetic appeal.

There's an app for that.

iDave

theres lots of naked people online, who cares?

Shenshen

smash wrote: »

No, clearly I'm not talking about some grots from centuries ago. I'm talking about good looking women with nice bodies like those of the footballers displayed in Vienna.

There's tons and tons of those around, too.
You'll have to forgive me for not provideing links while I'm at work.

shopaholic01

castletownman wrote: »

I'd say if a lad went there with his girlfriend he'd feel somewhat.....wait for it......Austria-cised.

Pretty sure the girlfriend's attention would be on all the willies.

It wouldn't be just the willy, though. I love the shape of a man's torso - broad shoulders and then it narrows to the hips, the shape of men's arms and legs due to greater muscle mass (natural, I hate the 'pumped-up' gym look) and it's even better if they have chest hair and a nice honey trail!

old hippy

iDave wrote: »

theres lots of naked people online, who cares?

Are you naked, Dave? :eek:

smash

iDave wrote: »

theres lots of naked people online, who cares?

Dave, you're naked now aren't you...

Shenshen wrote: »

There's tons and tons of those around, too.
You'll have to forgive me for not provideing links while I'm at work.

They're not displayed as enormous posters in a museum though.

Celly Smunt

If it was naked women it would be sexist and degrading.

shopaholic01

smash wrote: »

They're not displayed as enormous posters in a museum though.

Do you think it would be pervy, smash?

old hippy

pmcmahon wrote: »

If it was naked women it would be sexist and degrading.

Um, nudity in art has been there for millennia - men and women.

Lapin

King Of Wishful Thinking wrote: »

This means nothing to me.

I see what you did there.

snausages

Nothing wrong with it. The male form is a work of art.

shopaholic01 wrote: »

It wouldn't be just the willy, though. I love the shape of a man's torso - broad shoulders and then it narrows to the hips, the shape of men's arms and legs due to greater muscle mass (natural, I hate the 'pumped-up' gym look) and it's even better if they have chest hair and a nice honey trail!

Why do you mention 'pumped up gym look' in your post? When you work out you're not meant to neglect your legs or anything, it should still be in proportion.

iDave

old hippy wrote: »

Are you naked, Dave? :eek:

That explains the breeze

floggg

smash wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1030/nude-men-vienna.html

TLDR: Thousands of people are flocking to a museum to see hundreds of photos of naked men.

So if it was a museum full of images of naked women would it be art or pervy?

I'm pretty sure the same museum had an equivalent one for women recently with little or no fan fare.

It seems people get more exited over cock and balls than tits and vagina.

Edit - it might not have been the same museum. This article just talks about most exhibits of nudes being about females.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/10/18/naked-men-art-exhibit_n_1973591.html

There's an awful lot of muff in art though.

Shenshen

smash wrote: »

Dave, you're naked now aren't you...


They're not displayed as enormous posters in a museum though.

You don't go to a lot of museums, do you?

http://www.thelocal.de/gallery/culture/817/

http://www.praguepost.com/night-and-day/galleries/12746-exhibition-the-naked-and-the-nude.html

http://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2012/naked-before-the-camera

One of the reasons the Austrian museums have decided to put together this particular exhibition was the fact that the vast, vast majority of nudes in art, photography or other, are females.
From what I heard, it wasn't all that easy to even get enough artworks to fill the exhibition in the first place.

smash

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Do you think it would be pervy, smash?

Well only because that's how I'd look at it. Fine art maybe, but come on... I'd still be looking all at the bits!


/que 'come on' jokes.

shopaholic01

snausages wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it. The male form is a work of art.



Why do you mention 'pumped up gym look' in your post? When you work out you're not meant to neglect your legs or anything, it should still be in proportion.

I mean overly pumped-up - steroids etc., I just don't find it attractive. I don't mean fit and toned with some defined muscle. Apologies, I should have clarified.

Shenshen

smash wrote: »

Well only because that's how I'd look at it. Fine art maybe, but come on... I'd still be looking all at the bits!


/que 'come on' jokes.

It's art. That's what they're there for, as one of my art teachers with a particular fondness for Greek statues once said.

shopaholic01

smash wrote: »

Well only because that's how I'd look at it. Fine art maybe, but come on... I'd still be looking all at the bits!


/que 'come on' jokes.

But you would still appreciate it, which is the purpose of art.

kowloon

shopaholic01 wrote: »

It wouldn't be just the willy, though. I love the shape of a man's torso - broad shoulders and then it narrows to the hips, the shape of men's arms and legs due to greater muscle mass (natural, I hate the 'pumped-up' gym look) and it's even better if they have chest hair and a nice honey trail!

You're wrong though. Women are curvy and more interesting, like a Ferrari. Men are built like those old Volvo estates, fine if you need to move stuff, but harsh on the eyes.

Shenshen

kowloon wrote: »

You're wrong though. Women are curvy and more interesting, like a Ferrari. Men are built like those old Volvo estates, fine if you need to move stuff, but harsh on the eyes.

I've seen Ferraris and I take that as an insult.

Other than that I would agree with shopaholic01, though, men are beautiful to look at. I'm not that big a fan of hairiness, but I do agree with her on the shape of the torso, and the shape of the arms.
A male backside is a line of beauty.

shopaholic01

kowloon wrote: »

You're wrong though. Women are curvy and more interesting, like a Ferrari. Men are built like those old Volvo estates, fine if you need to move stuff, but harsh on the eyes.

As a straight woman I prefer a male body. That's not to say I can't admire the female form in a non-sexual way, but it would be more along the lines of 'I'd kill for those legs' etc. (I'm only 5ft 3'' and want long legs ).

JuliusCaesar

shopaholic01 wrote: »

It wouldn't be just the willy, though. I love the shape of a man's torso - broad shoulders and then it narrows to the hips, the shape of men's arms and legs due to greater muscle mass (natural, I hate the 'pumped-up' gym look) and it's even better if they have chest hair and a nice honey trail!

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kowloon

floggg wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the same museum had an equivalent one for women recently with little or no fan fare.

It seems people get more exited over cock and balls than tits and vagina.

Edit - it might not have been the same museum. This article just talks about most exhibits of nudes being about females.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/10/18/naked-men-art-exhibit_n_1973591.html

There's an awful lot of muff in art though.

It doesn't have the same degree of sexual connotation though. I think the female body is more likely to be seen as somehow being automatically pornographic. The gaze is definitely a real phenomenon. I don't think it applies so much to older media, but it's very obvious in film and static photography.

shopaholic01

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

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I've done it again!!! I meant happy trail.

smash

shopaholic01 wrote: »

But you would still appreciate it, which is the purpose of art.

I'd appreciate it like I appreciate penthouse in fairness.

shopaholic01

smash wrote: »

I'd appreciate it like I appreciate penthouse in fairness.

That's fair enough, there's no correct way to 'appreciate' art. Would you go to see the exhibition?

kowloon

shopaholic01 wrote: »

I've done it again!!! I meant happy trail.

I'm not googling that, what is it? Does it wag when it's happy?

Shenshen

kowloon wrote: »

It doesn't have the same degree of sexual connotation though. I think the female body is more likely to be seen as somehow being automatically pornographic. The gaze is definitely a real phenomenon. I don't think it applies so much to older media, but it's very obvious in film and static photography.

I'm not so sure there. I know that some of the pictures in that exhibition are of erect male members, so there is a definite erotic element to it.

If they put on an exhibition like this somewhere around here, I would definintely go and see it.

shopaholic01

kowloon wrote: »

I'm not googling that, what is it? Does it wag when it's happy?

Trail of hair from the navel down to pubic hair and genitalia.

Emeraldy Pebbles

smash wrote: »

So if it was a museum full of images of naked women would it be art or pervy?

Art. There's been probably countless exhibitions featuring both male and female nudes down the years, and probably down the ages.

smash

shopaholic01 wrote: »

That's fair enough, there's no correct way to 'appreciate' art. Would you go to see the exhibition?

The cock n balls expo? It wouldn't interest me.

shopaholic01

smash wrote: »

The cock n balls expo? It wouldn't interest me.

Would you go to a female one?

I would go to both - the male one to admire and the female one mainly to compare. I wonder would men compare themselves to the exhibits to the same extent women would?

Emeraldy Pebbles

Shenshen wrote: »

I'm not that big a fan of hairiness, but I do agree with her on the shape of the torso, and the shape of the arms.
A male backside is a line of beauty.

Gawd, what's wrong with you? Hairy men are the best! :pac:

Shenshen

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

Gawd, what's wrong with you? Hairy men are the best! :pac:

Fair enough, you can have my share so.

I just don't find it appealing, neither to look at nor to touch. And let's not even get started on getting hairs in your mouth in certain situations.

smash

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Would you go to a female one?

yep

shopaholic01 wrote: »

I would go to both - the male one to admire and the female one mainly to compare. I wonder would men compare themselves to the exhibits to the same extent women would?

Of course they would. I also do think it could actually be educational for people so they realise that not all men are hung like pornstars.

Shenshen wrote: »

And let's not even get started on getting hairs in your mouth in certain situations.

rimming? :pac:

Shenshen

smash wrote: »

rimming? :pac:

That's for me to know and you to guess

Duggy747

I went to an exhibition that had naked people in it, once.

Well...........they were dead and their skin was stripped off them..........