FireWorks.Should they be sold In ROI?

notnumber · 31-10-2012 09:07PM #1

Well tonight is the night,plenty of fireworks illuminating the night skies,dodgy house alarms going off and dogs undergoing nervous breakdowns due to the bangs.But shouldn't they be legalised?give retail a chance to increase their sales and hence the state benefits in VAT.At the moment the only people benefitting is the North and the black market.

Grayson · 31-10-2012 09:09PM

All I can hear right now is BANG BANG BANG

So no. They shouldn't be sold.

Actually to be fair, sell them to anyone any time except the two months before Halloween,

girl2 · 31-10-2012 09:12PM

I hate fireworks. People can be left blinded and animals terrorised with them. So no, they shouldn't be allowed to be sold.

TeddyTedson · 31-10-2012 09:12PM

Perhaps, but there should be a fireworks display on in a few places around the county to make an event of it.

Professey Chin · 31-10-2012 09:15PM

The things havent actually stopped since about half 5

31-10-2012 09:16PM

They wouldnt be cool anymore if they were legal

notnumber · 31-10-2012 09:17PM

girl2 wrote: »

I hate fireworks. People can be left blinded and animals terrorised with them. So no, they shouldn't be allowed to be sold.

I think we are all aware of the dangers but the fact they ain't sold here wont change that.Its not hard to buy them on the sly here as it is.But I would say only sell them for the week leading up to Halloween and to over 18's.

starviewadams · 31-10-2012 09:19PM

May aswell at this stage,kids have no bother getting their hands on them anyways.Council round here don't bother putting bonfires or displays on anymore either.

UCDVet · 31-10-2012 09:19PM

Maybe I'm just old and boring....but I don't see the point.

Now, I'm all for people doing whatever they want, so long as it doesn't negatively impact myself or others who do not want to be involved. If you've got a BIG plot of land and want to set off things that make a lot of noise - good for you!

The problem is that I live in Dublin. I don't think ANYONE here has enough land to set-off fireworks without disturbing other people.

Aside from that, there is the more practical problem of people hurting themselves (sometimes severely) with them. In a perfect world, I'd say if people want to risk their own safety - let them. But in the real world, lots of innocent people/children will be hurt because some kid's nephew's brother got them some fireworks....and when the kid does get hurt and gets the bill - we're all going to end up paying it.

Fireworks *are* dangerous. Unlike lots of other dangerous things, there isn't much of an argument for why we need them. Cars are dangerous but they help society function, they help things get delivered and help people get to work. We benefit from cars. Fireworks? Not so much.

I understand people want to celebrate or whatever....that's cool. Let the professionals handle the fireworks, take your family to see the show, and go home. It's much safer *and* would be confined to reasonable hours.

ChunkyLover_53 · 31-10-2012 09:21PM

Yes we should Legalise the sale of them...

...then tax the sh1t out of 'em like the smokes

anyone willing to rocket their money into the sky deserves to pay revenue for the privilige

notnumber · 31-10-2012 09:35PM

starviewadams wrote: »

.Council round here don't bother putting bonfires or displays on anymore either.

Yeah but the fireman have a busy night putting them out..The whole bonfire thing and the toxic crap they burn is far worse than fireworks.I didnt mind the fireworks and the pretty displays too much tbh for one night!
Unless their is a ban in the North, the state unable to control their sale should legalize,regulate and tax them but only to levels that make it unfeasible to go up North to get them.

questionmark? · 31-10-2012 10:02PM

Here in the UK they are of course legal. Strictly over 18's. Most places ask for ID for them if your look under 30. Having them in a public place is illegal (the police will follow this up) and letting them off at anti-social hours will lead to a prosecution for anti social behavour and/or getting kicked out of your house (unless you own it)

Result? Loads of fireworks going off early enough in the evening in private property and generally people not acting like pricks.

Sky King · 31-10-2012 10:03PM

It's gas, you always see them in NI riots though.

Nodin · 31-10-2012 10:14PM

notnumber wrote: »

Well tonight is the night,plenty of fireworks illuminating the night skies,dodgy house alarms going off and dogs undergoing nervous breakdowns due to the bangs.But shouldn't they be legalised?give retail a chance to increase their sales and hence the state benefits in VAT.At the moment the only people benefitting is the North and the black market.

..thread needs a poll tbh.

Dangerous Man · 31-10-2012 10:15PM

It doesn't matter. The rats would get their hands on them and do their usual rat business.

cloud_dancer · 31-10-2012 10:18PM

No I hate the things. The dog is going crazy all evening.

triple-M · 31-10-2012 10:24PM

are they illegal anywhere esle in europe?

TheUsual · 31-10-2012 10:25PM

Well they are sold. Just not legally.

I think we should man-up a bit and make better and more powerful fireworks here for a change.
Like ones that can be seen on google maps.

entropi · 31-10-2012 11:11PM

As much as the people legalising them might like the extra revenue to the state, and as much as I love a good firework, I still think they should be banned. There is no way of telling the knackers who will abuse their use, from the people who would gladly help set up a neighbourhood firework display for the locals.

Then there are the animals to think of, who are terrified come every Hallowe'en and stressed out of their minds.

eth0 · 31-10-2012 11:13PM

Yea they should, let the scobies have their night of fun. I'd be an awful curtain twitching doe juffy caller if I couldn't listen to a few 'pop' noises one night of the year.

Although I'm tempted to waste a cartridge of the shotgun just to let them know they're not the only fcukers who can make a bit of noise

Larianne · 31-10-2012 11:18PM

No. It would just increase the amount of fireworks the knacks would let off, leading to more injuries and damage.

At least now there's a limit to which they can buy.

smellslikeshoes · 31-10-2012 11:18PM

They are so omnipresent there really is no point in them being illegal. All it does is send a few million of profit up north every year.

afro man · 31-10-2012 11:22PM

Larianne wrote: »

No. It would just increase the amount of fireworks the knacks would let off, leading to more injuries and damage.

At least now there's a limit to which they can buy.

don't think there is any limit to what they can buy them seem to have no problem getting them.

The_Gatsby · 31-10-2012 11:24PM

The only people who want to buy fireworks these days are scumbag kids and even at that all they want is black cats to put in bins or stick in dog ****. Those kids need a good old catherine wheel up the hole, then they'd know about it.

notnumber · 31-10-2012 11:26PM

triple-M wrote: »

are they illegal anywhere esle in europe?

from a cursory glance at wiki seems they sold to consumers in many countries albeit with type of firework and age restrictions...apart from Ireland fails to mention any other country where they are illegal.

ISDW · 31-10-2012 11:32PM

questionmark? wrote: »

Here in the UK they are of course legal. Strictly over 18's. Most places ask for ID for them if your look under 30. Having them in a public place is illegal (the police will follow this up) and letting them off at anti-social hours will lead to a prosecution for anti social behavour and/or getting kicked out of your house (unless you own it)

Result? Loads of fireworks going off early enough in the evening in private property and generally people not acting like pricks.

You must live in a really nice place.

My brother was buying fireworks in England when he was about 14, he looked older, but no ID was ever asked for. Living in London, fireworks would be going off for over a month, at all times of the night. We then moved out to a quieter town in Somerset, still had to endure weeks of fireworks being set off by under age kids. The problems over there are just the same as here, its like alcohol, theres always someone who's old enough to buy them, and who wants to be cool with the kids, so will go into the shop with their money and get what they want.

miss no stars · 31-10-2012 11:43PM

It'd be nice if say, all local GAA clubs were allowed to purchase a supply and to have a small show. Then throw the book at anyone else who has them. That way there might not be so many of them.

My dog says no. He really doesn't want them sold here.

afro man · 31-10-2012 11:55PM

miss no stars wrote: »

It'd be nice if say, all local GAA clubs were allowed to purchase a supply and to have a small show. Then throw the book at anyone else who has them. That way there might not be so many of them.

My dog says no. He really doesn't want them sold here.

why only local gaa clubs :mad: plenty of local rugby / soccer clubs out there as well

the groutch · 31-10-2012 11:57PM

things like this are why they should never be made legal

(Note: Link contains graphic images that some people may find disturbing)

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dog-put-down-after-fireworks-savagery-2341207.html?start=2

previous user · 01-11-2012 12:03AM

yes fire is good

miss no stars · 01-11-2012 12:04AM

afro man wrote: »

why only local gaa clubs :mad: plenty of local rugby / soccer clubs out there as well

Cos pretty much every community seems to have one. Not every community has a rubgy or soccer club. proviso would be that they can't refuse admission to anyone unless they believe they're going to be a danger to other people/themselves. But whatever, one sports club from every community would do it. Big open space, too. Nice and safe. I'm not actually a big fan of GAA, much prefer rugby myself, but the reality is that GAA is throughout the country in pretty much the smallest of areas you'll see.

FireWorks.Should they be sold In ROI?

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