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Why do girls fall for w*nkers?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Spread wrote: »
    Lots of ladies like a bit of rough. Both in their social life and in the cot. Quite often the First Class Honours and Phd males are not too good at performing. Too busy studying during their sexually formative years.
    Except those guys usually end up pulling women half their age when they get a little older.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    I ask why get into relationship with such a person in the first place??

    From what I have seen of the Jeremy Kyle show I would imagine that the girls who appear on the show have little choice in the social circles they move in except in the level of wanker that they hook up with.
    I say this as a bloke.

    Most blokes are ****, so the probability of getting a good one are extremely slim.

    I disagree slightly. Most blokes have the predisposition to be **** and so many women have the predisposition to be doormats. Whether they eventually develop these diseases depends on so many things. Sometimes Mother Nature gets it wrong and a wanker is born in a female body and a doormat in a male body. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    You hear quite often that women like bad boys when their young and then they learn the errors of their ways and settle down with a nice guy.

    I think people just tell themselves that to feel better. I think women find pretty much the same fundamental characteristics sexually attractive throughout their life. When they settle down with the nice guy they still want to fukc the bad boy, that's why sex with the nice guy is often a chore.

    IMO women want excitement, fun and to experience a full range of emotions. The bad boy gives her this. Also the bad boy is more likely to do things to her in bed that she secretly wants but is afraid to ask for. The bad boy is assertive and dominant in general too, not just in bed. This makes her feel good to be around such a man. The bad boy doesn't repel her like the nice guy does with his overly needy/nice behaviours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    You hear quite often that women like bad boys when their young and then they learn the errors of their ways and settle down with a nice guy.

    I think people just tell themselves that to feel better. I think women find pretty much the same fundamental characteristics sexually attractive throughout their life. When they settle down with the nice guy they still want to fukc the bad boy, that's why sex with the nice guy is often a chore.

    IMO women want excitement, fun and to experience a full range of emotions. The bad boy gives her this. Also the bad boy is more likely to do things to her in bed that she secretly wants but is afraid to ask for. The bad boy is assertive and dominant in general too, not just in bed. This makes her feel good to be around such a man. The bad boy doesn't repel her like the nice guy does with his overly needy/nice behaviours.
    Ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    Unless they are lesbians, almost all girls fall for guys at some time in their lives.;)

    And ALL guys are ****.:):) Or liars.:cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    There are two reasons.

    Number one is: Women think they will change [their man] once they have sex, have children, move to a nice area, get a good job, etc either of or all and so on.

    Number Two: The stone age mentality still runs strong in women who, despite emancipation, still want that brute to club them over the head and drag them away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    Ok not all girls fall for w*nkers. Those that do, do so due to a number of reasons. Subconsciously they believe they are not worth the love from a nice guy and are afraid of having a positive, loving relationship and are therefore content with being treated badly. They may also come from a background where daddy was a w*nker and feel that it is normal, acceptable behaviour.
    I would run a mile from a bad guy and would have zilch interest in his games and attitude towards women, life is far far too short to waste on a w*nker!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    blacklilly wrote: »
    Ok not all girls fall for w*nkers. Those that do, do so due to a number of reasons. Subconsciously they believe they are not worth the love from a nice guy and are afraid of having a positive, loving relationship and are therefore content with being treated badly. They may also come from a background where daddy was a w*nker and feel that it is normal, acceptable behaviour.
    I would run a mile from a bad guy and would have zilch interest in his games and attitude towards women, life is far far too short to waste on a w*nker!

    Ok nice guys struggle to get women because women think they don't deserve those amazing nice guys. Yea sure, or maybe they just aren't as attractive. You're watching too much doctor Phil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Being tough or 'rough' is all relative. I spent 18 months working with junkies and alcoholics on the streets, and I always saw people working with me thinking that they were hard. These people were always the first to leg it in the end. Cause mayhem, let someone else deal with it. That's the way I see 'bad boys', cowards really.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Being tough or 'rough' is all relative. I spent 18 months working with junkies and alcoholics on the streets, and I always saw people working with me thinking that they were hard. These people were always the first to leg it in the end. Cause mayhem, let someone else deal with it. That's the way I see 'bad boys', cowards really.

    Sexy cowards


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    You hear quite often that women like bad boys when their young and then they learn the errors of their ways and settle down with a nice guy.

    I think people just tell themselves that to feel better. I think women find pretty much the same fundamental characteristics sexually attractive throughout their life. When they settle down with the nice guy they still want to fukc the bad boy, that's why sex with the nice guy is often a chore.

    IMO women want excitement, fun and to experience a full range of emotions. The bad boy gives her this. Also the bad boy is more likely to do things to her in bed that she secretly wants but is afraid to ask for. The bad boy is assertive and dominant in general too, not just in bed. This makes her feel good to be around such a man. The bad boy doesn't repel her like the nice guy does with his overly needy/nice behaviours.

    Good post, probably true and probably why I'll never get a girlfriend. I'm probably too nice but really its because I'm too boring. I don't drink and have a simple boring quiet life. If thats what women want then thats completely understandable, but I get the impression now that my personality simply isn't good enough to have girlfriend and I have to learn perhaps how to live with it.

    EDIT: Cue the typical ThomasFlynn negativity rant. Just getting it out of my system :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭Furious_George


    Spread wrote: »
    Lots of ladies like a bit of rough. Both in their social life and in the cot. Quite often the First Class Honours and Phd males are not too good at performing. Too busy studying during their sexually formative years.

    Eh dont make excuses for being dumb dude and doin **** in college. Some of us work hard, play hard, and stay hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    I would think it is because "****" are more likely to exibit traits of confidence than so called "nice guys". Maybe some of the women that might be more inclined to liking **** think they can change the wankery parts and keep the confident guy but are far less likely to get with a nice guy and inject him with some self worth and confidence.

    It also could be because there is more of a pool of "****" approaching the girl where the nice guys might sit on the sidelines and hesitate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!



    Good post, probably true and probably why I'll never get a girlfriend. I'm probably too nice but really its because I'm too boring. I don't drink and have a simple boring quiet life. If thats what women want then thats completely understandable, but I get the impression now that my personality simply isn't good enough to have girlfriend and I have to learn perhaps how to live with it.
    How old are you?
    Saying you'll never get a girlfriend because you're too nice is just a really bad excuse.
    If you really want to meet someone then you have to try. A woman not just gonna fall into your lap while you're playing Xbox.
    If you can't meet a girl, then you're hanging out in the wrong area or with the wrong people. Go places that will have like-minded people there too and mingle as best you can. It'll all work out in the end.
    Oh an don't forget to wear Sex Panther. They've done studies you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Dean09 wrote: »
    How old are you?
    Saying you'll never get a girlfriend because you're too nice is just a really bad excuse.
    If you really want to meet someone then you have to try. A woman not just gonna fall into your lap while you're playing Xbox.
    If you can't meet a girl, then you're hanging out in the wrong area or with the wrong people. Go places that will have like-minded people there too and mingle as best you can. It'll all work out in the end.
    Oh an don't forget to wear Sex Panther. They've done studies you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.

    I'm 26 and virtually have no experiance. Mainly due to social problems, i.e. by being a major social recluse through my teens and early 20s which I'm finally trying to change. Still I get very downbeat about my prospects occassionally but thats part of my therapy I suppose. I've never asked a girl out before or chatted one up because I'm convinced they would find me a freak so haven't bothered.

    Googles "sex panther". You're tempting me! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Good post, probably true and probably why I'll never get a girlfriend. I'm probably too nice but really its because I'm too boring. I don't drink and have a simple boring quiet life. If thats what women want then thats completely understandable, but I get the impression now that my personality simply isn't good enough to have girlfriend and I have to learn perhaps how to live with it.

    EDIT: Cue the typical ThomasFlynn negativity rant. Just getting it out of my system :pac:

    The poster you're responding to is talking about a certain kind of woman, and even then is making vast generalisations, either based on his own insecurities or his own sense of inflated ego. All you need is a bit of confidence. I live a fairly boring life but still get out and meet people, sometimes leading to relationships and the like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!



    I'm 26 and virtually have no experiance. Mainly due to social problems, i.e. by being a major social recluse through my teens and early 20s which I'm finally trying to change. Still I get very downbeat about my prospects occassionally but thats part of my therapy I suppose. I've never asked a girl out before or chatted one up because I'm convinced they would find me a freak so haven't bothered.

    Googles "sex panther". You're tempting me! :pac:
    My guess is you're worrying about it too much. If you go out with the sole intention of impressing people /meeting a girl /making new friends, you'll never get anywhere. Your best bet is to just go out to a place where you'd be comfortable and just relax, be yourself, and have fun. I know this may be easier said than done but you'll get there. Eventually, if you learn to relax, things will fall into place for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly



    Ok nice guys struggle to get women because women think they don't deserve those amazing nice guys. Yea sure, or maybe they just aren't as attractive. You're watching too much doctor Phil.

    Any nice guy I know is taken, where are all these nice single guys? I could do with finding one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Like whatever happened to chivalry. Whatever happened to treating a person with respect, dignity and concern.
    Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    **** don't go around wearing a sign saying 'Im a wanker'. This happens first...
    Larianne wrote: »
    Insecurity

    Wanting to feel loved

    Not wanting to be alone

    Not strong enough to leave

    Lucky ones manage to get away.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Eh dont make excuses for being dumb dude and doin **** in college. Some of us work hard, play hard, and stay hard.

    Now George, calm down. I said "some". And if you stay hard after playing hard ........ you seem to have a problem trying to ejaculate. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Dean09 wrote: »
    Your best bet is to just go out to a place where you'd be comfortable and just relax, be yourself, and have fun.

    I'd agree, completely. I think 'confidence' for some is actually people just relaxing and not over-thinking situations which then seems to other people as confidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭cheesefiend


    Why are there so many threads about girls falling for bad boys and never any about how many nice guys fall for absolute bitches who treat them terribly. Most people have absolutely no sense when it comes to the opposite sex, it's frustrating but not just a female phenomenon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    Why are there so many threads about girls falling for bad boys and never any about how many nice guys fall for absolute bitches who treat them terribly. Most people have absolutely no sense when it comes to the opposite sex, it's frustrating but not just a female phenomenon.

    because then it would become a sexism thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Ellsbells


    In my opinion you would have to be an awful moron to go for a 'bad boy'!!! On top of that if you choose to be treated like cr@p by staying with an a$$hole then don't complain about it and don't blame low self esteem. It's not low self esteem it's just stupidity.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd



    I'm 26 and virtually have no experiance. Mainly due to social problems, i.e. by being a major social recluse through my teens and early 20s which I'm finally trying to change. Still I get very downbeat about my prospects occassionally but thats part of my therapy I suppose. I've never asked a girl out before or chatted one up because I'm convinced they would find me a freak so haven't bothered.

    Googles "sex panther". You're tempting me! :pac:

    Well most men will never get a girlfriend if they don't try talking to women. Chatting women up is a skillet which can be improved upon. Go out and practice and have fun, and stop trying to impress them, see if they are good enough for you. Lighten up and have fun, everyone gets rejected, see the funny side of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭trodsky


    Because they tend to drink a lot and hence stronger farts.

    The wimmens love the farts. Simples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Ok nice guys struggle to get women because women think they don't deserve those amazing nice guys. Yea sure, or maybe they just aren't as attractive. You're watching too much doctor Phil.

    And you're reading too much Fifty Shades of Grey.
    You hear quite often that women like bad boys when their young and then they learn the errors of their ways and settle down with a nice guy.

    I think people just tell themselves that to feel better. I think women find pretty much the same fundamental characteristics sexually attractive throughout their life. When they settle down with the nice guy they still want to fukc the bad boy, that's why sex with the nice guy is often a chore.

    IMO women want excitement, fun and to experience a full range of emotions. The bad boy gives her this. Also the bad boy is more likely to do things to her in bed that she secretly wants but is afraid to ask for. The bad boy is assertive and dominant in general too, not just in bed. This makes her feel good to be around such a man. The bad boy doesn't repel her like the nice guy does with his overly needy/nice behaviours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    because then it would become a sexism thread
    And this isn't?

    What's with the "we lads are bastards" crap too btw? No need to project your weakness of character onto all other men. There's misandry on AH all right - but it ain't coming from women.
    Ellsbells wrote: »
    In my opinion you would have to be an awful moron to go for a 'bad boy'!!! On top of that if you choose to be treated like cr@p by staying with an a$$hole then don't complain about it and don't blame low self esteem. It's not low self esteem it's just stupidity.
    It is low self esteem. Can be stupidity also though, but plenty of intelligent people love someone who treats them like sh1t. It doesn't make sense but lots of things don't.

    Lol too at the false "bad boy v nice guy" dichotomy. As if they're the only types of men in existence. Being kind, caring etc does not automatically mean being a doormat; being filthy in the sack does not mean being a bad boy; a guy doesn't have to be a bad boy for a girl to feel comfortable asking him to do nasty stuff to her in bed; a guy doesn't have to be a bad boy to be confident and content in himself and able to stand up for himself.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 179 ✭✭King Of Wishful Thinking


    Madam_X wrote: »
    And this isn't?

    How is it sexist to discuss a phenomenon?
    There's misandry on AH all right - but it ain't coming from women.

    This was the only post so far, which I feel qualifies as such:
    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    And ALL guys are ****.:):) Or liars.:cool:

    Think the above is said somewhat tongue in cheek, so didn't report it but I wonder how it would be received if the following was written:
    Someguy wrote: »
    And ALL women are bitches.:):) Or liars.:cool:



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