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Why do girls fall for w*nkers?

  • 26-10-2012 9:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭


    Its probably been done to death but its something that always made me wonder.

    I must admit with great shame that last night when bored with nothing to do I stumbled upon a few Jeremy Kyle Show clips on youtube and the characters in it really got me thinking. Why is it that girls/women end up falling for people who are absolute scum of the society. There seem to be lots stories of girls who are in a relationship with some drug addict drunk scum in a gang and then the girl keeps complaining of how horrible her boyfriend is and how he beats her up or keeps cheating on her etc. Like what did the girl expect when she decided to get into a relationship with such kind of a person. A person who doesn't know how to treat people with respect is hardly going to treat his girlfriend with respect. And then you hear stories of people in abusive relationship and children growing up in traumatic households and all the psychological issues they end up facing.

    I ask why get into relationship with such a person in the first place??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    Because winking is a sign that someone likes you.

    I wink a lot, I'm actually winking right now and I get my fair share of the wimmins. Wink at girls more OP, they love it and if you're lucky they might actually give you a wink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Insecurity

    Wanting to feel loved

    Not wanting to be alone

    Not strong enough to leave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Because they're fat and ugly.....true story;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Its probably been done to death but its something that always made me wonder.

    I must admit with great shame that last night when bored with nothing to do I stumbled upon a few Jeremy Kyle Show clips on youtube and the characters in it really got me thinking. Why is it that girls/women end up falling for people who are absolute scum of the society. There seem to be lots stories of girls who are in a relationship with some drug addict drunk scum in a gang and then the girl keeps complaining of how horrible her boyfriend is and how he beats her up or keeps cheating on her etc. Like what did the girl expect when she decided to get into a relationship with such kind of a person. A person who doesn't know how to treat people with respect is hardly going to treat his girlfriend with respect. And then you hear stories of people in abusive relationship and children growing up in traumatic households and all the psychological issues they end up facing.

    I ask why get into relationship with such a person in the first place??
    We judge relationships from our experiences - if your parents are in a dysfunctional relationship that becomes normal for you.

    Jeremy Kyle and his cohorts are probably not the most reliable source of real life stories either.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Culleeo


    Its probably been done to death but its something that always made me wonder.

    I must admit with great shame that last night when bored with nothing to do I stumbled upon a few Jeremy Kyle Show clips on youtube and the characters in it really got me thinking. Why is it that girls/women end up falling for people who are absolute scum of the society. There seem to be lots stories of girls who are in a relationship with some drug addict drunk scum in a gang and then the girl keeps complaining of how horrible her boyfriend is and how he beats her up or keeps cheating on her etc. Like what did the girl expect when she decided to get into a relationship with such kind of a person. A person who doesn't know how to treat people with respect is hardly going to treat his girlfriend with respect. And then you hear stories of people in abusive relationship and children growing up in traumatic households and all the psychological issues they end up facing.

    I ask why get into relationship with such a person in the first place??

    The majority of women that go out with these guys are scum too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭RossyG


    Some younger women fall for w*nkers because...

    1. They are attracted by assertive types but can't tell the difference between a decent alpha male and an aggressive w*nker.

    2. They like the idea of taming a bad boy, even though they are probably doomed to fail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    I think it's a mix of extremely low self esteem & the notion that they can change their fella.
    Put something on the end of it sunshine :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    - Because it's not always obvious they're **** at the start

    - Because they're good in bed

    - Because the girls think they can change them/want to believe the guy is so in love with them he'll change his ways


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    because they like being treated like crap and all the attention that comes with it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    RossyG wrote: »
    Some younger women fall for w*nkers because...

    1. They are attracted by assertive types but can't tell the difference between a decent alpha male and an aggressive w*nker.

    2. They like the idea of taming a bad boy, even though they are probably doomed to fail.

    Think this post sums up my thoughts nicely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭reginald


    W*nkers love moustache's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Drama llamas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    because these "w@nkers" will ride anything with a pulse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Madam_X wrote: »
    - Because it's not always obvious they're **** at the start

    - Because they're good in bed

    Well any guy who spends the day loitering around with his gang of hoodlums harassing innocent people and doesn't have the faintest concept of what respect entails, couldn't be anything other than a wanker.

    I don't quite get the whole alpha male, "treat your women like trash and she'll come running after you" type too.

    Like whatever happened to chivalry. Whatever happened to treating a person with respect, dignity and concern.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    C*nts love ****.

    For some reason that reminded me of (from the Simpsons)

    Hens love Roosters,
    Geese love Ganders,
    Everybody else loves Ned Flanders!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    I say this as a bloke.

    Most blokes are ****, so the probability of getting a good one are extremely slim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    I say this as a bloke.

    Most blokes are ****, so the probability of getting a good one are extremely slim.

    I'm sound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    A lot of women like confidence in a man.

    Not all confident people are ****, but most **** appear to be confident (though it can sometimes just be a front).

    Therefore it can appear that many women are attracted to ****, though I'd say that most of the women I know hate ****.

    But then, none of the women I know would go on The Jeremy Kyle Show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    because they like being treated like crap and all the attention that comes with it
    I'd say it's more that they like the guy when he's being nice and they cling to that.
    Well any guy who spends the day loitering around with his gang of hoodlums harassing innocent people and doesn't have the faintest concept of what respect entails, couldn't be anything other than a wanker.
    I don't quite get the whole alpha male, "treat your women like trash and she'll come running after you" type too.
    I don't either but it's more complex than that. Re your first paragraph: I'm speaking in general, not just re Jeremy Kyle peeps.
    RikkFlair wrote: »
    C*nts love ****.

    For some reason that reminded me of (from the Simpsons)

    Hens love Roosters,
    Geese love Ganders,
    Everybody else loves Ned Flanders!
    Lol. I don't think c*nts necessarily love **** at all though. People with low self esteem don't always aren't always c*nts.
    I say this as a bloke.

    Most blokes are ****, so the probability of getting a good one are extremely slim.
    I disagree. Most men are not ****.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 179 ✭✭King Of Wishful Thinking




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    I read somewhere that chemically there is very similar endorphins and adrenalin released when you have pain or drama as is released when you are madly in love.
    Guess your body could enjoy that reaction be it good OR bad.

    I do also think its harder to split with someone who treats you bad as opposed a nice guy.

    Women are weird (usually!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Madam_X wrote: »
    - Because they're good in bed

    Damn, forgot this one!!
    Drama llamas.

    You're dead right!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    I read somewhere that chemically there is very similar endorphins and adrenalin released when you have pain or drama as is released when you are madly in love.
    Guess your body could enjoy that reaction be it good OR bad.

    I do also think its harder to split with someone who treats you bad as opposed a nice guy.

    Women are weird (usually!)

    I don't understand, when the issue of what women find attractive arises, why a false dichotomy between either assholes or nice guys is always brought up.

    Most men and women fall somewhere along the broad spectrum between the two extremes. Why don't they ever get a mention?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    **** and bad yokes are often emotionally needy, the persona they portray is an attempt to mask their own insecurities. Do woman like mothering these chaps? That's one of my theories

    The other is the alpha male thing, people who rise to the top and gain positions of power are seen as wanker material. Often unfairly, where their people skills are sometimes lacking their ambition is not, ambition is an attractive quality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    People on the Jeremy Kyle show are the cream of the crop. He has a top class vetting procedure to select the elite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Madam_X wrote: »
    - Because it's not always obvious they're **** at the start

    - Because they're good in bed

    - Because the girls think they can change them/want to believe the guy is so in love with them he'll change his ways

    Wait...Really?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    Phoenix wrote: »
    As am I

    Yeah but I'm a lying a**hole! :P

    You on the other hand, are as sound as a pound that ya found on the ground!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Rigol


    Drama llamas.

    Definite truth behind this. They've been raised on 'days of our lives'.

    TV and gutter media has fked society so so bad. A huge number of people take their values, the core of who they aspire to be from the worst depths of the sht bucket.

    If I ever have kids im going to be that tweed wearing culture bore father who won't let his kids have Gta3 or mcdonalds.

    Nope, It's fun family based geography day trips and visits to pen factories for us. Better Rodd and Todd than two little w4angster rappers with onions on their belts and tribal tattoos they can't read themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Because losers are too fussy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Rigol wrote: »
    Definite truth behind this. They've been raised on 'days of our lives'.

    TV and gutter media has fked society so so bad. A huge number of people take their values, the core of who they aspire to be from the worst depths of the sht bucket.

    If I ever have kids im going to be that tweed wearing culture bore father who won't let his kids have Gta3 or mcdonalds.

    Nope, It's fun family based geography day trips and visits to pen factories for us. Better Rodd and Todd than two little w4angster rappers with onions on their belts and tribal tattoos they can't read themselves.

    Oooh, are you single? You sound like fun. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Rigol wrote: »
    If I ever have kids im going to be that tweed wearing culture bore father who won't let his kids have Gta3 or mcdonalds.

    GTA20 will probably be out by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Rigol


    Thrill wrote: »
    GTA20 will probably be out by then.

    So will the 175th anniversary Joyce collection. Put down the broadsheets Oisinn and Fionnula, get ready for some awesomeness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Because winking is a sign that someone likes you.

    I wink a lot, I'm actually winking right now and I get my fair share of the wimmins. Wink at girls more OP, they love it and if you're lucky they might actually give you a wink.
    you sure you're spelling wink right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    because these "w@nkers" will ride anything with a pulse
    well necrophilia is hardly the solution?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭tempura


    RikkFlair wrote: »
    C*nts love ****.

    For some reason that reminded me of (from the Simpsons)

    Hens love Roosters,
    Geese love Ganders,
    Everybody else loves Ned Flanders!

    I like this answer the best !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Its probably been done to death but its something that always made me wonder.

    I must admit with great shame that last night when bored with nothing to do I stumbled upon a few Jeremy Kyle Show clips on youtube and the characters in it really got me thinking. Why is it that girls/women end up falling for people who are absolute scum of the society. There seem to be lots stories of girls who are in a relationship with some drug addict drunk scum in a gang and then the girl keeps complaining of how horrible her boyfriend is and how he beats her up or keeps cheating on her etc. Like what did the girl expect when she decided to get into a relationship with such kind of a person. A person who doesn't know how to treat people with respect is hardly going to treat his girlfriend with respect. And then you hear stories of people in abusive relationship and children growing up in traumatic households and all the psychological issues they end up facing.

    I ask why get into relationship with such a person in the first place??

    Your post Girl ?

    Eve hear of paragraphs ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Your post Girl ?

    Eve hear of paragraphs ?
    Ever hear of 'r'?

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭TheBegotten


    Water finds its own level. I hate it when people say "women want" or "men have". The statements are simply too broad to define half of the population. My friend pointed out a lout in our class (he's fairly outspoken; I say friend loosely) and said "Look at him, complete and utter waster and still up to his neck in women." I just replied "Yeah, but their HIS type of women." To be honest, I couldn't stand being with a woman who wouldn't still be a friend if she were a man.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Some women, not all,some are genuine cases of picking the wrong guy but some just love the drama, simple as that.

    I know loads of girls who wind up their men/parents/friends on a regular basis just to have a story to tell about how so and so said this and that and they got kicked out/punched/drunk etc etc and it was totally not her fault, she was just minding her own business.

    Everyone knows that girl that can't go anywhere without causing a huge drama scene, usually while blotto drunk.
    Stands to reason they'd be attracted to a douchebag for his drama potential.

    It's all attention seeking at the end of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    ALL men are ****.

    I'd be seriously thinking there was something wrong with him if he wasn't letting some steam off every now and again :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    Why do lads fall for controlling bitches?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Phoenix wrote: »
    I find that rather offensive,my gender does not dictate who i am
    I live by my own code vires et honestas,strength and honour,

    And by that I meant actual ****. I'd like to see how you deny that :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Sharrow wrote: »
    Why do lads fall for controlling bitches?

    Because we like mammy to remind us to eat our breakfast every morning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭TheBegotten


    1ZRed wrote: »
    ALL men are ****.

    I'd be seriously thinking there was something wrong with him if he wasn't

    Some of us don't need to. *slips on shades; guns motorbike.*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Some of us don't need to. *slips on shades; guns motorbike.*

    Even if I was getting it three times a day I still would be


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 179 ✭✭King Of Wishful Thinking


    Sharrow wrote: »
    Why do lads fall for controlling bitches?

    They don't, well not anywhere near the same degree that women go for tossers. You often hear women admit themselves sure, that they can't help but love bad boys and bastards. When have you ever heard a man say that he loves bad bitches, let alone controlling ones?

    On the contrary, guys will quite often say how there is nothing sexier that friendly girls and for the same reason that it's well known that if guys are nice and friendly, more often than not they will end up in the friend zone.


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