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Time for parents to be jailed for kids crimes!!

  • 24-10-2012 11:23AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭mel1


    A truly shocking story on the front of Wednesday's paper. A four-year-old boy has been raped by two boys, aged eight and nine. Read the full story only in the Mirror...

    WTF. Why are parents not being jailed for this, its as much their fault as those children who did the act. Pure bad parenting is to blame IMO!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    People should be jailed for idiocy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    mel1 wrote: »
    A truly shocking story on the front of Wednesday's paper. A four-year-old boy has been raped by two boys, aged eight and nine. Read the full story only in the Mirror...

    WTF. Why are parents not being jailed for this, its as much their fault as those children who did the act. Pure bad parenting is to blame IMO!

    How exactly are the parents to blame?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Yeah heard that on the radio this morning, one of the most fcked up things i've heard while eating my cornflakes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    I heard this on the radio this am and his two yr old brother was sexually assaulted, sickening tbh.
    I think parents are to blame for parenting and what they are allowing kids watch on tv but jailing them is a stretch to far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭mel1


    LizT wrote: »
    How exactly are the parents to blame?

    Who else is responsible for teaching their children basic life morals?

    If my child smashes your car window you will come to me looking for someone to take responsibility for the cost of replaceing it! Same should apply to parenting.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    mel1 wrote: »
    A truly shocking story on the front of Wednesday's paper. A four-year-old boy has been raped by two boys, aged eight and nine. Read the full story only in the Mirror...

    WTF. Why are parents not being jailed for this, its as much their fault as those children who did the act. Pure bad parenting is to blame IMO!

    Your patents should be jailed for having you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    We should be born into jail and allowed out when we've proved ourselves.

    Then we'd never need to discuss this issue again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Floggers


    LizT wrote: »
    How exactly are the parents to blame?

    How would an 8/9 year old know what rape is, never mind have the where with all to actually perform the act?

    I understand were the OP is coming from, the parents have to take responsability for a child that young doing something like that, it shouldn't be a part of an 8/9 year olds life!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭mel1


    anncoates wrote: »
    Your patents should be jailed for having you.

    what relevance does that have to the conversation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Are eight year olds even phsyically capable of rape?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    mel1 wrote: »
    A truly shocking story on the front of Wednesday's paper. A four-year-old boy has been raped by two boys, aged eight and nine. Read the full story only in the Mirror...

    WTF. Why are parents not being jailed for this, its as much their fault as those children who did the act. Pure bad parenting is to blame IMO!

    Because they didn't do it.

    The children may have done it due to their bad parenting but children can be vicious of their own accord

    Ridiculous thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Totally agree, if a child is so fu cked up that they would do something like that then only the parents are to blame. You do not pick something of that nature up from tv, books or the playground. It's coming from closer to home and so the parenting skills or lack if them are responsible. The parents should be tried and sentenced for the crimes. The child needs to be removed from society and "re-programmed"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    mel1 wrote: »
    A truly shocking story on the front of Wednesday's paper. A four-year-old boy has been raped by two boys, aged eight and nine. Read the full story only in the Mirror...
    Do you work for The Mirror or something? Are you just trying to get us to run out and buy a copy?

    If so, may I suggest giving away a free CD or DVD as a way to increase sales? Much better than "exclusive" stories of children being raped by other children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    Bring the priests and nuns back to deal with the unruly kids.

    it would soften their cough and anal passage at the same time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    mel1 wrote: »

    what relevance does that have to the conversation?

    That premise erroneously assumes there was any relevance in this thread to begin with.

    I'm merely adding more idiocy to an already cretinous mix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    I dont think jailing the parents will sort the kids out.

    Taking the kids away from the parents might though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭tipptopper


    mel1 wrote: »
    A truly shocking story on the front of Wednesday's paper. A four-year-old boy has been raped by two boys, aged eight and nine. Read the full story only in the Mirror...

    WTF. Why are parents not being jailed for this, its as much their fault as those children who did the act. Pure bad parenting is to blame IMO!

    The Mirror?

    I wouldn't use that rag to wipe my arse, never mind buy a copy of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    mel1 wrote: »
    A truly shocking story on the front of Wednesday's paper. A four-year-old boy has been raped by two boys, aged eight and nine. Read the full story only in the Mirror...

    WTF. Why are parents not being jailed for this, its as much their fault as those children who did the act. Pure bad parenting is to blame IMO!
    Stupiest post I have ever read, what next? Jail the sister if the brother does a crime, jail the wife if the husband embezzels?
    You can't go around jailing one person for the unforeseen actions of another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    mel1 wrote: »
    A truly shocking story on the front of Wednesday's paper. A four-year-old boy has been raped by two boys, aged eight and nine. Read the full story only in the Mirror...

    WTF. Why are parents not being jailed for this, its as much their fault as those children who did the act. Pure bad parenting is to blame IMO!

    Way back when, my then four-year-old son swung a Coca-Cola bottle at a very large shop window in very hot weather and the thing (the window) cracked right down the middle.:eek:

    Fortunately, my home insurance covered the bill, which was quite substantial, and that was the end of the matter.:)

    That was in another country, but on the same planet.;)

    And not the one the OP seems to live on.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    mel1 wrote: »
    Why are parents not being jailed for this, its as much their fault as those children who did the act. Pure bad parenting is to blame IMO!

    What a truly idiotic statement. The parents did not commit the crime, and you have no idea how they parent their children. Some people are just born sickos.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Jogathon


    I would question whether the 8 and 9 year old boys would currently be exposed to sexual abuse themselves. I do feel that parents need to be held more responsible than they currently are. However, in this case (without knowing any facts and going in completely blind so no doubt this will be very contentious), I would advocate taking the older boys into care as I don't believe that they have a safe home environment.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Paris Scrawny Advisor


    Just like the Taliban "severely disciplining" a man if his wife is found washing her clothes or whatever other sh!te they don't like. Great plan!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭slarkin123


    Jogathon wrote: »
    I would question whether the 8 and 9 year old boys would currently be exposed to sexual abuse themselves. I do feel that parents need to be held more responsible than they currently are. However, in this case (without knowing any facts and going in completely blind so no doubt this will be very contentious), I would advocate taking the older boys into care as I don't believe that they have a safe home environment.

    Having an 8 year old myself, the first thing that popped into my mind was what could have been going on in these boys lives for them to even know about something like rape. I think we'll find out that they are victims as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭mel1


    smash wrote: »
    What a truly idiotic statement. The parents did not commit the crime, and you have no idea how they parent their children. Some people are just born sickos.


    These are not people they are children, as such they have been moulded by their parents!

    When my kids are praised for being polite, plesent, proper good kids i hold my head up and am proud because its by my guidence that they have been taught all these things by me! Same is to be said about kids who are ill mannered and badly rared. They got that way at home, looking at their parents, siblings and immidate family with who they have been rared with.
    Teachers have not taught them these things.
    playground has not taught them these things.

    Where do you think they have had access to this kind of behaviour? Wake up people!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Floggers


    slarkin123 wrote: »
    Having an 8 year old myself, the first thing that popped into my mind was what could have been going on in these boys lives for them to even know about something like rape. I think we'll find out that they are victims as well.

    I agree completely, there is no way a child of 8/9 should now anything about rape. The parents have to take respomsibility for their child being exposed to the subject and for it to get to the stage of actually performing the act.

    How did the kids hear about Rape? Who was telling them about it? How did the converstaion occur about raping another kid? Why were the parents not monitoring their childrens behaviour or who they were associating with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,911 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    LizT wrote: »
    How exactly are the parents to blame?

    You made that thing, so do the rest of the world a fairer and look after your spawn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    I have a 9 year old boy.
    Fairly sure he wouldn't be able to do that - physically and logistically like.:confused:

    Also, why would a child do this? They must be exposed to something they shouldn't be, or being abused themselves - no other way - a 9 year old doesn't just know about sex and how to do it etc...

    My first thought when I read op was - god, what a stupid post.
    But in this particular case, maybe it's not so stupid.
    The parents need to be looked at very closely here imo.
    It would be different if the kids were in their teens - but 8 and 9 years olds shouldn't know how to do such things.

    I also have a 4 year old, so the thoughts of what happened to that small child make me very sad :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    mel1 wrote: »
    These are not people they are children, as such they have been moulded by their parents!

    When my kids are praised for being polite, plesent, proper good kids i hold my head up and am proud because its by my guidence that they have been taught all these things by me! Same is to be said about kids who are ill mannered and badly rared. They got that way at home, looking at their parents, siblings and immidate family with who they have been rared with.
    Teachers have not taught them these things.
    playground has not taught them these things.

    Where do you think they have had access to this kind of behaviour? Wake up people!

    You realise how much kids learn in a playground or in school from other kids right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    People should be jailed for idiocy.


    We dont have the room


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    BizzyC wrote: »
    I dont think jailing the parents will sort the kids out.

    Taking the kids away from the parents might though


    And put them where?


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