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Do you Speak Irish?

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  • #242
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,984 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Are you now resorting to trying to imply me and IWasFrozen are the same person? Classic....

    EDIT: And to add, he was responding to your response to a quote from his last post....

    DOUBLE EDIT: Whoops, you delete your post then?


  • #243
    An Coilean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    HAHAHAHA. Are you now resorting to trying to imply me and IWasFrozen are the same person? Classic....

    EDIT: And to add, he was responding to your response to a quote from his last post....


    My mistake, missed a fullstop in his post that made it seem like he was responding as you.

    Anyway, as I said, the same bilingual system is being used by Tesco in Wales, you could just send them an Email and ask if they keep track of that information. If they do, they most likely will here too.


  • #244
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    An Coilean wrote: »
    My mistake, missed a fullstop in his post that made it seem like he was responding as you.

    Anyway, as I said, the same bilingual system is being used by Tesco in Wales, you could just send them an Email and ask if they keep track of that information. If they do, they most likely will here too.
    Well I assume they would. Why wouldn't they really? It would cost very little and usually firms will want to keep track of anything new.


  • #245
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    seamus wrote: »
    What shocks me most is that nearly everyone spends 13 years learning the language and the vast majority of people leave school barely able to string a sentence or two together. In 13 years we should all be fluent.

    Kinda indicative of the way languages are taught in Irish schools in general, not just Irish, you are thought to pass an exam, not to speak a language, it's ****ing retarded.


  • #246
    An Coilean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Kinda indicative of the way languages are taught in Irish schools in general, not just Irish, you are thought to pass an exam, not to speak a language, it's ****ing retarded.


    Well actually, the total time spent teaching Irish in schools is not enough to gain fluency, how its taught doesn't help, but even if it was taught very well, there would still not be enough class time to produce fluent speakers.


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  • #247
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I know its been mentioned before in other similar threads, but I wonder is it at all possible to find out how often the 'Gaeilge' button is used on Bank Cash Point (ATM) machines. I'd say it cost a fair amount to have all the machines kitted and fitted out 'as gaeilge' - Curious.


  • #248
    NinjaK
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭NinjaK


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I know its been mentioned before in other similar threads, but I wonder is it at all possible to find out how often the 'Gaeilge' button is used on Bank Cash Point (ATM) machines. I'd say it cost a fair amount to have all the machines kitted and fitted out 'as gaeilge' - Curious.

    yeah, I say it costs a fortune :rolleyes:


  • #249
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    NinjaK wrote: »
    yeah, I say it costs a fortune :rolleyes:
    Even if it doesn't it's still a doubling of services.


  • #250
    An Coilean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    NinjaK wrote: »
    yeah, I say it costs a fortune :rolleyes:


    I see a new book in the making, 'Gaeilge - The true cause of the Banking Crisis'.:D


  • #251
    An Coilean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Even if it doesn't it's still a doubling of services.


    You say that like its a problem? Do you think it is?

    Why Irish speakers having the option to use Irish is a bad thing is baffeling to me, really.


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  • #252
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    An Coilean wrote: »
    You say that like its a problem? Do you think it is?

    Why Irish speakers having the option to use Irish is a bad thing is baffeling to me, really.
    It's not a bad thing. Just that it costs money and the banks are no longer private in case you haven't noticed. Tesco on the other hand is a different story. What they choose to do with their own money is none of my business.


  • #253
    An Coilean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    It's not a bad thing. Just that it costs money and the banks are no longer private in case you haven't noticed. Tesco on the other hand is a different story. What they choose to do with their own money is none of my business.


    Do you think it costs money to have two language options on an ATM machine? Where is the cost after the initial translation?


  • #254
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    An Coilean wrote: »
    Do you think it costs money to have two language options on an ATM machine?
    Of course.
    An Coilean wrote: »
    Where is the cost after the initial translation?
    Very little I assume.


  • #255
    An Coilean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Very little I assume.

    Verry Little? I can't see any cost at all.

    So whats the problem then?


  • #256
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    An Coilean wrote: »
    Verry Little? I can't see any cost at all.

    So whats the problem then?
    Because there is an initial cost of translation. Don't get me wrong when public companies choose to provide these services from their own back pocket I don't care. I only get annoyed when public money is spent on Irish.


  • #257
    An Coilean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Because there is an initial cost of translation. Don't get me wrong when public companies choose to provide these services from their own back pocket I don't care. I only get annoyed when public money is spent on Irish.


    Why are you talking about ATM's then? The translation was done before public money was invested pissed away on the banks.


  • #258
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    An Coilean wrote: »
    Why are you talking about ATM's then? The translation was done before public money was invested pissed away on the banks.
    I'm sure there have been ATM's erected since the bailout. Interesting question here Coilean. If the self service checkout isn't working are you going to insist on speaking irish to the poor polish girl behind the counter?


  • #259
    An Coilean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I'm sure there have been ATM's erected since the bailout. Interesting question here Coilean. If the self service checkout isn't working are you going to insist on speaking irish to the poor polish girl behind the counter?


    You don't have to re-translate every time you erect a new ATM. You just install the software with both languages into new ATMs, where is the added cost of having Irish for new ATMs?

    Still waiting to see Tesco's plan, should be released next week. They may have Irish speaking staff in their stores, as they do in Wales.


  • #260
    purplepanda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Are there any Welsh equivalents to the dreaded Gaelgiors? (sp) :eek:

    Whenever I met Welsh people they often encourage you to try & speak the language, they have a fun attitude regarding that.

    I probably know more odd pieces of Welsh due to the in laws than I do Irish!:D And they are from Cardiff & not fluent speakers!

    Some of my friends have Irish speaking parents yet they can't understand a word of it, even though the parents often speak it at home between themselves :o


  • #261
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    An Coilean wrote: »
    You don't have to re-translate every time you erect a new ATM. You just install the software with both languages into new ATMs, where is the added cost of having Irish for new ATMs?

    Still waiting to see Tesco's plan, should be released next week. They may have Irish speaking staff in their stores, as they do in Wales.

    That's true. It would be a good statistic to have in these discussions though. See what percentage of people actually choose to conduct their daily business through irish. I would give us a good indication of the true demand for irish language service in this country.

    And I doubt it but who knows they've gone this far. Might as well go the whole hog.


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  • #262
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    eaxctly.


  • #263
    DyldeBrill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭DyldeBrill


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    That's true. It would be a good statistic to have in these discussions though. See what percentage of people actually choose to conduct their daily business through irish. I would give us a good indication of the true demand for irish language service in this country.

    And I doubt it but who knows they've gone this far. Might as well go the whole hog.

    Would be an interesting statistic alright!

    I know quite a lot of people that use the Irish option, but then again that is my social circle of friends.


  • #264
    9959
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    A quick glance at the poll now, shows that almost 20% of respondents claim to speak Irish 'often'.

    If this is representative of the population at large, then I don't believe that the Irish language lobby has much to be worried about, 1 in 5, truly incredible.

    Though a sceptical reading of the poll might well conjure up words/names such as: Seamus, Roisin and Zeal, (no they're not a prog-rock trio from the seventies).


  • #265
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,984 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    9959 wrote: »
    A quick glance at the poll now, shows that almost 20% of respondents claim to speak Irish 'often'.

    It really does depend on how you define "speaking" the language though. It doesn't take any proof to say you do speak it often, nor do we know how to classify "often", especially when we've seen some claim simply knowing a few words constitutes "speaking" the language.


  • #266
    MiseryMary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭MiseryMary


    Skid wrote: »
    No, too many unhappy memories of being forced to learn it in School.

    I have no interest in the Irish language anymore and I haven't spoken a word of Irish in years.

    I don't like the way its been forced on in the schools that is why I wrote off to the department of education through my school to get me not to do it and I took up french as my second language instead which i like and Irish is a dead language because everyone here speak english in Ireland even people from another country comes here to learn english , So will i learn irish now ? nope no way .


  • #267
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    An Coilean wrote: »

    Still waiting to see Tesco's plan, should be released next week. They may have Irish speaking staff in their stores, as they do in Wales.

    Seriously? Completely nuts idea. What have we started?! Tesco only doing it to make money off pretentious wannabes.


  • #268
    opti0nal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭opti0nal


    An Coilean wrote: »
    You don't have to re-translate every time you erect a new ATM. You just install the software with both languages into new ATMs, where is the added cost of having Irish for new ATMs?
    Everytime I use an ATM, I get asked if I want Irish or English. This should be a saved option so I can register my native language and not be prompted all of the time.

    But, I guess some GaleGoer decided it would be cool to hassle people to try a 'coopla****le' every time they wanted access to their cash.


  • #269
    DDC1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,388 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    opti0nal wrote: »
    Everytime I use an ATM, I get asked if I want Irish or English. This should be a saved option so I can register my native language and not be prompted all of the time.

    But, I guess some GaleGoer decided it would be cool to hassle people to try a 'coopla****le' every time they wanted access to their cash.
    I agree, what an awful strain those filthy Irish Speakers have put on you!

    Having to press an extra button every time you want to get money out!

    Could cause a repetative strain injury that could!

    Some hassle!


  • #270
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    An Coilean wrote: »
    The only way forward for the Irish language is to ensure that it is used, and can be used in every aspect of life.
    You can shout bah humbug all you like, I will still use Irish in Tesco.

    It really is a pitty begrudgery is so deeply ingraind in some people.

    Then what's the problem? You're using it, ergo, it moves forward. It can be used in every aspect in life, ergo, it moves forward.

    Those that want to do, those that don't shouldn't have to. Everyone wins. Even you.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #271
    9959
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    I agree, what an awful strain those filthy Irish Speakers have put on you!

    Having to press an extra button every time you want to get money out!

    Could cause a repetative strain injury that could!

    Some hassle!

    I agree.
    I think it's vitally important that we pretend we're a bilingual nation.
    I believe that good money was thrown after bad - and the city's population was placed in grave danger - when some idiot marked the initial Dublin bus lanes 'Bus Lana' rather than the patently obvious 'Lana Bus', thankfully no lives were lost because of this calamitous error.


    Perhaps the 'Bus Lana' story is a Dublin urban myth, but due to the zealous nature of Irish language 'hawks', how unbelievable is it?


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