Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

Erm no, he pretty quickly made it clear that the IPO would be started up by the end of the year.

Claiming he brought Green in to buy Rangers.

Ok Craigie boy.

I'm not splitting hairs, you're the one claiming it should take years before an IPO is being formed and concluded, and that it's weird that Green is doing this now, insinuating it has to do with cashflow issues.

Green said straight away that a share system would be set up ASAP.

The IPO was started before Green mentioned not playing in the SPL though, I don't think it has anything to do with rushing a schedule.

As it is the schedule is simple: Win division after division, keeping the numbers of fans up (or growing) and ensure the financial future of the club is secure in the share issue.

By the way, we got a gift from Forres

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just watched the craig whyte interview, despite him constantly arguing the semantics of not lying, not being misleading and just not being more open etc. Fairly easy to see when he was telling bare faced lies!

he confirmed what i long suspected of duff and phelps, the willingness of former board members to stick their heads in the sand!

the spl/sfa havent even written him an official letter yet? i suppose its not worth wasting a stamp on him but it still should have been done in writing. the cheek of him to laugh off his ban when he let his ego decide that not paying tax was a better plan than putting the club into administration after exiting european competitions!

part of me still thinks he's purposely taken the pr hit for someone else to smell like roses but the plan backfired when hmrc deferred the announcement in october. him not willing to discuss what hes gotten out means he still has a card to play i.e. floating charge on murray park.

Less than 1000 tickets left, sell out it is.

I'd love to be at the game tomorrow.

I wonder how many Spiders fans will be there? Perhaps a thousand for their big day.

It's amazing to think Queens Park could have been one of football's major clubs if they hadn't been so hell-bent on retaining amateur status.

Word on the street is the big tax case appeal has been lost.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You mean on Celtic-minded websites and twitter accounts

You doubt the rangerstaxcase Twitter? I said earlier in the week that Craig Whyte was back in town and you laughed it off.

Erm, Rangers message boards were saying the same thing about Whyte
I didn't laugh anything off when you said Whyte would be back in town.

And yeah, I doubt the RTC's impartiality, I will refer to it as a Celtic-minded website

Either way, winning or losing that case is of no consequence to us anymore.

I'm not doubting it though, there's a reason Whyte all of a sudden showed up now.
Same reason probably why Whyte apparently has correspondence between him and D&P, about the Ticketus deal. It would show that D&P were fully aware.

I never laughed it off ffs.

Rangers Tax-Case @rangerstaxcase @Ciaran_O What will it mean? 5 SPL titles, 4 Scottish Cups- and a renewed demand for the SFL to withdraw 6 league cups.

Well it's of absolutely no consequence to you now, so we'll just draw a line under it and forget it ever happened eh. Am just wondering why bother with the appeal if it matters not a jot.

But once again absolutely dire football.

Even now QP are ripping the defence a new one at times.

BBC Scotland has uncovered new evidence showing Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps knew Craig Whyte had sold season tickets to buy the club.

It indicates they were intent on denying it because they thought they could get away with it.

In May, the BBC suggested Duff and Phelps partner, David Grier, may have known about the £25m Ticketus deal last April, before Mr Whyte's takeover.

Mr Grier denied any knowledge of the deal until August 2011.

The BBC has obtained a recording of a meeting between Mr Whyte and Mr Grier, which show Duff and Phelps did know.

Mr Whyte bought Rangers from Sir David Murray for £1 and paid an £18m debt to Lloyds Bank by selling three years of season tickets to finance firm Ticketus for £25m.

As well as being involved in Mr Whyte's takeover, Duff and Phelps were appointed as Rangers' administrators after the club plunged into insolvency in February 2012.

In May, a BBC Scotland investigation suggested that Mr Grier may have known that about the controversial Ticketus deal before the Whyte takeover was complete.

Mr Grier, and Duff and Phelps, denied the claims and said he was unaware of this particular Ticketus deal until August 2011.

Last week, in a BBC interview, Mr Whyte said that "everybody who was involved in the deal team at the time knew about" the Ticketus deal.

He added: "They (Duff and Phelps) knew everything, they attended meetings, they were copied into all the emails, they were there on the day of completion. They knew from the start."

That claim prompted Rangers' joint administrator Paul Clark, of Duff and Phelps, to respond: "The allegations against the administrators, who are officers of the court, are false, malicious and without foundation.

"In addition, as administrators, we instigated legal proceedings against Mr Whyte's solicitors (Collyer Bristow) in the High Court in London and those proceedings are centred round the very serious allegation that Mr Whyte was involved in a conspiracy which deprived Rangers of many millions of pounds.

"Our conduct of the Rangers administration has been the subject of intense public scrutiny and we are wholly satisfied it was carried out to the highest professional standards."

BBC Scotland has now received a secret recording that Mr Whyte says he made at a meeting between him and Mr Grier in a private members' club in London on 31 May, after its investigation was broadcast.

Craig Whyte met David Grier at a private members club in London

The recording, which is to be used in a forthcoming court case involving Duff and Phelps and Mr Whyte's former lawyers Collyer Bristow, has been obtained legitimately by BBC Scotland.

During the exchange, Mr Grier said: "I'll tell you what we're doing with that just so you…

Mr Whyte: "Yeah.

Mr Grier: "We, we went to see counsel yesterday and had a full sort of debrief of all the email correspondence.

Mr Whyte: "Yep.

Mr Grier: "Now, the fact is that we probably did know what was going on with Ticketus. There's no email traffic whatsoever.

Mr Whyte: "That says that you did?"

Mr Grier: "That says that we did.

Mr White: "But we all know that you did and f****** hell.

Mr Grier: "Yeah, yeah. There's no…we were not involved in dealing with Ticketus directly.

Mr Whyte: "Yeah. So you knew the structures of the deal. You were dealing with Lloyds.

Mr Grier: "Absolutely.

Mr Whyte: "And the Ticketus part was Saffreys.

Mr Grier "Yeah. So we've maintained that line quite rigorously."

BBC Scotland has been able to confirm with a voice recognition expert that the recording is of Mr Grier.

Duff and Phelps have yet to respond to the publication of the 31 May conversation.