Liveline Thread 15/10/2012 to 22/01/2013

joe ive no future....

are ye positive tommy ?

IM HIV positive joe..

ahh good one tommy good one...keep the faith keep the faith.

maringo wrote: »

Obviously a great deal of empathy on here for people going through hard times! Hope it never comes to your door or your attitude might change. I don't agree with Joe Purcell stealing but I think desperation got the better of good judgement and he robbed the food. I know several decent people trying to survive on State benefits feed their family and keep a roof over their heads while applying for any job that comes up. Being on benefits is certainly not a matter of their own choosing.

Hang on a sec. This Joe Purcell guy tells us he can't put food on the table for his kids yet he's able to drive to the shop to carry out his shoplifting, visit the gym every day and keep a dog. He also seems unwilling to look for an ordinary job because he feels he's got to "follow his heart", which is all very well if he's still single and is willing to live in penury until his "big break" comes along but it's a pretty selfish attitude to have when you've got kids. This guy needs to get his priorities straight. It has nothing to do with him being on benefits per se.
The guy needs a reality check.

maringo wrote: »

Obviously a great deal of empathy on here for people going through hard times! Hope it never comes to your door or your attitude might change. I don't agree with Joe Purcell stealing but I think desperation got the better of good judgement and he robbed the food. I know several decent people trying to survive on State benefits feed their family and keep a roof over their heads while applying for any job that comes up. Being on benefits is certainly not a matter of their own choosing.

Why did Joe Purcell come on the radio? What exactly did he want, apart from trying to justify his actions?He failed to notify the welfare that he changed address,that's not the governments fault.He wasn't aware of the community welfare officer,that's not the govt's fault either.The man IS getting welfare,what is his complaint exactly? We didn't actually hear it. Nobody is saying things aren't hard but most people just get on with it, they dont go whingeing to Joe Duffy who uses his show for his own agenda. What do the people want? Higher benefits? State benefits for the most part have not been touched are amongst the highest in Europe. This show was an exercise in whataboutery. What about the banks, what about Quinn? The implication being my crimes don't matter if someone else is appearing to get away with it. Why not anarchy then?
I'm sorry but 'following your heart' by being actor doesn't cut it and most of these people refuse to accept any responsibility at all for their situation and Joe isn't going to ask them either. He practically applauds property speculators as 'entrepreneurs'! His show is a thinly veiled attempt to undermine the government and rehabilitate his buddies in Fianna Faíl. Do you know the rate of reposessions in this country in comparison to the UK? it's minsiscule and it is actually preventing property from finding a floor and and inhibiting our competetiveness.The cheaper accommodation is, the better for society and for jobs.Ireland as a country doesn't seem to understand that and you have people paying mortages before feeding themselves; instead the house should be given up and they can move on.The bank can sell to someone who can afford it.
This is what happens when nobody wants to accept responsibility and its the type of 'debate' the likes of Joe Duffy propogates. It helps nobody and will actually prolong the recession if anything.
By the way, real poverty doesn't include having gym membership,owning dogs and running a car. It just doesn't. IF you think that's what poverty is then you are as deluded as Joe's fanbase.
Ireland as a country is simply too expensive for its own good. The reason it is too expensive are myriad but one of them is a refusal to accept that property is not a productive asset and the more people are forced to pay for it, the less they have to spend in the real economy.

This story is being covered on tonights Late Show on 4fm. I hope its not a case of this guy doing the rounds and talking to anyone who will listen to drum up a bit of sympathy.

Agree with you Yosser that its a bit unrealistic to expect to be fully employed as an actor in this recession. At the best of times its a frugal profession with no security of employment unless you make the big time. My anger however is directed at the "professionals" and the "Fianna Fail politicians" who brought us to the state we are in - not the citizens who are in unemployment due to the recession. If debt resolution doesn't happen now and people are terrified to spend even if they have it the economy will not pick up anytime soon. The government needs to crack the whip on the banks that we bailed out.

eviltwin wrote: »

This story is being covered on tonights Late Show on 4fm. I hope its not a case of this guy doing the rounds and talking to anyone who will listen to drum up a bit of sympathy.

he was on the david harvey show this afternoon aswell. had to laugh when he said he was shocked to find himself in the shop stealing as if he'd just appeared there.:P he's not too ashamed that he won't go on every radio show:rolleyes:

Lahvline GOLD set up for tomorrow -

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81282913#post81282913

Videos are on page 5 as they removed the original videos but someone was quick enough to save, copy and paste them

Looks like thread has been taken down by boards for some reason

JonathanAnon wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90X09r5ibcY

Thanks for that Vic, hadnt seen it... truly shocking.. What absolute morons

That's exactly the word i used myself - morons ! Interesting to see how it all pans out.

Joe's researchers will be working overtime to track down this whinger for today's show -

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2012/1017/1224325341332.html

'There are weeks I can't put food on the table'

THE FINANCIAL difficulties of middle-income families who bought their home during the property boom have been highlighted by the wife of a Garda sergeant in a letter to a number of Government ministers.

The woman describes how a €1,400 monthly mortgage payment on a four-bedroom semi-detached family home bought seven years ago along with the repeated cuts to her husband’s wages have left them “living a nightmare”.

“. . . There are weeks when I can’t put food on the table. I call them ‘cornflakes days’ when all we eat all day is cornflakes . . .”

The woman wrote that even though her eldest child got enough points to go to a prestigious college they couldn’t afford the fees: “Imagine how upsetting that is?”

The letter – unsigned to protect her husband’s identity – was written after a Mabs (Money Advice and Budgeting Service) adviser had offered to refer the couple to the St Vincent de Paul Society for assistance.

Her husband has gross earnings of more than €65,000 – including allowances and unsocial hours coverage. After tax, Universal Social Charge, pension, health insurance, mortgage and utility deductions, a typical weekly payslip shows a net payment of €109.

By the Mabs analysis, however, the weekly household budget was running a deficit of nearly €300 and there appeared to be no means of reducing it.

The woman wrote that she and her husband “have no savings, no holiday homes, no fancy cars. We have never done anything to put ourselves at risk, only move house to have an extra bedroom . . . We live in constant terror of the washing machine breaking down or the car . . . If it wasn’t for my mother bailing us out all the time, we would be right under.”

A spokesman for the Minister for Transport, Leo Varadkar said the woman had been in regular correspondence with the minister. “He understands that her husband is in secure public sector employment but they bought their home at the height of the boom and are struggling to pay a large mortgage on reduced pay.” He hoped she would be “able to resolve her financial problems with [the] assistance of Mabs and others.”

Im sure that with all these sob stories of thieving and corn flakes there are some positive stories and people who are actually doing well in the economy that joe doesnt want to hear about coz that would be a happy story. Listening to 99% of the whingers going about their poor lifestyles they think that because they had it good in the past they are automatically entitled to a good life till they die. I have a €1400 a month mortgage and can pay my bills but not living it up like it was years ago but not gona go letter writting complaining that I cant go on weekends away anymore or buy a nicer car. And as for following the heart as that plonker said yesterday I gave up on that years ago when I realised it wasnt going to happen and got in with reality.