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Man fined £355 for throwing 1/2 pint of beer over a noisy baby's head.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    I like this guy
    1ZRed wrote: »
    Ah, at least he got up and did something about it! Parents that don't do anything about their annoying screaming children deserve a nice, square kick in the arse to spark some parenting skills into them!
    brummytom wrote: »
    I love this man. The pub should've had a whipround for him.
    psinno wrote: »
    Which posts exactly are you referring to? That doesn't sound like any ones I read but maybe I missed them.


    These posts are some of the very first in the thread...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Madam_X wrote: »
    That said, I will concede that Ireland, broadly speaking, can be fairly child-unfriendly.

    Your not basing that on those of us who disagree on enduring noisy, hyperactive children in a pub ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Hang on now. Of course the old man was wrong in what he did, but going by what some you are saying, you'd swear the child was on the verge of drowning.
    Let's not go off on a tangent here about beating children to death. Assault is a strong word here I think.

    I'll admit, I found it kinda hilarious just picturing it though. :D

    Of course it is assault. The child was SIXTEEN months old. The child is just walking, beginning to warble and some fcuker throws a drink over it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Durr. Beer makes people louder. He should have blown hash smoke in his face instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Queen-Mise wrote: »
    Of course it is assault. The child was SIXTEEN months old. The child is just walking, beginning to warble and some fcuker throws a drink over it.

    Yeah technically by law, but it makes it sound like he hit the child an uppercut.
    It was lousy what he did, but sure beer over the head is no different to the baby getting bathed or showered really. Well the smell of course:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭tan11ie


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Yeah technically by law, but it makes it sound like he hit the child an uppercut.
    It was lousy what he did, but sure beer over the head is no different to the baby getting bathed or showered really. Well the smell of course:D

    Don't be so ****ing stupid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Hang on now. Of course the old man was wrong in what he did, but going by what some you are saying, you'd swear the child was on the verge of drowning.
    Let's not go off on a tangent here about beating children to death. Assault is a strong word here I think.

    I'll admit, I found it kinda hilarious just picturing it though. :D


    Lets change the title to "scumbag in a tracksuit" instead of "man"...would you still be laughing? Theres something seriously wrong with anyone that thinks throwing beer on a baby, is funny.


  • Posts: 534 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some pubs in Britain actively encourage families to eat there if you want a quiet pint do not visit one of these pubs. If was my kid boards would be discussing my court appearance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Instead of 1/2 pint, we could change it to keg and instead of 15 month old baby we could change that to 15 year old and instead of ..........................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    Poor guy was so precious a baby managed to upset his Sunday lunch. At least the baby had a valid reason for crying when it's not suitable....he hasn't been socialised yet. The tool who threw half a pint over him has had his whole life to learn how to act in public, and he still hasn't got a notion! God help his wife.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    tan11ie wrote: »
    Don't be so ****ing stupid!

    :D

    Your tears of rage are delicious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,131 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    MaxSteele wrote: »

    I'll admit, I found it kinda hilarious just picturing it though. :D

    Maybe it's because I have a young child myself but I found the thought of anyone doing this to a baby the exact opposite of hilarious.
    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Disregarding what the old man did.

    Surely people can't defend parents who knowingly bring their pissing, s*itting, screaming babies and toddlers to an establishment primarily for adults to have pints or watch the sunday game in peace on their day off ?

    This pub also serves food and states on their website that children are welcome. If you want to get drunk or watch a game in peace there are plenty of other pubs that cater for that too.
    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Yeah technically by law, but it makes it sound like he hit the child an uppercut.
    It was lousy what he did, but sure beer over the head is no different to the baby getting bathed or showered really. Well the smell of course:D

    Seriously? Is that how you'd see it if someone threw a pint over your head? I doubt it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    :D

    Your tears of rage are delicious.

    No tears allowed in here, we have ways of dealing with that and there is a free pint in it for them:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Boombastic wrote: »
    She threw her drink back at him, should she also not face assault charges?
    Self defence perhaps.
    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Fantastic news.
    How the hell is it fantastic news? That's just an oddball thing to say. Btw, nobody has suggested the world revolves around crying babies. But parents are entitled to go out the odd time - and babies cry.
    1ZRed wrote: »
    I agree with that and it was way too far, but some parents are so lax about their children screaming the place down to the ground and do nothing about it.

    In fairness, a little haste is ok once the parents settle them down, but if they run riot and are as bold as brass, you have to think of other people and their enjoyment in the pub as well.
    Some people confuse kid being a brat with kid being a baby/toddler and too difficult to quieten/discipline yet.

    Queen-Mise made some great points and inconvenienced some with her facts and truths. I agree, Queen, some folks on Boards do seem like they'd be at home working in the industrial schools 50 years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    not sure which of the three things the mother did is worst?

    1. bringing a 15 month old kid into a pub
    2. leaving the kid alone to go order food (kid could have been snatched)
    3. naming him Finlay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Chucken wrote: »
    Lets change the title to "scumbag in a tracksuit" instead of "man"...would you still be laughing? Theres something seriously wrong with anyone that thinks throwing beer on a baby, is funny.

    Don't know many times I've admitted it was wrong, but picturing a stubborn old man pouring a half pint over grizzling baby's gives me the giggles.

    But please, tell me more on how I will become a future child killer because of my heinous humor.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Queen-Mise wrote: »
    These posts are some of the very first in the thread...

    I didn't actually condone what he did. In fact I don't agree with it at all.

    What I only found to be justified was not sitting back when a child is grizzling and shouting so the point of disturbing people around you. I've been on a bus from galway to Dublin late enough at night where the children were loud and behaving like brats. At the end of the long irritating journey the Dad got them off the bus and praised them for being so good and behaving so well. Wtf?

    The fault lies with the parents in bad cases where they are behaving terrible, as in, far worse then just being unsettled -which is understandable.

    You can't just let them off for behaving this badly behaved because they're only 15 months. I've seen fantastically behaved children that age and their parents are good at settling them if they pick up. Like wise, I've seen very badly behaved children with parents that don't say anything to them or remove them if they're really bothering other people. That's not right.

    What this guy did went way too far and was bad, there's no denying that, but all of this should have been between him and the mother, who should have tended to the child and tried to settle it. Ignoring it or failing at calming the child, she should have left the pub.

    I don't think it's fair at all to have to sit through a screaming child who ruins your day out. Being unsettled, that's normal, but if it's starting to bother other people a lot, then it's only the decent thing to do to try and sort it out.
    You're in a public space so you need to take other people's consideration into account and not just your own.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Wow. He assaulted a 'grizzling' baby and its mother and knuckle draggers here are applauding it. ****ed up in the extreme


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Got any booze for t'baby?

    YOU CANT GAVE A BABY BOOZE!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Maybe it's because I have a young child myself but I found the thought of anyone doing this to a baby the exact opposite of hilarious.

    Good for you. I wish you and your family all the best.


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    This pub also serves food and states on their website that children are welcome. If you want to get drunk or watch a game in peace there are plenty of other pubs that cater for that too.

    I know. I'm talking about actual pubs for adults.

    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Seriously? Is that how you'd see it if someone threw a pint over your head? I doubt it

    You guessed correct. I was just saying people are over exaggerating to the point as if the child experienced immense pain and that to the child it would feel no different to having mammy pouring bathwater on it's head. But of course people love to exaggerate.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    not sure which of the three things the mother did is worst?

    1. bringing a 15 month old kid into a pub
    2. leaving the kid alone to go order food (kid could have been snatched)
    Pub in question specifically welcomes children, baby's aunt was with him while mum was away from table and baby got upset, you forgot "Adult throwing half a pint on baby".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭telecaster


    When I was a baby some old dude - complete randomer as far as I was concerned - dunked my head in to water then poured more over from my jug while mumbling strangely. All the adults just stood and watched.

    The old dude gave me ma a candle afterwards....must have felt guilty or something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭tan11ie


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    :D

    Your tears of rage are delicious.

    No tears for your stupidity, it's blinding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,131 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    MaxSteele wrote: »

    You guessed correct. I was just saying people are over exaggerating to the point as if the child experienced immense pain and that to the child it would feel no different to having mammy pouring bathwater on it's head. But of course people love to exaggerate.

    Well unless the mother bathes the baby in cold water then it would feel slightly different than bathwater being poured on his head! I'm sure the baby got a terrible shock and definitely would have screamed even louder so it was a slightly counter productive thing for the man to do really.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    psinno wrote: »

    Which posts exactly are you referring to? That doesn't sound like any ones I read but maybe I missed them.

    I think maybe you missed the whole thread in that case. Split your hairs and create your straw men somewhere else.


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Willow Clean Warehouse


    Anyone who defends a grown adult assaulting a baby is an absolute kunt who needs mental help.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    MaxSteele wrote: »

    :D

    Your tears of rage are delicious.

    Yeah, you clearly got issues. No use arguing with you. I wouldn't waste my time arguing with a sociopath (as a hypothetical example) in real life, nothing can be achieved. Same story here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    So, a grumpy old bastard gets annoyed at a baby grizzling in a public place and decides the best course of action is to assault the child and mother...

    And some people here actually think he's right in doing so???? **** me.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Assault is a strong word here I think.

    You clearly have no clue what construes assault in the eyes of the law. Guess that was never covered during sports coverage or discussed in a pub for you to hear. If you walk into your local tomorrow and start shouting your head off right in a barmaids face, you could be charged with assault. You do not need to put your hands on her for that to happen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Andy!! wrote: »
    Yeah, you clearly got issues. No use arguing with you. I wouldn't waste my time arguing with a sociopath (as a hypothetical example) in real life, nothing can be achieved. Same story here.

    :D A sociopath ?

    You're taking the piss right ? Because I laughed at a baby getting beer on it's head ? Can't see any difference then between the OP's story and this story then ?

    http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2012/oct/16/opinion-escalona-99-year-sentence-probation/

    There's the superiority complex coming out again. No use arguing with a monumental prick who see's the irish as a horrible, miserable bunch.


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