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Man fined £355 for throwing 1/2 pint of beer over a noisy baby's head.

  • 16-10-2012 5:14pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    This guy certainly didn't take to a screaming baby when he was having his lunch. He had the right name, :p

    Grandfather Danny Polak snapped when 15-month-old Finlay White would not stop grizzling. When Finlay’s mother Rachel Atkin confronted him he kicked her up the backside, a court heard.

    The row started when Ms Atkin ordered food at the bar of the Ernehale pub in Arnold, Nottinghamshire. She and her sister-in-law had been sitting near Polak and his wife. The elderly couple were angry that she had left Finlay. ‘It was then that Finlay started to whine as though he was missing his mother,’ said Catherine Picardo, prosecuting.

    ‘The defendant, with a half-full pint in his hand, approached the table and poured it over the baby’s head, which caused him to scream.


    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/915132-man-fined-355-for-throwing-beer-over-toddler-s-head


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    I like this guy


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Children shouldn't be allowed out in public. End of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Children shouldn't be allowed out in public. End of.

    I suppose you were never a child?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Ah, at least he got up and did something about it! Parents that don't do anything about their annoying screaming children deserve a nice, square kick in the arse to spark some parenting skills into them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    When Finlay’s mother Rachel Atkin confronted him he kicked her up the backside

    I love this man. The pub should've had a whipround for him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Chucken wrote: »
    I suppose you were never a child?

    Nobody ever saw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Funglegunk


    Awful waste of half a pint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    bad but at same time oh so good :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Why had she left her kid alone in a pub?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    WTF is grizzling?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    I'd kick the **** out of him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Culleeo


    Why throw the pint over a 15 month old defenceless child? What did he hope to gain from that? Old bastard.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Chucken wrote: »
    I suppose you were never a child?

    Nope, not once.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Bradidup


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    I'd kick the **** out of him.
    The baby or your man?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Eq0VO.jpg

    (Only kidding, throwing beer on babies is terrible)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    How will he be able to live with himself if this child turns out to become an alcoholic, yes he deserves to be hit around the head many times with a towel nappy full of this child's waste fluids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Kids shouldn't be in pubs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    TBH, as much as whinging babies that parent ignore annoy me, dumping 284ml's of beer over a childs head won't do anyone any good.

    Kicking the mother up the arse? Assault.

    Seriously, RTTH, do you just look for ****e in newspapers to post all day long?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    How does one grizzle?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    She threw her drink back at him, should she also not face assault charges?


    and she probably needed a kick up the ar$e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Danny Polak: What are you staring at, ****er? You wanna start me up? Just open the choke and pull the cord, pal. I'm due for a seismic event and you're dancing on the fault line.
    Kid's Mother: [the mother stands and approaches] Hey, what is your problem, pal?
    Danny Polak: I got no beef with you. This is between me and the kid.

    For some reason I imagine it playing out like that legendary scene from Me, Myself and Irene


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Fantastic news.

    No one needs to hear or see a shower of ugly, snot nosed toddlers and children screaming and running about a place for adults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Seriously, RTTH, do you just look for ****e in newspapers to post all day long?
    This is worth a discussion.

    Screaming babies have no place in any pub day or night.

    For the child's sake and for those that have paid for the privilege of having a bit of peace and quite.

    If you want to bring a child out for a meal drink, you take them to a McDonalds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Fantastic news.

    No one needs to hear or see a shower of ugly, snot nosed toddlers and children screaming and running about a place for adults.

    Are they Irish?

    'It took place in a family pub where children are entitled to be.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    This is worth a discussion.

    Screaming babies have no place in any pub day or night.

    But what about between the 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,620 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    People don't seem to know the difference between screaming/crying and grizzling.
    I agree the child shouldn't have been left alone but the guy was some sort of c**t to throw a beer over a toddler.
    Then again, I'd never be in this position because I never leave my child unattended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Culleeo wrote: »
    Why throw the pint over a 15 month old defenceless child? What did he hope to gain from that? Old bastard.

    I agree with that and it was way too far, but some parents are so lax about their children screaming the place down to the ground and do nothing about it.

    In fairness, a little haste is ok once the parents settle them down, but if they run riot and are as bold as brass, you have to think of other people and their enjoyment in the pub as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    When Finlay’s mother Rachel Atkin confronted him he kicked her up the backside

    Eh? Did she confront him backwards?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    This is worth a discussion.

    Screaming babies have no place in any pub day or night.

    For the child's sake and for those that have paid for the privilege of having a bit of peace and quite.

    If you want to bring a child out for a meal drink, you take them to a McDonalds.


    parents also paid for the privilege to eat and drink , not to have a child assaulted - if it was my child - i would have stuck the glass down his throat

    and in fairness RTDH - usual sh1t from you - do you think before you post ? ever ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Fella wants his head kicked in, obviously. Bullying c*nt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Nope, not once.

    You're mod of call of duty.. I'd say you have to be a kid to fit in and play that :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭say_who_now?


    We're not allowed say it, but if I had been that baby I'd have blasted the cranky old bastid with a faceful of my own special brew!


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    So glad I dont live in Ireland anymore. What a horrible, miserable lot you are. What that piece of dog excrement did to that innocent child is a terrible thing to do to a defenseless toddler. Deserves a week in the clink if you ask me. And people that have kids have as much right to enjoy the pub on a Sunday afternoon for a carvery as much as the bunch of miserable arses who nobody would ever have children with do :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Welruc


    This is worth a discussion.

    Screaming babies have no place in any pub day or night.

    For the child's sake and for those that have paid for the privilege of having a bit of peace and quite.

    If you want to bring a child out for a meal drink, you take them to a McDonalds.

    Seriously a bit of peace and quiet, if that's what your after I'd stay at home

    If that was my child your man would get worse than a kick up the arse, grumpy old....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Are they Irish?

    'It took place in a family pub where children are entitled to be.'

    We're looking at different links my friend. No mention of a "family pub" in the OP's link.

    They're not irish. It took place in an english pub.:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    This guy certainly didn't take to a screaming baby when he was having his lunch. He had the right name, :p

    Grandfather Danny Polak snapped when 15-month-old Finlay White would not stop grizzling. When Finlay’s mother Rachel Atkin confronted him he kicked her up the backside, a court heard.

    The row started when Ms Atkin ordered food at the bar of the Ernehale pub in Arnold, Nottinghamshire. She and her sister-in-law had been sitting near Polak and his wife. The elderly couple were angry that she had left Finlay. ‘It was then that Finlay started to whine as though he was missing his mother,’ said Catherine Picardo, prosecuting.

    ‘The defendant, with a half-full pint in his hand, approached the table and poured it over the baby’s head, which caused him to scream.


    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/915132-man-fined-355-for-throwing-beer-over-toddler-s-head

    " I dont believe it!!!!!!!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    parents also paid for the privilege to eat and drink , not to have a child assaulted - if it was my child - i would have stuck the glass down his throat

    X number of people in that pub paid for their drink and food in a pub where there is a reasonable presumption that there will not be kids. While I don't agree with what he did, the kid should not have been there in the first place. Bad parenting. Plenty of family friendly places to get food, pubs are for adults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    We're looking at different links my friend. No mention of a "family pub" in the OP's link.

    They're not irish. It took place in an english pub.:confused:

    I know it's a different link to the same story:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Andy!! wrote: »
    So glad I dont live in Ireland anymore. What a horrible, miserable lot you are. What that piece of dog excrement did to that innocent child is a terrible thing to do to a defenseless toddler. Deserves a week in the clink if you ask me. And people that have kids have as much right to enjoy the pub on a Sunday afternoon for a carvery as much as the bunch of miserable arses who nobody would ever have children with do :P

    Ah bless. A mick hating sap. Or a disgruntled ex-pat with no friends.

    Tell me this, do you like to bring your rowdy, boisterous kids to a pub and f*ck up everyone else's relaxing peace and quiet on a sunday afternoon ? :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    X number of people in that pub paid for their drink and food in a pub where there is a reasonable presumption that there will not be kids. While I don't agree with what he did, the kid should not have been there in the first place. Bad parenting. Plenty of family friendly places to get food, pubs are for adults.

    I don't necessarily agree, with the last bit I mean. There are definitely more family friendly places than a pub, but I'd be alright with children there to eat or whatever. BUT, I'd have a near zero tolerance level for bad behaviour considering it is a place for adults primarily and there are far more suitable places to go for families.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Ah bless. A mick hating sap. Or a disgruntled ex-pat with no friends.

    Tell me this, do you like to bring your rowdy, boisterous kids to a pub and f*ck up everyone else's relaxing peace and quiet on a sunday afternoon ? :)

    I bring mine to the lap dancing club, followed by a nightclub:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    1ZRed wrote: »
    I don't necessarily agree, with the last bit I mean. There are definitely more family friendly places than a pub, but I'd be alright with children there to eat or whatever. BUT, I'd have a near zero tolerance level for bad behaviour considering it is a place for adults primarily and there are far more suitable places to go for families.

    A little 15 month old baby being a bit upset is hardly "bad behaviour".

    I dont know how the rest of the world copes at all. Its common practice to bring children to resturants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    parents also paid for the privilege to eat and drink , not to have a child assaulted - if it was my child - i would have stuck the glass down his throat

    and in fairness RTDH - usual sh1t from you - do you think before you post ? ever ?
    Yes they paid for the privilege to eat and drink but not to take over the whole pub with noise.

    If they didn't have the child present with them this would not have happened.

    How many pubs have baby changing facilities?

    How many pubs have strapped in high chairs to cater for children?

    The above explains it. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I can't believe so many posts on this thread commending a guy for assaulting a baby. You are as bad as him condoning child abuse.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    MaxSteele wrote: »

    Ah bless. A mick hating sap. Or a disgruntled ex-pat with no friends.

    Tell me this, do you like to bring your rowdy, boisterous kids to a pub and f*ck up everyone else's relaxing peace and quiet on a sunday afternoon ? :)

    I dont have children. If I did have some one day I would not lose the right to go to the pub (in the middle of the afternoon, at a pub that sells food, no less).

    And Im not really sure where you get your aspersions from. I got out, why would I be disgruntled? I dont live in a borderline 3rd world country anymore ;) And there is a sizeable ex-pat community here too, who are also 'gruntled' to be out, not to mention the locals I know... do you think all expats are friendless and dont leave their house or something? People make new friends you know ;) Just cause you have been and always will be spending your days getting drunk in the same pub with people you went to primary school with doesnt mean there arent others in life who want something more for themselves ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    woodoo wrote: »
    I can't believe so many posts on this thread commending a guy for assaulting a baby. You are as bad as him condoning child abuse.

    Well I wager the fact his ma left him there doesn't make her any better than the man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Andy!! wrote: »
    I dont have children. If I did have some one day I would not lose the right to go to the pub (in the middle of the afternoon, at a pub that sells food, no less).

    And Im not really sure where you get your aspersions from. I got out, why would I be disgruntled? I dont live in a borderline 3rd world country anymore ;) And there is a sizeable ex-pat community here too, who are also 'gruntled' to be out, not to mention the locals I know... do you think all expats are friendless and dont leave their house or something? People make new friends you know ;) Just cause you have been and always will be spending your days getting drunk in the same pub with people you went to primary school with doesnt mean there arent others in life who want something more for themselves ;)

    Just make sure you sit in the beer garden with the nipper


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!



    there is a reasonable presumption that there will not be kids.

    On a Sunday, in the middle of a day, at a carvery? I wouldnt call that a reasonable presumption, I would call that delusion.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    Boombastic wrote: »

    Just make sure you sit in the beer garden with the nipper

    In the cold, around all the smokers? Why? You think noise gets sucked into the air faster than it takes to hear it? We arent in space mate. What you are talking about is segregation. Id rather we segregated the miserable aul ****es than families trying to relax.


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