Horse fair: Dublin City Council to charge €30 a horse casual trading fee

MadsL · 06-10-2012 11:05PM #1

http://www.dublincity.ie/RecreationandCulture/CasualTradingLicence/Documents/Draft_Smithfield_Horse_Fair_Fee_Bye_Laws_Council_Sept_2012.pdf

DCC are proposing a €30 fee to "selling (agreeing to sell, offering to sell, displaying for sale and inviting an offer to buy) a horse or horses at the Smithfield Horse Fair"

This fee applies for each fair regardless if you sell the horse.

Sensible fee or attempt to kill the Horse Fair?

Casillas · 06-10-2012 11:10PM

Sounds like they're hoping the fair will be held elsewhere instead.

Out of sight, out of mind.

admiralofthefleet · 06-10-2012 11:12PM

Casillas wrote: »

Sounds like they're hoping the fair will be held elsewhere instead.

Out of sight, out of mind.

they're flogging a dead horse there

MadsL · 06-10-2012 11:14PM

This is hysterical....

The issuing of a Casual Trading Licence will require all current requirements to be fully submitted 7 Days prior to the Fair. The current requirements for a Casual trading Licence are as follows:
a. Completed application form
b. 2 passport photographs of the licence holder
c. Proof of identity – Passport/drivers licence
d. Copy of public liability insurance policy of at least €6.4 million with Dublin City Council indemnified on the policy
e. Valid tax clearance certificate
f. Appropriate fee

Also the proposed bylaws restrict the fair to March and September.

http://www.dublincity.ie/RecreationandCulture/CasualTradingLicence/Documents/Draft_Smithfield_Horse_Fair_Control_Bye_Laws_Council_Sept_2012.pdf

humbert · 06-10-2012 11:17PM

Tell us a bit about this fair. Is it upstanding citizens, rural types and such, or is it a load of knackers (in the traditional sense of the word)?

jimpump · 06-10-2012 11:19PM

the kn,im mean travellers wont like that

the groutch · 06-10-2012 11:20PM

in before "ah here leave it out"

i71jskz5xu42pb · 06-10-2012 11:22PM

humbert wrote: »

Tell us a bit about this fair. Is it upstanding citizens, rural types and such, or is it a load of knackers (in the traditional sense of the word)?

Upstanding citizens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPDc5fMSFZY

MadsL · 07-10-2012 12:19AM

http://www.dublincity.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/85956/start_time/4709000

You do not need a jackboot and an AK47

Boombastic · 07-10-2012 12:29AM

this could be used as an opportunity to tag them, the horses I mean obviously

kowloon · 07-10-2012 01:04AM

Tax clearance certificate? :pac:

Pottler · 07-10-2012 01:23AM

kowloon wrote: »

Tax clearance certificate? :pac:

Well that's the end of that so!:D More chance of them coming up with a signed copy of the magna Carta tbf.

Lapin · 07-10-2012 02:07AM

So you now have to pay €30 just to sell a horse. :eek:
Daft rule dreamt up bu some pen pusher in City Hall that won't work.

Not much use to the prick who sold a pony there last year for €8.

He's down €22 on the gig.

Not that there is any chance in hell of a scum bucket like him coughing up 30 snots to the council in the first place.

im invisible · 07-10-2012 04:07AM

I suppose its only fair they pony up the cash. With the economy not being as stable as it once was the council have had to rein in the spending,

mikemac1 · 07-10-2012 04:13AM

I though this was getting shifted out of Smithfield and up to....

Actually I forget the name of the place.
It's the vacant land where there was an old mental hospital and DIT wanted to build a campus there

The Dubs will know it, I just forget

i71jskz5xu42pb · 07-10-2012 04:27AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

I though this was getting shifted out of Smithfield and up to....

Actually I forget the name of the place.
It's the vacant land where there was an old mental hospital and DIT wanted to build a campus there

The Dubs will know it, I just forget

Grangegorman

(I resent the implication that I might be a Dub)

corktina · 07-10-2012 06:55AM

get off your high-horses!

apache · 07-10-2012 08:46AM

About time something like this was brought in. I used to go to the fair when i was younger but haven't been in at least 10 years because its full of scum who treat their horses terribly.

Its unsafe in a built up area and too cruel. A lot of the horses are in bad shape and you can get kids buying one for a tenner! They sell other animals too - most again in bad shape.

This fair used to demonstrate a love of horses. Now it just demonstrates scumbags and knackers' cruelty and ill education.

The sooner its gone the better.

apache · 07-10-2012 08:50AM

Lapin wrote: »

So you now have to pay €30 just to sell a horse. :eek:
Daft rule dreamt up bu some pen pusher in City Hall that won't work.

Not much use to the prick who sold a pony there last year for €8.

He's down €22 on the gig.

Not that there is any chance in hell of a scum bucket like him coughing up 30 snots to the council in the first place.

Is that not the whole point? He won't be registered so will not be allowed to trade. That fair should have closed down a long time ago anyway. Dirtbags!

MadsL · 07-10-2012 08:51AM

apache wrote: »

Dirtbags!

Try not to hold in your feelings there, let it out. it's alright...let it all out.

apache · 07-10-2012 08:55AM

MadsL wrote: »

apache wrote: »

Dirtbags!

Try not to hold in your feelings there, let it out. it's alright...let it all out.

Just hate people who abuse animals and then turn around and say they love them. They use no saddle and drag the bit cutting into the horses mouth as they use that for balance. Yeah horse lovers allright. Should be illegal.

MadsL · 07-10-2012 08:58AM

apache wrote: »

Just hate people who abuse animals and then turn around and say they love them. They use no saddle and drag the bit cutting into the horses mouth as they use that for balance. Yeah horse lovers allright. Should be illegal.

So banning horse gatherings like this is the way to teach them a lesson eh? How would you know how things are now if you haven't been for 10 years?

apache · 07-10-2012 09:03AM

MadsL wrote: »

apache wrote: »

Just hate people who abuse animals and then turn around and say they love them. They use no saddle and drag the bit cutting into the horses mouth as they use that for balance. Yeah horse lovers allright. Should be illegal.

So banning horse gatherings like this is the way to teach them a lesson eh? How would you know how things are now if you haven't been for 10 years?

Yeah it is. If i have to work in the childrens court on the monday the knackbags just sleep over in the doorway with their horses from the sunday instead of going home.
I know a lot of these urban cowboys.
DCC shouldn't be promoting animal cruelty and criminal activity.

MadsL · 07-10-2012 09:05AM

apache wrote: »

DCC shouldn't be promoting animal cruelty and criminal activity.

They are not at the moment.

apache · 07-10-2012 09:11AM

They are and have been doing it a long time!

MadsL · 07-10-2012 02:05PM

apache wrote: »

They are and have been doing it a long time!

That's quite a statement. Care to back it up? In what ways are DCC promoting cruelty and criminal activity?

Rigol · 07-10-2012 02:09PM

Its ridiculous having horse-trading in the middle of the city. Get rid of it. Just move it to somewhere a bit further out. Blackrock maybe, or Dun Laoghaire.

Plenty of space in the country for horse sh.it, why do we need it in smithfield.

MadsL · 07-10-2012 02:13PM

Rigol wrote: »

Its ridiculous having horse-trading in the middle of the city. Get rid of it. Just move it to somewhere a bit further out. Blackrock maybe, or Dun Laoghaire.

Plenty of space in the country for horse sh.it, why do we need it in smithfield.

One argument runs, that it has always been there. Why is Blackrock or Dun Laoghaire more suitable? I lived in Smithfield for 7 years, it was generally grand.

How does it impact you?

i71jskz5xu42pb · 07-10-2012 02:24PM

Rigol wrote: »

Its ridiculous having horse-trading in the middle of the city. Get rid of it. Just move it to somewhere a bit further out. Blackrock maybe, or Dun Laoghaire.

You take that kind of thinking to its end you'll have the kind of anodyne, souless city centres that populate some of the continent and lots of the US. No thanks, I'll deal with a little horse **** in exchange for a bit of life/character.

Smithfield square is pretty much dead as it is, it needs livening up.

All that said it needs to be some way regulated, we could do without the animal abuse and dodgy element.

Mal-Adjusted · 07-10-2012 02:25PM

apache wrote: »

About time something like this was brought in. I used to go to the fair when i was younger but haven't been in at least 10 years because its full of scum who treat their horses terribly.

Its unsafe in a built up area and too cruel. A lot of the horses are in bad shape and you can get kids buying one for a tenner! They sell other animals too - most again in bad shape.

This fair used to demonstrate a love of horses. Now it just demonstrates scumbags and knackers' cruelty and ill education.

The sooner its gone the better.

You're well qualified to judge it so...

MaxSteele · 07-10-2012 02:37PM

Can't see the point in this fee.

That said, the fair is in serious need of cleaning up the element of knackers and scumbags.

Horse fair: Dublin City Council to charge €30 a horse casual trading fee

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