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what REAR light?

  • 05-10-2012 02:31PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭


    Like many cyclists I have spent hundreds of Euro on front lights. Recently I worked out that my Hope 4 LED light was worth more than the bike it was attached to.

    I reckon from a safety point of view that a rear light is as important as a front light, perhaps more so. While you can see ahead of you, you have no control over the learner driver/drunk idiot/hockey mom on her mobile phone in a people carrier behind you, a good bright red light in some cases the only 'defence'you have.

    I have not had good luck with rear lights. First I purchased about 10 rear lights from dealextreme in the premise that they are so cheap, if anything goes wrong I replace it. However every time I went over a bump with one of those lights it would turn off (there was some problem with the battery connection I could never get to the bottom of), fiece dangerous situation with me not knowing I have no rear light. There is hopefully a picture of that light attached, I cannot manage to insert into the text.

    The best rear light I have come across is the cateye that costs about 25 Euro, it looks like this
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/328127/223208.jpg
    it quite reliable and has a good light output.

    Anyone got recommendations for good, bright, reliable rear lights?

    Thanks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    deandean wrote: »
    Like many cyclists I have spent hundreds of Euro on front lights. Recently I worked out that my Hope 4 LED light was worth more than the bike it was attached to.

    I reckon from a safety point of view that a rear light is as important as a front light, perhaps more so. While you can see ahead of you, you have no control over the learner driver/drunk idiot/hockey mom on her mobile phone in a people carrier behind you, a good bright red light in some cases the only 'defence'you have.

    I have not had good luck with rear lights. First I purchased about 10 rear lights from dealextreme in the premise that they are so cheap, if anything goes wrong I replace it. However every time I went over a bump with one of those lights it would turn off (there was some problem with the battery connection I could never get to the bottom of), fiece dangerous situation with me not knowing I have no rear light. There is hopefully a picture of that light attached, I cannot manage to insert into the text.

    The best rear light I have come across is the cateye that costs about 25 Euro, it looks like this
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/328127/223208.jpg
    it quite reliable and has a good light output.

    Anyone got recommendations for good, bright, reliable rear lights?

    Thanks!

    I have that cateye and find it really good. Motorists have commented on how easily it was to see me with it. I also have a helmet with arear light. Used in combination, I think I am very visible on dark roads at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭MadDogGreener


    I got one of these last January, as my blackburn mars starting giving trouble.

    Its USB rechargeable, so I can charge at my desk in work. The batteries are standard rechargeable AAAs, so can swap them when they die. Its much brighter than the mars. There are two half-watt LEDs, each with a different lens, so has good visablilty. The only negative for me is that it feels a bit brittle. However its still going strong unlike the front leyzne superdrive that had to be replaced after 6months!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Appelgreen service stations are doing a back & front lamp special for €6,

    They seem good enough as I have had them on for two weeks without problems. They do many of the same functions as lamps that cost ten times the price. Comes inclusive of batteries. You also don't have to worry too much about getting them nicked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    My rear light ensemble comprises of

    This on the helmet (plugged into a diablo)

    Two of these on the backpack along with one of these

    From behind I look like this......

    Close-Encounters-of-the-Third-Kind.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Jawgap wrote: »

    I had one of the smart lunars but, possibly because the bit that clips out of the case is the whole light, it fell off the bike one evening. I've also had a number of cateyes fall off their mounts with a bit of wear.

    Current rear light is a Smart 1/2W (which hasn't fallen off yet and feels a lot more secure) and a set of reelights.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Jawgap wrote: »
    My rear light ensemble comprises of

    This on the helmet (plugged into a diablo)

    Two of these on the backpack along with one of these

    From behind I look like this......

    Close-Encounters-of-the-Third-Kind.jpg

    Do you have any bother with cats/dogs/wino's trying to follow you home?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    TK Maxx in Swords do some decent cheap sets. I use two of the rear lights - one on the bike and one on me. They are quite bright and more than adequate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    cdaly_ wrote: »
    I had one of the smart lunars but, possibly because the bit that clips out of the case is the whole light, it fell off the bike one evening. I've also had a number of cateyes fall off their mounts with a bit of wear.

    Current rear light is a Smart 1/2W (which hasn't fallen off yet and feels a lot more secure) and a set of reelights.

    I've had two SMART LED lights and on both of them the switch has broken very soon after getting them - so I now I have to open it put the batteries around the right way and on it goes - the first one went to it's eternal reward when I stood on it. The one I have at the moment works grand, apart from the switch issue.

    @Reilig - I haven't been followed home, but Ryanair and Aer Lingus flights have tried to land on me a few time when I've been cycling near the airport!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    I've seen this light on a few bikes around Dublin and it's by far the best I've seen
    http://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/TL-LD560-R/

    It will be my next rear light purchase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    I use the same Smart Lunar R1 that Jawgap uses, very happy with it. I have another, cheaper Smart light just above it on my seatpost, for extra light but also to discourage it from jumping out of its mount.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭feck sake lads


    cateye TL-LD1100 fantastic.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    I use this one and I am very happy with it. Superb light, very strong and versatile.

    As mad rear lights go, this one is actually not so daft. You get as much power as you could sensibly use, built into a sturdy light unit that will fit almost any bike, can be recharged while you work and is impossible to ignore. It's a reasonable price too, around £35 if you shop around, which brings it close to the likes of the Cateye TL-LD 1100 which is utterly feeble by comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭macnab


    I have the same as Seweryn, the moon-shield-rechargeable-tail-light. I only got it recently so I cant comment on reliability. It is without doubt the brighest tail light I have ever used. In fact I dont think I would use it on on the two higher settings unless it was very foggy. I found it a bit strange the first time I used it as it casts a strong shadow. But I have gotten used to that now so I no longer feel like I am being followed everywhere ha ha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭robertxxx


    Exposure flare, not too cheap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    I'm using one of these on the seatpost
    http://www.blackburndesign.com/lights.html

    and one of these on the back of the rack
    http://www.amazon.de/Busch-M%C3%BCller-Beleuchtung-Dynamo-Diodenr%C3%BCcklicht-Toplight/dp/B002NGY8O8 (battery-powered version also available)


    In terms of light output, the B&M light is 0.6W, and looks like the brake light of a car - it's very effective and I highly recommend it (even though it costs €40). In my opinion it's far better than the Cateye being recommended here.

    As a backup I also use the Mars 3.0, it provides decent side visibility too. I prefer it to the Smart 1/2W because I find that the smarts get water in them and then start acting funny, whereas the Mars is very reliable, same price and also has better side visibility.

    I also have one of these in the wheel
    http://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Spokelit-Bicycle-Light/dp/B001SN8IUM
    It's not great, but on dark, wet nights, or late on Friday or Saturday I'll turn it on as an extra warning thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭at1withmyself


    Hope Red Light District to match the front? You can use the one power source to power both lights. Its super bright and well built, bit pricey but worth it in my opinion.

    deandean wrote: »
    Like many cyclists I have spent hundreds of Euro on front lights. Recently I worked out that my Hope 4 LED light was worth more than the bike it was attached to.

    I reckon from a safety point of view that a rear light is as important as a front light, perhaps more so. While you can see ahead of you, you have no control over the learner driver/drunk idiot/hockey mom on her mobile phone in a people carrier behind you, a good bright red light in some cases the only 'defence'you have.

    I have not had good luck with rear lights. First I purchased about 10 rear lights from dealextreme in the premise that they are so cheap, if anything goes wrong I replace it. However every time I went over a bump with one of those lights it would turn off (there was some problem with the battery connection I could never get to the bottom of), fiece dangerous situation with me not knowing I have no rear light. There is hopefully a picture of that light attached, I cannot manage to insert into the text.

    The best rear light I have come across is the cateye that costs about 25 Euro, it looks like this
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/328127/223208.jpg
    it quite reliable and has a good light output.

    Anyone got recommendations for good, bright, reliable rear lights?

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    cdaly_ wrote: »

    Two of these for me.

    Both on seatpost - one flashing, one steady.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,765 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    cdaly_ wrote: »

    Current rear light is a Smart 1/2W (which hasn't fallen off yet and feels a lot more secure) .

    i have one of those and i'll raise you a smart 1w as well
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=56546

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,477 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    robertxxx wrote: »
    Exposure flare, not too cheap!
    I've been using the Blackburn Mars 4.0 for the past 2 or 3 winters - great light

    I've moved onto the Exposure Flare this year and it's even better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Keep_Her_Lit


    I use 2 lights front and rear once the nights close in, since I haven't found bicycle lights in general to be fantastically reliable over the years. On the rear, I carry a Cateye TL-LD1100 (as per feck sake lads) backed up with an older Cateye TL-LD600, both seriously good lights IMHO. That said, I've had to waterproof the switch on the TL-LD600 because the rain was playing havoc with it. But the fix has lasted well and the light is otherwise performing solidly.
    deandean wrote: »
    Like many cyclists I have spent hundreds of Euro on front lights.
    Well, if you're happy spending that kind of money on lights and you really want to go the whole hog with your rear light, I very much doubt that you'd find anything brighter than this Dinotte.

    Some lights are very bright. A select few are extremely bright. But I would descibe the Dinotte as violently bright! I caught up with a guy using one of these on the way home one night and felt like I was hallucinating by the time I managed to draw alongside. I've never seen a rear light on any road going vehicle anywhere near as bright as this thing. It was ridiculous, TBH.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    macnab wrote: »
    I have the same as Seweryn, the moon-shield-rechargeable-tail-light. I only got it recently so I cant comment on reliability.
    I can actually, as I cycle all year round in all weather conditions. The light never failed and serves me very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I find the Smart 1W set to steady very good. I used to use two 1/2 Watts, but I find the single 1W suffices now. If you're on a hairy stretch of road, you can set it to flash, which is quite attention-grabbing; too much so for normal use, I decided.

    EDIT: Only had one problem with it. I hit this pothole on the South Circular Road the other day while out on the Brompton and the light leapt off. The back of the light stayed in the bracket, but the batteries and the main body were shaken so hard by the impact that they parted company with the back of the unit.

    223276.jpg

    EDIT: I have now emailed the council to see about getting this pothole filled in. It's very hard to see, especially after rain, and it's really quite deep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭donal7


    Beasty wrote: »
    I've been using the Blackburn Mars 4.0 for the past 2 or 3 winters - great light

    I've moved onto the Exposure Flare this year and it's even better

    I've read good things about this light. Is it waterproof?

    I had a Smart half watt LED which stopped working when out during the rain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    I'm using a Moon Shield at the moment:

    1328105532104-ncnb5pstvgth-670-75.jpg

    Pros:
    • USB Chargeable. I plug it in once a week and away I go!
    • Rubber mount means it can fit all seatposts without any fiddling with clamps or adapters
    • 60 Lumen output at its brightest setting

    Cons:
    • Rubber mount means its slightly elastic, the light can end up pointing at a less than idea angle on bumpier roads
    • Relatively expensive


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,477 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    donal7 wrote: »
    I've read good things about this light. Is it waterproof?
    Never any problems, and they've both been through some major deluges


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,053 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    I have a Cateye-TL-LD610 and a Smart older 0.5w rear. TBH I prefer the Smart its got a brighter white flash. I have another Cateye - SL-100 hanging on the back of the jacket. You can use cable ties to secure a light from jumping out of a bracket assuming you leave it parked securely.

    At some point I hope to upgrade to something brighter that's USB rechargeable. But these ones have been out in all weathers for a year or so and still going well.

    I note some people have good lights but low on batteries and some have good lights but obscured by other things like a bag, jacket etc. Some have lights which are too bright, when your driving you have to shield your eyes from them, and not look at them. Which is kinda self defeating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭VanhireBoys


    I use this one and its really good - Have a BBB backup just in case

    http://www.magicshineuk.co.uk/products/Rear-Light-Magicshine-MJ-818RLGT

    I have this front and its superb.. Reallys gets you noticed on the Headford Road (Magic) Roundabout

    http://www.magicshineuk.co.uk/products/MJ-880-light-set-most-powerful-light-from-Magicshine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,483 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    I've spent some time researching rear lights in the last week and come to the conclusion that the marketplace for bike lights is now completely bonkers.

    A couple of years ago there was a special offer on Smart 1/2W rear LED lights (around a fiver IIRC), and a bunch of boardsies piled in. The consensus at the time was that 1/2W was just about perfect for a rear light - bright without being blinding, and decent runtime. Those Smart lights were perhaps putting out 30 lumens.

    Fast forward a couple of years and we have the Shield 60 (60 lumens), Exposure Flare (75 lumens), Exposure Blaze (80 lumens), Hope District (105-135 lumens), all the way up to the Dinotte 400R (400 lumens).

    The Hope District is almost €200. A fiver. Two hundred euros. Haven't we done well?

    Here is a video of the Dinotte:



    What possible justification is there for a bike light like this? If cycling continues to "normalise" as an activity the city streets are going to be filled with these cretins.

    Some of the commentary around these lights includes assertions like "they're not blinding if you point them down at the road" and "I use them in daytime to make myself more visible".

    Great, so we're now competing with the sun, which apparently produces around 400 billion billion billion lumens. Plenty of scope for upgrades.

    And don't get me started on strobing 1000 lumen+ front lights...

    It's not like night time cycling presents any particular hazards that justify this. It's an extension of the "cars are going to kill me" paranoia behind hi-vis, but somehow these lights have dodged the stigma, perhaps because there are gadgets involved.

    All I want is a well sealed USB-rechargeable light with the same brightness as a 1/2W removable-battery light, that attaches quickly and securely and doesn't look hideous. There are almost no lights which meet this criteria.

    I ended up ordering a Shield 60 on Dirk's recommendation. It's probably too bright so I'll run it on low.

    Anyway, I found this which may or may not be useful as it doesn't cover a lot of the current most popular lights...

    http://bicycles.blogoverflow.com/2012/03/tail-light-review/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,483 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Oh, and it's "Which rear light?".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 573 ✭✭✭el Bastardo


    I use a Hope District. Great light - It didn't cost €200 either ;). Don't mind who thinks I'm a cretin if it keeps a speeding motorist from putting me in a box.

    Was using a BBB Highlaser until it bounced off it's mount last week - Godd for urban areas, but crap mount (obviously).


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