Are US cops lunatics?

asherbassad · 03-10-2012 12:47AM #1

Before anyone kicks off about how brave and heroic these guys are I'd like to know if doing a "tough job" (though it's not that tough at all) excuses behaviour like this:

Cop blows away a woman in a car:

http://rt.com/usa/news/five-border-agent-car-431/

Cop batters a man in a wheelchair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YnvrI2vikE

TSA frisk toddler in a wheelchair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umMfAV8vNo

Biggins · 03-10-2012 12:48AM

asherbassad wrote: »

Before anyone kicks off about how brave and heroic these guys are I'd like to know if doing a "tough job" (though it's not that tough at all) excuses behaviour like this:

Cop blows away a woman in a car:

http://rt.com/usa/news/five-border-agent-car-431/

Cop batters a man in a wheelchair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YnvrI2vikE

TSA frisk toddler in a wheelchair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umMfAV8vNo

So TWO incidents of cops and one of a totally separate different airport agency?

Yea, lets taint them all - every one of them.

cursai · 03-10-2012 12:48AM

Cue corrib gas and may day parade videos alongside general Garda/real life haters.

partyatmygaff · 03-10-2012 12:50AM

Some US cops are lunatics, some are heroes who are very good at their job. It's the same in any country, the only difference is the US police are armed. An unarmed cop on a power trip isn't too bad but give them weaponry and they become heavy handed.

And the TSA aren't "cops" or a police force.

Thrill · 03-10-2012 12:51AM

U.S. cops, a rotten bunch of lads.

minidazzler · 03-10-2012 12:51AM

There are 35000 cops in New York City alone. I am pretty sure they are not all lunatics. There are plenty who are mental, but some will slip through the psych evaluations.

Youssef Chippo · 03-10-2012 12:52AM

TSA officers aren't cops.

Cops in the US are no better or worse than any other country. Corruption is rife among many police forces, taking bribes, brutality, etc.

aaronjumper · 03-10-2012 12:55AM

There are assholes in every profession, you just have to hope that you won't have to deal with them.

Sir Pompous Righteousness · 03-10-2012 12:55AM

I don't think it's fair to call all US cops lunatics. Sure, there are a few nutjobs as there are in every profession, but you can't say they all are.

Geekness1234 · 03-10-2012 12:57AM

Out of the 3 links you posted one was actually about a cop.
The first link/video was way out of line by anyone's standards,but taring every Policeman in the U.S. is a completely over the top.
Other one was about Border Patrol and the other TSA.Both separate departments.

RMD · 03-10-2012 01:02AM

Nope, the vast majority aren't. Problem is when you give them guns, tazers and CS gas without rigid enforcement and engagement rules, cops become more brash in their actions. American police can get away with a greater no bullshít approach than here in the UK, but often this leads to an abuse of power.

Here's an example of brilliant policework from an American cop. Story behind this incident is that this idiotic "activist" was openly walking through public areas with a semi-automatic reproduction of a gun usually manufactured as an automatic. He was "exercising" his second amendment and hopping to create some bullshít video of police abusing their powers. How a person can walk through a public area with a gun resembling a fully automatic weapon, let alone openly brandishing a weapon is beyond me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbkaAO_3A1o

asherbassad · 03-10-2012 01:04AM

Youssef Chippo wrote: »

TSA officers aren't cops.

Cops in the US are no better or worse than any other country. Corruption is rife among many police forces, taking bribes, brutality, etc.

Ah well that makes it alright then.

B.A._Baracus · 03-10-2012 01:04AM

Am I too late to say that the last clip is that of a TSA agent?

oh nuts I am

gotta go be smug somewhere else so ...

Soby · 03-10-2012 01:10AM

Yes they are , too take on a job like that

MP62 · 03-10-2012 01:13AM

asherbassad wrote: »

Before anyone kicks off about how brave and heroic these guys are I'd like to know if doing a "tough job" (though it's not that tough at all) excuses behaviour like this:

Cop blows away a woman in a car:

http://rt.com/usa/news/five-border-agent-car-431/

Cop batters a man in a wheelchair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YnvrI2vikE

TSA frisk toddler in a wheelchair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umMfAV8vNo

Why's a cop giving a blowjob to a woman in a wheelchair car while a toddler is watching?

Madam Marie · 03-10-2012 01:15AM

Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

asherbassad · 03-10-2012 01:17AM

Biggins wrote: »

So TWO incidents of cops and one of a totally separate diffident airport agency?

Yea, lets taint them all - every one of them.

TWO incidents? TWO?

Abner Louima getting raped with a plunger?
Cops pepper spraying girls at demonstrations?
Cops beating to death homeless schizophrenics screaming for their mothers?
Cops shooting an unarmed man FORTY ONE TIMES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRhSPWznmQM

http://www.google.com/search?q=us+police+brutality&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=EoJrUN3nHonXrAGM4YGABg&sqi=2&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=624

How many examples do you need before you stop quacking out the "isolated incidents" and "a few bad apples" nonsense?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/24/us-police-brutality-worst-examples

token101 · 03-10-2012 01:18AM

Hardly just the US though is it? you need only look at that Brazilian guy in London to see that. OP seems to have an issue with any sort of US authority.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 03-10-2012 01:19AM

asherbassad wrote: »

How many examples do you need before you stop quacking out the "isolated incidents" and "a few bad apples" nonsense?

Six thousand. Get to work.

IvySlayer · 03-10-2012 01:21AM

The TSA are really hated in America. The touching and feeling they do is really intrusive. Some kids are even strip searched There was once a pilot and they asked to see his penis and he refused, they wouldn't let him pass.

Biggins · 03-10-2012 01:21AM

asherbassad wrote: »

TWO incidents? TWO?

Yes, the TWO you listed first listed.
Not three which you seem to espouse is all cops!

Your attitude stinks of having a gripe or chip on your shoulder about them.
Get over it.

asherbassad · 03-10-2012 01:23AM

cursai wrote: »

Cue corrib gas and may day parade videos alongside general Garda/real life haters.

I've lived in many countries.
Garda Siochana are salt of the earth so are Dutch cops.
German cops sound too. US cops are thugs and the Met are bastards.

But hey, I guess that's real life, huh?

IvySlayer · 03-10-2012 01:24AM

I've been in the States before, only had 1 encounter with the police. Asked for directions from one, he was sound, he started singing the directions

El Horseboxo · 03-10-2012 01:25AM

I'm not excusing any actions of cops but think it's unfair to say they don't have a tough job. Depending on location being a cop in the US is extremely tough both physically and mentally. I'm not a cop but I'm in law enforcement and I don't envy some of the street guys at all. I've had ride ins when assisting local police and they can be pushed right to the edge on patrol. A majority are good ones and can handle walking the line. Unfortunately some that never should have worn a uniform slip through the cracks and get a badge. Poor psych eval testing and pushes for recruitment while implementing cutbacks contribute towards that according to some of the older guys I've talked to.

MP62 · 03-10-2012 01:26AM

asherbassad wrote: »

cursai wrote: »

Cue corrib gas and may day parade videos alongside general Garda/real life haters.

I've lived in many countries.
Garda Siochana are salt of the earth so are Dutch cops.
German cops sound too. US cops are thugs and the Met are bastards.

But hey, I guess that's real life, huh?

Sounds like you're maybe the problem If you keep having all these encounters with the police.

asherbassad · 03-10-2012 01:27AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Am I too late to say that the last clip is that of a TSA agent?

oh nuts I am gotta go be smug somewhere else so ...

We all know the TSA aren't cops per se. They are usually too thick to pass the chimpanzee test to become a US cop. They're law enforcement nonetheless. Their attitude is the same. It's just that their reading and writing skills aren't above 4th grade.

Biggins · 03-10-2012 01:28AM

asherbassad wrote: »

...it's just that their reading and writing skills aren't above 4th grade.

Thats the greatest load of cobblers I've read here in a while.
Keep it up - your doing your argument well.

token101 · 03-10-2012 01:29AM

asherbassad wrote: »

I've lived in many countries.
Garda Siochana are salt of the earth so are Dutch cops.
German cops sound too. US cops are thugs and the Met are bastards.

But hey, I guess that's real life, huh?

No that's just your stupid ****ing generalisations. Have you met every American cop? Every Met policeman?

asherbassad · 03-10-2012 01:30AM

token101 wrote: »

Hardly just the US though is it? you need only look at that Brazilian guy in London to see that. OP seems to have an issue with any sort of US authority.

Why are you bringing up London cops? We're talking about US cops here.

token101 · 03-10-2012 01:31AM

asherbassad wrote: »

We all know the TSA aren't cops per se. They are usually too thick to pass the chimpanzee test to become a US cop. They're law enforcement nonetheless. Their attitude is the same. It's just that their reading and writing skills aren't above 4th grade.

Bit like your arguing skills.

Biggins · 03-10-2012 01:32AM

asherbassad wrote: »

...US cops are thugs and the Met are bastards.

But hey, I guess that's real life, huh?

No, thats your venom filled opinion.

Habeas corpus please!

Are US cops lunatics?

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