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Looper *SPOILERS FROM POST 137*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,508 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    people, can we at least wait until we see the movie, then we can pick holes at the time travel!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,872 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Thoroughly enjoyed this - a smart slice of superior entertainment. This isn't exactly Primer in its complexity (although Shane Carruth does get a special thanks ;)), but it manages to build a very engaging thriller around a well-realised central concept. For me its three for three with Johnson now - a consistent purveyor of distinctive and interesting genre films, that both embrace and subvert tradition.

    While elements of the plot may be familiar, it actually manages to impressively reinvigorate some of them
    (particularly the superpowered kid, who enjoys several of the film's most excellent setpieces).
    There's some great directorial moments - absolutely love the opening - and the film builds a convincing futuristic world. Background details - from the social inequality to the vehicles - enhance the world without the need for endless exposition. While there's obviously much explaining to be done concerning the central mind-bending concepts, the near future realised by Johnson is an endearingly bleak and grounded place, and a strong sci-fi setting.

    The film does take on an unusually considered pace during the second act: some bits in the farmhouse felt like they could use more energy. But at the same time there are few wasted scenes
    (I enjoyed how TK initially seemed like a throwaway detail, but became a vital plot point later on)
    and the film's strange pacing allows Johnson to convincingly establish character motivations and relationships. The conflicts are consistently dramatically engaging and ethically curious. Performances are good, although didn't recognise Emily Blunt at all! Knew she looked familiar, but was surprised when the end credits rolled and her name popped up!

    All in all, great fun. While its original concepts are backed-up by an occasionally familiar narrative, this is a strong mix of the traditional and the new. The script has a strong and potentially confusing central idea, but realises it in a wholly accessible and entertaining way. It also has a great ending -
    satisfyingly resolving potential paradoxes while not condescendingly wrapping every single loose end.

    Also, Dun Laoghaire cinema has a glorious 35mm print of this, and it's showing in the well-sized screen one. I highly recommend making the trip if it's within reasonable travelling distance - there's something distinctively cinematic about the cinematography of the film, and was delighted to see it in its original format.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Haven't seen this yet but looking forward to it. Joseph Gordon-Levitt has been truly excellent in all his films in the last 3/4 years so I expect nothing less from him in Looper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    Just seen it. Great movie. Time travel is one of those concepts in movies I love and this felt new yet familiar.

    I have a question about the ending though:
    was the final moment with joe lying dead and Sarah stroking his hair implying he was her son?

    I'm fine with that as a plot point, but slightly repulsed by how she got it on with him too. Seems like it was a good choice to kill himself if he would have ever found that out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,510 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    I liked it, kept me fairly engaged although the pacing is somewhat ponderous; the film could benefit from at least 15 minutes of so or cuts - fair bit of restlessness among the - fairly geeky and almost full - audience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,510 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    CMpunked wrote: »
    Just seen it. Great movie. Time travel is one of those concepts in movies I love and this felt new yet familiar.

    I have a question about the ending though:
    was the final moment with joe lying dead and Sarah stroking his hair implying he was her son?

    I'm fine with that as a plot point, but slightly repulsed by how she got it on with him too. Seems like it was a good choice to kill himself if he would have ever found that out.

    No.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,872 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    CMpunked wrote: »
    Just seen it. Great movie. Time travel is one of those concepts in movies I love and this felt new yet familiar.

    I have a question about the ending though:
    was the final moment with joe lying dead and Sarah stroking his hair implying he was her son?

    I'm fine with that as a plot point, but slightly repulsed by how she got it on with him too. Seems like it was a good choice to kill himself if he would have ever found that out.

    Don't think that interpretation was intended at all :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    Don't think that interpretation was intended at all :pac:

    Really? Aw. I thought how she
    was rubbing his hair and how he said earlier to the stripper/hooker; "When i was a boy my mom would run her hands through my hair like this".
    The person i went with somewhat agreed how Joe didnt know his upbringing other than being given up a little older than the kid.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,872 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    CMpunked wrote: »
    Really? Aw. I thought how she
    was rubbing his hair and how he said earlier to the stripper/hooker; "When i was a boy my mom would run her hands through my hair like this".
    The person i went with somewhat agreed how Joe didnt know his upbringing other than being given up a little older than the kid.

    I can actually see how you came to the conclusion, but it would be a completely nonsensical resolution. Even within Looper's world, it doesn't make a lick of sense for
    Joe to have sex with someone and the resulting offspring to be Joe
    :pac: Or if you mean
    a different father
    , it would wreak complete havoc with the timeline - the amount of time travelling necessary to get everyone back to 2044 for no particular reason would be farcical. No, I think the examples you cited are just some of the events that led
    Joe to realise that he had to keep mother and child together
    .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Loved it, like people have said it could with being 10-15 mins shorter the scenes
    on the farm dragged a little bit
    but they were necessary to set up the ending.

    One thing I will say though, that kid gives an incredible performance in it, he stole the film. That scene where
    he starts to Hulk up and the mother makes a run for the safe was excellent, came out of nowhere as well.

    Also why do we see
    Bruce Willis going back twice? the first time he appears, turns gets blasted in the back and then lobs the gold at JGL and knocks him out, pov shot, we later see that exact same scene from a different wide cut, but then there's the short scene where Willis appears and he shoots him, I didnt really get it


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,872 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    krudler wrote: »
    Also why do we see
    Bruce Willis going back twice? the first time he appears, turns gets blasted in the back and then lobs the gold at JGL and knocks him out, pov shot, we later see that exact same scene from a different wide cut, but then there's the short scene where Willis appears and he shoots him, I didnt really get it

    It's confusing to explain but...
    When Old Joe is killed by young Joe that sets off one timeline, in which he moves to China and gets married (the montage). But when it reaches the point in that timeline where he has to go back and have his loop closed, he 'escapes'. Then he travels back to the past and knocks out Young Joe, which instigates the film's primary timeline / paradox thing, which continues on for the rest of the film.

    So to put it not simply at all: the Old Joe that travels back the second time is the one that shot and killed his older self as his younger self the first time around

    Fact: the film is still only about one-tenth as complicated as Primer though :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    It's confusing to explain but...
    When Old Joe is killed by young Joe that sets off one timeline, in which he moves to China and gets married (the montage). But when it reaches the point in that timeline where he has to go back and have his loop closed, he 'escapes'. Then he travels back to the past and knocks out Young Joe, which instigates the film's primary timeline / paradox thing, which continues on for the rest of the film.

    So to put it not simply at all: the Old Joe that travels back the second time is the one that shot and killed his older self as his younger self the first time around

    Fact: the film is still only about one-tenth as complicated as Primer though :P

    Ah ok, that makes more sense. I wonder does the time travel mechanics in this work within a window or something, because
    if Old Joe was "late" getting into the machine himself because he takes out the guys, which is why we see young Joe checking the watch, technically it wouldnt matter. If he's being sent to a specific time in the past say 12.01pm then it woulndt matter how long he takes to climb into the machine in the future he'd always arrive there at that exact time in the past if the arrival time is set. Unless its exactly 30 years from the time the machine is activated and its just a set window they travel back to , which is why the loopers have to be there waiting

    Definitely want to see it again though, and yeah Primer is mind boggling compared to this, time travel movies always get hairy when you have closed loops ala The Terminator and then alternate ones like BTTF.

    wonder will they leave it as a standalone piece or make sequels.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,460 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I'm dying to see this. Like Avengers, Prometheus and TDKR before it all I want to do is highlight all the spoiler text and see what you're all talking about. :D Hopefully get to see it tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Enjoyed the film, it's very decent sci-fi with some good performances. The story holds quite ok considering the possibilities. The kid is excellent and a real standout.

    However there's a few things that bugged me a little.
    When they say that disposing of the dead is almost impossible in the future, hence the whole premise of the film, they only mention that it's because of 'tagging' and then abolsutely nothing else. Quite lazy I thought considering it's the whole fact that the film revolves around.

    I thought the film moved too fast between segments, the bit in China with the time machine and the years spent abroad before that. It gave a very poor sense of time passed I thought.

    Enjoyable film overall though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    JGL should have just
    blew off his own hand at the end, would have stopped old Joe from firing the gun


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Gauss


    Is it better than Lawless, can't choose which to see tonight.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,872 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Gauss wrote: »
    Is it better than Lawless, can't choose which to see tonight.

    **** yeah its better. By a very considerable margin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Gauss wrote: »
    Is it better than Lawless, can't choose which to see tonight.

    the lack of Shia LeBoeuf is enough to warrant it being better than Lawless :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Was pleasantly surprised by this, much more than a no-brainer Sci-fi tbh. It's a very good story very well delivered IMHO.

    You can't talk about time travel without getting into mind melting paradoxes and 'what-if's" - but they do a good job of covering all the angles here, well as much as can be done within the confines of a movie script.

    I haven't seen Primer but might have to check it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Savman wrote: »
    Was pleasantly surprised by this, much more than a no-brainer Sci-fi tbh. It's a very good story very well delivered IMHO.

    You can't talk about time travel without getting into mind melting paradoxes and 'what-if's" - but they do a good job of covering all the angles here, well as much as can be done within the confines of a movie script.

    I haven't seen Primer but might have to check it out.

    Do, its on netflix afaik, well worth a watch. Be prepared for some brain meltage though, the wikipedia article is worth a read afterwards as it explains the timelines.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Savman wrote: »
    I haven't seen Primer but might have to check it out.

    You need to watch it once to get a feel for it, a second time with pen and paper and then a third time to start to get a grasp of what the hell is going on :p



    I found Looper to be a good show but hilariously predictable once you get to the
    TK Kid
    .

    I also didn't like the way the temporal mechanics worked and the resolution, while poignant, doesn't work at all when you actually follow the thread through.

    Overall I liked it, interesting and entertaining enough but never quite reaches the levels of brilliance promised.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭Ciaran_B


    krudler wrote: »
    JGL should have just
    blew off his own hand at the end, would have stopped old Joe from firing the gun

    But
    then his hand would just disappear, causing him no pain. He'd just pick up the gun with his remaining hand and kill the annoying kid anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Ciaran_B wrote: »
    But
    then his hand would just disappear, causing him no pain. He'd just pick up the gun with his remaining hand and kill the annoying kid anyway.

    I was joking :pac: unless he
    blew off both hands, but that would have seemed stupid, the scene earlier where the guy starts falling apart as the doctor is slicing up his younger self was brilliant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    I want to see this during the week I love sci fi. Does the willis give a good performance ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    ricero wrote: »
    I want to see this during the week I love sci fi. Does the willis give a good performance ?

    He's just Willis tbh, Levitt does a good job of impersonating his mannerisms, the makeup varies from pretty good to a bit odd looking depending on angles and lighting etc. Emily Blunt is good too, but the real standout performance isn't any of them tbh, someone else steals the entire film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭lc180


    Just back from seeing Looper, saw the trailer a couple months ago and have purposely tried to avoid any ads or clips on tv since just so I wouldn't know what to expect. Glad I did, thought the film was really impressive.

    My head was about to explode at one stage there was so much going on! Glad to see BW in a decent film, JGL was impressive once again. loved the supporting cast also, some great actors in this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Anyone else feel like they got a different film than they were expecting from the trailer? Trailer made it seem like a non-stop action film which clearly wasn't the case. It was also nice that they kept the other story line out of the trailers altogether. I can't remember the last time I was genuinely surprised by a film simply because I didn't know what to expect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Anyone else feel like they got a different film than they were expecting from the trailer? Trailer made it seem like a non-stop action film which clearly wasn't the case. It was also nice that they kept the other story line out of the trailers altogether. I can't remember the last time I was genuinely surprised by a film simply because I didn't know what to expect.

    Me either, I saw one trailer a few months back and hadn't really kept up with the production at all, I knew the basics and it was about time travel but that was it, and yeah its not an out and out action film, there's a lull in the second act that goes on a bit too long, seems to be the only complaint I've heard from people thats its 10-15 mins too long. But it does have some excellent scenes, the whole cinema tensed up when
    the kid slipped on the stairs and everything went into slow motion, that was a fantastic scene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,421 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    krudler wrote: »
    I was joking :pac: unless he
    blew off both hands, but that would have seemed stupid, the scene earlier where the guy starts falling apart as the doctor is slicing up his younger self was brilliant

    did find
    that early scene hard to watch, did a good job setting up the movie though, what the consequences are if caught etc

    The old and young look was convincing although looked like too much makeup at times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Watched it last night and to be honest it left me underwhelmed. Some intriguing ideas, if none particularly unparalleled, were all mired by absolutely ponderous pacing.

    While others have commented that the movie could have been shortened by a good quarter of-an-hour, I feel the running time was fine but could have been much better utilised; for instance, a good percentage of the farm scenes,
    in particular the spectacularly buffoonish incident with the mute vagrant
    could have all been excised and the time used to flesh out "Old" Joe's back-story... or should that be fore-story.
    Primarily, as the woman he's willing to kill three children for was not given even a single word of dialogue, we're not really given the chance to empathise with the character, to judge for ourselves if his reprehensible actions can in anyway be understood

    I did rather enjoy the futurist vehicles built primarily from relics of the nineties, ie battered Daewoos and Hyundais strapped with cheap hosing and cabling. I'll give the production team the benefit of the doubt that these were homages to the future-set movies of the seventies and eighties and were not simply slipshod constructions.

    So in summation, and as "Looper" has a certain amount of innuendo to Irish viewers, my one word review for the movie would be; Daycent.
    Just one of the handful of things I didn't quite grasp however was, why was Paul Dano's younger self tortured and mutilated to coerce his older self to the lair of the bad guys, why not just kill the already captured younger version and eliminate both versions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Watched it last night and to be honest it left me underwhelmed. Some intriguing ideas, if none particularly unparalleled, were all mired by absolutely ponderous pacing.

    While others have commented that the movie could have been shortened by a good quarter of-an-hour, I feel the running time was fine but could have been much better utilised; for instance, a good percentage of the farm scenes,
    in particular the spectacularly buffoonish incident with the mute vagrant
    could have all been excised and the time used to flesh out "Old" Joe's back-story... or should that be fore-story.
    Primarily, as the woman he's willing to kill three children for was not given even a single word of dialogue, we're not really given the chance to empathise with the character, to judge for ourselves if his reprehensible actions can in anyway be understood

    I did rather enjoy the futurist vehicles built primarily from relics of the nineties, ie battered Daewoos and Hyundais strapped with cheap hosing and cabling. I'll give the production team the benefit of the doubt that these were homages to the future-set movies of the seventies and eighties and were not simply slipshod constructions.

    So in summation, and as "Looper" has a certain amount of innuendo to Irish viewers, my one word review for the movie would be; Daycent.
    Just one of the handful of things I didn't quite grasp however was, why was Paul Dano's younger self tortured and mutilated to coerce his older self to the lair of the bad guys, why not just kill the already captured younger version and eliminate both versions?

    I think the thing with Paul Dano's character was basically
    to set up how inflicting damage to the current self could affect the older/future body, they could have explained it with a line of dialogue but hey, that was a cool sequence. I did like the "other waitress" joke after Levitt carves Beatrixes name into his arm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    krudler wrote: »
    I think the thing with Paul Dano's character was basically
    to set up how inflicting damage to the current self could affect the older/future body, they could have explained it with a line of dialogue but hey, that was a cool sequence. I did like the "other waitress" joke after Levitt carves Beatrixes name into his arm

    Maybe also it was
    That they straight up didnt want him dead. Abe said to young joe that he wasnt going to kill him "if we can help it". So maybe this is the consequence for those who let the loop run in that they aren't told exactly what is happened but they are left mutilated for the rest of their life because death for them would be too easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    CMpunked wrote: »
    Maybe also it was
    That they straight up didnt want him dead. Abe said to young joe that he wasnt going to kill him "if we can help it". So maybe this is the consequence for those who let the loop run in that they aren't told exactly what is happened but they are left mutilated for the rest of their life because death for them would be too easy.

    That too, I thought
    we could have seen more of Jeff Daniels, you don't see how he died, or how Willis walked into a room with 4 guys and beat them all without taking a scratch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭SmokeyEyes


    I love movies like this so knew I was in for a treat. I really liked it although I felt the middle was a little heavy and could have been a little more exciting. Overall a really enjoyable movie, I think I just got my expectations a little too high...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    krudler wrote: »
    That too, I thought
    we could have seen more of Jeff Daniels, you don't see how he died, or how Willis walked into a room with 4 guys and beat them all without taking a scratch
    I was a little disappointed that neither he or kid blue had any meaning in the big picture.
    JGL said Abe was someone sent back from the future into the past to oversee something but couldnt be bothered using firepower himself so he formed the loopers. (or something to that affect).
    I thought that would hint at something about his background, for example when he smacked kid blue on the hand and bust his fingers that later on we would see that abes fingers were messed up and the two were the same person.

    Little far fetched i know, but was thought there would be something more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Just one of the handful of things I didn't quite grasp however was, why was Paul Dano's younger self tortured and mutilated to coerce his older self to the lair of the bad guys, why not just kill the already captured younger version and eliminate both versions?

    Unforeseen consequences to the timeline was the weak excuse, particularly since they reduced any impact he could have had in the future anyway.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,460 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Saw this and Killing Them Softly together this evening. Thought Looper was by far the better movie. It was a lot less action packed than I expected but that didn't really turn out to be a bad thing at all. There was a lot of character building in it, some pretty emotional parts too. Was
    quite surprised they had old Joe go through with killing one of the kids, expected to see the kid alive at a later point in the film. Also kudos for them not going down the more predictable route of having the two Joes full on team up and take down the system, did not see the TK kid(who was brilliant) coming at all.

    One thing that surprised me for a time travel movie like this was how straight forward the whole thing was, there was practically no ambiguity with how the plot played out really.

    I was left wondering about a few things though:
    Why didn't old Joe just put down his gun at the end? Surely he should have remembered coming to the realisation that he was the reason the kid goes bad? I guess maybe the memories don't come around quick enough or something(it seemed pretty quick when the kid killed Jesse though), but that would have fit better for me rather than having young Joe shoot himself. Or maybe I'm just a wuss for wanting Joe to come of it alive :)
    I was also convinced that Abe and kid Blue were the same person, couldn't think of any other reason for kid blue to act the way he did rather than them being father and son, but that would make no sense. I'm wondering was there anything cut explaining their relationship more.
    I was also thinking was it implied that the kid was actually the one who went on to invent time travel since he seemed to be super intelligent on top of his powers. Doesn't really have any impact on the story that one, just thinking out loud.

    If I really wanted to nitpick I could also say that willis should have disappeared earlier in the movie since the timeline was so ****ed up from his shenanigans anyway but that kind of logic has no place within a time travel movie :P



    Anyhoo, I thought this was a top notch sci-fi, more of this please hollywood!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭fluke


    Back from seeing this earlier. Have to say I loved it. Had little or no expectations and I knew about the time travel concept
    but not of the mutant angle
    , so that was a nice surprise. Coyote Ugly had her moment too.

    That scene
    where the enforcer is slowly split open by the child had the whole cinema gasping

    I might be going out on a limb but did anyone think the movie had this subtle anti-drug message going on in it?

    Lots to like about this film.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,460 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    fluke wrote: »



    I might be going out on a limb but did anyone think the movie had this subtle anti-drug message going on in it?

    Not really, I just thought that was part of Joe's character arch where
    he learns a bit of cop on and cleans up his act a bit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭fluke


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Not really, I just thought that was part of Joe's character arch where
    he learns a bit of cop on and cleans up his act a bit.

    Hmm,
    it just seemed like young Joe was up to his eyes in ..eyedrops, his older self eventually was weened off of drugs but in the in-between he had done some terrible shit just to keep getting his hands on drugs. Emily Blunt's character (when she pretty much abandoned her son) was living it up in the city getting wasted and whatnot.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,460 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    fluke wrote: »
    Hmm,
    it just seemed like young Joe was up to his eyes in ..eyedrops, his older self eventually was weened off of drugs but in the in-between he had done some terrible shit just to keep getting his hands on drugs. Emily Blunt's character (when she pretty much abandoned her son) was living it up in the city getting wasted and whatnot.

    Fair point,
    had forgotten about Blunt's character's shady past too. Suppose it was a theme of some sort in the film then.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I saw it last night on a bit of an impulse really. I did see a trailer for it a few months ago thought it looked good but just saw that one trailer!

    I really enjoyed it. The plot was good, the acting was good, and the effects were good. Plus
    Emily Blunt in those jeans chopping the tree stump :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    fluke wrote: »
    That scene
    where the enforcer is slowly split open by the child had the whole cinema gasping

    The theatre i was in
    was dead silent until you could hear one girl literally whispering "oh my god" and that only arose the tension even more.
    Absolutely superb.

    Its those moments that i'm really glad I've watched the movie in a communal setting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    CMpunked wrote: »
    The theatre i was in
    was dead silent until you could hear one girl literally whispering "oh my god" and that only arose the tension even more.
    Absolutely superb.

    Its those moments that i'm really glad I've watched the movie in a communal setting.

    that whole sequence was the best part of the movie I thought, loved
    the panning shot from outside the house showing the remains of the guy pouring out the window. Its strange seeing a a movie where kids are murdered, you see a child get shot in the face like, granted he lives but still.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Saw it this morning (5.90 for cinema tickets tastes good) and it deservers high-praise for what it is: a solid action-thriller with a reasonably clever sci-fi twist and decent characterisation. The one complaint would be that the train comes to a screeching halt when we reach the farm - the pacing completely bottoms out and it all becomes lethargic. So the first and last third are great, the middle needed work.
    The revelation about the kid I had suspected as soon he started behaving in that classic 'slightly freaky & knowing child' cinema likes to use for supernatural elements. Between that and the apparently throwaway comments about TK'ers previously, I instantly knew this was a case of an infantile Chekov's Gun :)

    I think like most films that use time travel as its central device, it's a bit pointless trying to work out all the kinks in its logic - the very nature of the concept means it's never going to be watertight & you'll just give yourself a headache trying to work it out - Jeff Daniels' character acknowledges as much in a line that indirectly broke the 4th wall really.

    I do wonder if there's deleted scenes or more information on what kind of world Looper was set in: there seemed to be a lot of world-building happening in the background but never directly referenced; for all the future-tech featured, America seemed to be in a pretty bad shape.
    The city seemed to be pretty rundown & society appeared fairly harsh, and judging by the cars the oil must have run out. China seemed ok mind you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭googled eyes


    Looking forward to seeing this. Not sure about the makeup on Gorden-Levitt. Is it something you noticed for the whole film ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Looking forward to seeing this. Not sure about the makeup on Gorden-Levitt. Is it something you noticed for the whole film ?
    The make-up is distracting, sometimes. Most of the time it just passes you by, and to be fair Levitt's mannerisms and facial ticks are a perfect riff of Willis' so the make-up just embellishes the performance that little bit more...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Looking forward to seeing this. Not sure about the makeup on Gorden-Levitt. Is it something you noticed for the whole film ?

    Not so much in the beginning when there is a lot of dark scenes and he does his BW mimicking act brilliantly. Later on there's more daylight and you can see they went overboard with his eyebrows but by then you're more used to his new look.

    Very good movie all in all, I for one loved the pacing and that it turned out not to be just a general shootout. Emily Blunt as a
    former party animal was wildly unconvincing though, not only she's not up for it as an actress, her character was also presented as too clean cut.

    I'll be getting a DVD and I hope that if there were any cuts they'll add them as deleted scenes.
    What "splitting the guy open" scene is everyone talking about? I didn't notice anything - the kid just roared and we saw explosion from the outside? Did I miss something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    mhge wrote: »
    What "splitting the guy open" scene is everyone talking about? I didn't notice anything - the kid just roared and we saw explosion from the outside? Did I miss something?
    When the Jesse guy gets lifted up in the air his innards seem to be pulled out from inside him and then he seems to start to rip apart as such. It cuts away before it starts getting over the top though.

    Would have been easy enough to miss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    mhge wrote: »
    Not so much in the beginning when there is a lot of dark scenes and he does his BW mimicking act brilliantly. Later on there's more daylight and you can see they went overboard with his eyebrows but by then you're more used to his new look.

    Very good movie all in all, I for one loved the pacing and that it turned out not to be just a general shootout. Emily Blunt as a
    former party animal was wildly unconvincing though, not only she's not up for it as an actress, her character was also presented as too clean cut.

    I'll be getting a DVD and I hope that if there were any cuts they'll add them as deleted scenes.
    What "splitting the guy open" scene is everyone talking about? I didn't notice anything - the kid just roared and we saw explosion from the outside? Did I miss something?

    Its as
    Levitt and Blunt are flying out the door there's a wide shot where the kid is on the stairs and the other guy is levitating on the right, and he starts to burst open from the stomach in slo mo, you dont see him explode fully though


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