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pakalasa · 25-09-2012 09:26AM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Did anyone read the thread in AH about suicide, makes for some chilling reading I tell ya.

Really surprised to hear recently that Vets are 4 times more likely to commit suicide. I know farmers don't like to see them coming, with the cost incurred etc, but maybe we should remember the human side aswell.
http://www.independent.ie/health/health-news/suicide-rate-four-times-higher-for-vets-2243241.html

Muckit · 25-09-2012 10:04AM

Black Smoke wrote: »

Suppose hay would be better than straw, or would it?

They'I eat either if it's dry. They'I waste both if its wet.

wesleysniper38 · 25-09-2012 12:49PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Anything from €1270 to €2200:eek:
The two I fancied were €1710 and €1650.

sorry I'm a bit late picking up on this one... were they in calves or maiden heifers?
I see another sim sale is in Ballymote on October 6th.
Given the weather I cant see the crazy prices of last year being paid. I saw one in-calf commercial heifer (lovely textbook red/white sim) springing make 3850e........now thats just plain crazy!

wesleysniper38 · 25-09-2012 01:27PM

On another subject...
checked the dry heifers mornin last friday. One of them a red lim (550kg very fancy heifer) appeared to be springing. I bought her in april as a buller with the intention of Ai her in November.
Put her in and examined her. A slight swelling in 2 hind quarters, not hot to touch. Drew her but nothing came, she is fine and healthy but I feared Mastitis... so got antibiotic from vet and gave her 25mm for 3 days
. still no change/ no worse or no better. Getting the vet up tomorrow to check her over: whats the odds of mastitis or shes in calf..?

bbam · 25-09-2012 01:40PM

Black Smoke wrote: »

I weaned everything over a month ago now. Calves are in good grass with nice shelter. Throwing them meals morning and evening, and they are usually waiting for me, as they hear the gate opening.
This morning I had to root them out from under the bushes and march them to the trough, in driving cold rain.
Im thinking of putting in a bale of hay or straw to them this evening
Suppose hay would be better than straw, or would it?

Well for me I draw the line at feeding meal, once I start thinking they need more I house them. I don't have any good dry stands for hay/straw and bringing bales out to a feeder just does too much damage then they stand round the feeder ad it's very quickly torture for man and beast.
I'm thinking soon enough I'll let them in-out of the slatted shed with silage and meal at the barrier. At the moment I'm bedding a shed with straw for them to have access to, it's just another expense and a slatted shed empty!

pgodkin · 25-09-2012 04:22PM

just do it wrote: »

Welcome to the farming forum, you'll get plenty advice on here. I took back the family farm 4.5yrs ago and found this forum great. Ask as many questions regardless of how simple you think they are. Farmers like to talk/ type you know

Now can I just clarify this, you are offering free labour?! Watch out you don't end up spending 20hrs/week picking potatoes in North County Dublin for a jam sandwich and a cup of sugary tea:D

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Feck it..if he had posted a month ago he could have given me a hand bagging the turf...be a great educational experience

No Not free but very cheap apprentice

am thinking of renting a shed or two to keep some animal's but have to float this idea past the misses first!

Anyone on the dublin/meath/kildare border that would have a shed spare let me know!! the auld monkey's are working in the head! Have to say i miss the buzz of wheeling and dealing, working out costs on animals, the shear buzz of hitting targets where farming is concerning is worse than drugs!!

Kovu · 25-09-2012 05:03PM

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

sorry I'm a bit late picking up on this one... were they in calves or maiden heifers?
I see another sim sale is in Ballymote on October 6th.
Given the weather I cant see the crazy prices of last year being paid. I saw one in-calf commercial heifer (lovely textbook red/white sim) springing make 3850e........now thats just plain crazy!

All first calvers that were calving from Oct-late Feb/early March to LM and SIM bulls. I dunno, some of these breed sales have nutters that fall for animals and pay way over the odds for the animals. But it will be a bit cooler with the banks restricting cash flow.

Suckler · 25-09-2012 06:21PM

Just back from the Ploughin, West didn't get the same rain the east coast did anyway!

saranac1 · 25-09-2012 06:56PM

hi guys, im new to this farming thread but ive spent the last few hours reading back from january 2012 onwards and i have to say the information is brilliant. i have just 1 question, me and my father are trying to set up a suckler herd.in feb 2012 we bulled 15 heifers and so far 10 of them are in calf.with the bad weather out there we will have to house them soon, but what i need to know is what steps must i take now to have everything in place for calving in feb/march. the guy that did the scanning is great and offered to help us out if needed and im hoping to sell 300 round bales of hay in the next few weeks to make accomodation for these heifers.most of these heifers are 1 yr old Charolais and Limousin and are first time calvers with weights from 430kg to 520kg.thanks guys

saranac1 · 25-09-2012 06:59PM

sorry 17/18 month old charolais and limousin heifers

bbam · 25-09-2012 07:11PM

saranac1 wrote: »

hi guys, im new to this farming thread but ive spent the last few hours reading back from january 2012 onwards and i have to say the information is brilliant. i have just 1 question, me and my father are trying to set up a suckler herd.in feb 2012 we bulled 15 heifers and so far 10 of them are in calf.with the bad weather out there we will have to house them soon, but what i need to know is what steps must i take now to have everything in place for calving in feb/march. the guy that did the scanning is great and offered to help us out if needed and im hoping to sell 300 round bales of hay in the next few weeks to make accomodation for these heifers.most of these heifers are 1 yr old Charolais and Limousin and are first time calvers with weights from 430kg to 520kg.thanks guys

hi and welcome..
what are they in calf to?

saranac1 · 25-09-2012 07:19PM

they were bulled by a ch/lm bull (DOB 24/3/2010)

wesleysniper38 · 25-09-2012 08:28PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

All first calvers that were calving from Oct-late Feb/early March to LM and SIM bulls. I dunno, some of these breed sales have nutters that fall for animals and pay way over the odds for the animals. But it will be a bit cooler with the banks restricting cash flow.

Aye indeed and not a bit of harm. with normality comes predictability and from predictability grows security. All we need is a floor and a ceiling with a bit of headroom to keep the margins for us all..

Birdnuts · 25-09-2012 11:24PM

Suckler wrote: »

Just back from the Ploughin, West didn't get the same rain the east coast did anyway!

My father in law is down from Mayo tomorrow - what are the car parks like??

reilig · 26-09-2012 08:22AM

Suckler wrote: »

Just back from the Ploughin, West didn't get the same rain the east coast did anyway!

We had no rain in 24 hours in the NW. God knows we didn't need it. The midlands got enough yesterday though.

whelan1 · 26-09-2012 08:26AM

reilig wrote: »

We had no rain in 24 hours in the NW. God knows we didn't need it. The midlands got enough yesterday though.

we got rain all day monday and most of the day yesterday.... i am only powerwashing cubicle sheds now as cows where in during the summer...they wont be finished til the end of the week, so the cows will be out til then

snowman707 · 26-09-2012 08:54AM

we had torrential rain yesterday evening (mid west region)

now giving the cows access to silage after milking for an hour or so & while they arn't really eating that much they seem much more contented

Kovu · 26-09-2012 08:54AM

Just after sliding and landing on my a*se in the shed after a good dunt of a puck from a heifer:mad:

just do it · 26-09-2012 09:29AM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Just after sliding and landing on my a*se in the shed after a good dunt of a puck from a heifer:mad:

The joys of farming :rolleyes:

Conmaicne Mara · 26-09-2012 09:40AM

100,000 out of 130,000 farmers farm in disadvantaged areas according to Coveney on Pat Kenny's radio programme. I would not have thought the number that high.

alderdeer · 26-09-2012 10:00AM

Weather has gotten very cold in the last few days there's a real feel of winter now.
I put the weanlings in on Monday to give them bimectin cos a few had started coughing over the weekend and I had 1 with pneumonia yesterday and 2 today. let's hope that's it for now

bbam · 26-09-2012 10:20AM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

100,000 out of 130,000 farmers farm in disadvantaged areas according to Coveney on Pat Kenny's radio programme. I would not have thought the number that high.

I agree to an extent...
my question is disadvantaged compared to what?? Other irish farms or the best of European farms...

If its onlt internally to Ireland, then I cannot beleive there are only 30,000 farms on prime Irish land..

Look at the numbers of farms per county here, page 10...

http://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/releasespublications/documents/agriculture/2010/coapre2010.pdf

bbam · 26-09-2012 10:22AM

alderdeer wrote: »

Weather has gotten very cold in the last few days there's a real feel of winter now.
I put the weanlings in on Monday to give them bimectin cos a few had started coughing over the weekend and I had 1 with pneumonia yesterday and 2 today. let's hope that's it for now

Can't the sudden death of a heavy burden of lungworm bring on pneumonia.. chatting with the vet one day about stuff in general and she actualy recommended that if an animal is coughing alot then maybe an oral drench might be better as the kill is slower and easier for an animal to cope with..

reilig · 26-09-2012 10:44AM

bbam wrote: »

Can't the sudden death of a heavy burden of lungworm bring on pneumonia.. chatting with the vet one day about stuff in general and she actualy recommended that if an animal is coughing alot then maybe an oral drench might be better as the kill is slower and easier for an animal to cope with..

+1 Got similar advice from my vet recently.

bbam · 26-09-2012 11:05AM

Just registered our tank online..
I noticed that the registration needs to be done every 5 years??
Why, its not like it will be going anywhere..

So that's €50 every 5 years..

alderdeer · 26-09-2012 11:49AM

bbam wrote: »

Can't the sudden death of a heavy burden of lungworm bring on pneumonia.. chatting with the vet one day about stuff in general and she actualy recommended that if an animal is coughing alot then maybe an oral drench might be better as the kill is slower and easier for an animal to cope with..

I've heard something similar myself before but I thought I was pretty on top of it this year I've them dosed 2 times already so thought there shouldn't be any problems.
Just popped into vet there and he gave me a new injection their trying this year its Zactran has anyone used it yet. Its an antibiotic given under the skin and 1 shot is meant to sort them out. €€€€€€€ of course its an expensive one

Juniorhurler · 26-09-2012 01:54PM

alderdeer wrote: »

I've heard something similar myself before but I thought I was pretty on top of it this year I've them dosed 2 times already so thought there shouldn't be any problems.
Just popped into vet there and he gave me a new injection their trying this year its Zactran has anyone used it yet. Its an antibiotic given under the skin and 1 shot is meant to sort them out. €€€€€€€ of course its an expensive one

Gave it to an in calf heifer with pluracy day before yesterday. Vet told me if this doesn't work she will probably die from it. She is carrying a pedigree Belgian Blue embryo and is six months in calf. He tells me that it is fairly common this year. I wouldn't mind but she has been dosed every 6-8 weeks this summer. This lady has cost me massive money to get to this stage so I am p***** off now. The injection was €100 for 30cc. She had had a bottle of Nuflor before this at €70 a bottle and a bottle of pen & strep. Throw in the callout fees as well. Please nobody tell me that where you have livestock you'll have dead stock.

wesleysniper38 · 26-09-2012 03:59PM

saranac1 wrote: »

they were bulled by a ch/lm bull (DOB 24/3/2010)

I'm guessing he's a half bred bull? ch/lm..?

keep good notes from the scans re: due dates and/or dates you saw them bulled.
feed away then ad-lib silage/hay until they 6 mths in calf. dose for fluke/worms and treat for lice at housing.
invest in a calving jack and proper handling facilities for calving cow.

I suppose youre as well not to make any other big plans until they start to spring a bit..
what will you do with the other 5 ?

saranac1 · 26-09-2012 08:30PM

we have 15 heifers in total.all were bulled in feb 2012. only scanned them 9th august (stupidly not knowing i should have done it much earlier)and 10 were in calf @ 3/4 months.the other 5 are being bulled by 2 charlaois bulls now and will be scanned nov1st 2012. i intend to house these in calf heifers soon (weather depending) and i have hay,silage and haylage also. what dosing would you recommend ? the heifers were treated with blackjack( tarry stuff applied to their tits to prevent warble flies) back in august also....

Hay_man · 26-09-2012 09:01PM

I see the IFFPG is at it again :eek:

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/farmproduce/3408203

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