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Jack burton · 26-09-2012 11:00AM

I thought Michael Jackson owned most of their songs now? :P

Well it really is blatant isnt it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n4cs7Z7mDY

Retr0gamer · 26-09-2012 11:15AM

It's pretty much all because of this court case here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Upright_Music,_Ltd._v._Warner_Bros._Records_Inc.

Nintendo didn't clear any of the samples used.

Hip Tanaka was interviewed recently at 1up and was asked about Earthbound and he was really coy about talking about it and said Nintendo didn't want him to talk about it but said the music was what was holding back the western release of the game. It's a shame because he did something really original with his use of samples in game music, something that had never been done before. That court case pretty much put a stop to heavily sampled music genres like Hip Hop as well. I think Instead we got **** like Puff Daddy ripping off an 80's classic instead of real artists making something new out of samples.

He does create something different with his samples in earthbound so it's not a complete rip off and I consider it one of gaming's finest soundtracks. There's about 250 unique tracks in the game which is an incredible amount for a 16-bit game.

Andrew76 · 26-09-2012 11:21AM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well most games like that actually just ape the music from pop songs and they sound a bit different. The differrence between that and Earthbound is that it actually uses full recorded samples of the actual songs. If you remember the court cases over smapling in the 90's and how much of a dick the Beatles and their copyright holders can be about things like that then it's a whole different ball game or legal crap.

Bit harsh no? I'd hardly call it being a dick for wanting to protect your own work from lazy thieves trying to make money from it.

Retr0gamer · 26-09-2012 11:28AM

Andrew76 wrote: »

Bit harsh no? I'd hardly call it being a dick for wanting to protect your own work from lazy thieves trying to make money from it.

Well most artists if they learned of a near 20 year old videogame using samples of their songs would probably not care. The Beatles copyright holders would be the type to have their lawyer team on Defcon 3. Just look at the legal feud with Apple and how long that lasted.

RNB · 26-09-2012 11:36AM

Anyone have a clue as to what a Sega Multi Mega might be worth?

I've been on the lookout for awhile and only now have I come across a mint in-box example.

I just don't want to be paying over the odds!

Thanks folks.

the groutch · 26-09-2012 11:44AM

'bout tree fiddy

RNB · 26-09-2012 11:56AM

the groutch wrote: »

'bout tree fiddy

Cheers

CiDeRmAn · 26-09-2012 12:23PM

I've got one of those! Cool! Have it about 13 years.

Josey Wales · 26-09-2012 04:00PM

Apologies if it has already been mentioned in this thread but the 8-4 Play podcast had an excellent retrospective on the SNES. It is very long and spread over two episodes but is well worth listening to.

DinoRex · 26-09-2012 04:02PM

Usability patches for System Shock 2 and Thief 2:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/26/hooray-system-shock-2-thief-2-get-usability-patches/

Steve X2 · 26-09-2012 04:03PM

RNB wrote: »

Anyone have a clue as to what a Sega Multi Mega might be worth?

I've been on the lookout for awhile and only now have I come across a mint in-box example.

I just don't want to be paying over the odds!

Thanks folks.

I got my one a year or more back unboxed but in great condition for about 125 Euro I think.
Came with a travel case and some other bits.

Nerdkiller1991 · 26-09-2012 05:42PM

Don't let the video flag put you off. There's nothing actually offensive about the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2h3zeuQhg

Well young Elijah Wood of 3 years from now, is it still a baby's toy?

Thought so.

Apparently, the damn image won't show.

Retr0gamer · 26-09-2012 05:51PM

If anyone is playing PS1 games on the PS3 make sure you turn off the upscaler in the options. Was playing Gaia Seed and it was really dark and murky and the aspect ratio was all wrong. Turned the upscaler off in the options and it looks so much better, colours are bright and vibrant as opposed to barely visible and the aspect ratio seemed correct.

o1s1n · 26-09-2012 06:10PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Mitsuda and Uematsu are massive Prog rock fans and a lot of their stuff is influenced, some more so than others, by bands like Pink Floyd, Yes and Rush.

Any idea of specific Rush examples? I've been a massive fan for about 20 years and hearing some of their music in a game would be insane

Retr0gamer · 26-09-2012 06:16PM

Jeremy Parish did a big piece on it before on 1up but can't find anything. I don't think he necessarily stole music from any of the prog rock bands but he's definitely heavily influenced, he's said so himself. Sure listen to dancing mad, a 18 minute song on in a SNES games, nothing says self indulgent prog rock more than that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbXVNKtmWnc

Nerdkiller1991 · 26-09-2012 08:21PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzIZftWt_NI

The Last Bandit · 26-09-2012 09:55PM

Krikzz has turned his attention to the NES at last. Famicom version to be released first

https://mobile.twitter.com/krikzz/status/250180233209204736?photo=1#!/krikzz/status/250180233209204736?photo=1

o1s1n · 27-09-2012 12:14AM

Any of you guys ever see this? It's a Chinese NES clone but it's designed to look like the Neptune. Mental! Be great to get your hands on one for a Neptune project

Steve X2 · 27-09-2012 12:18AM

o1s1n wrote: »

Any of you guys ever see this? It's a Chinese NES clone but it's designed to look like the Neptune. Mental! Be great to get your hands on one for a Neptune project

Yeah I've seem them online while researching this Neptune case project and a few others thought the same as you.
Someone ordered one but unfortunately its actually very small.

Steve X2 · 27-09-2012 02:48AM

Pretty sweet little N64 mod here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5IUismTxx0

Nerdkiller1991 · 27-09-2012 03:14AM

Steve SI wrote: »

Yeah I've seem them online while researching this Neptune case project and a few others thought the same as you.
Someone ordered one but unfortunately its actually very small.

I always figured someone would take the lazy route of case making, by only making a mold of the Neptune that would fit with the bottom half of a Model 2 Mega Drive, since it has a similar footprint...but then I saw this in the DIY Neptune thread.

http://www.porlzilla.com/2012/04/quick-neptune-case-update.html

2012-04-15+21.03.56.jpg

Myrddin · 27-09-2012 02:11PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

If anyone is playing PS1 games on the PS3 your doing it wrong

Agreed

Retr0gamer · 28-09-2012 01:35PM

Gave Double Dragon Neon a go last night. It's actually really good with very deep combat that's a big two fingered salute to simplistic ****e like Castle Crashers. Crappy backgrounds though

Tell you what, ****ing great 80's style soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YySGy_4Wag

o1s1n · 28-09-2012 02:14PM

First time I saw a video for that game i immediately thought 'wtf is this ****' but after a while it really grew on me.

Still have yet to play it though!

Retr0gamer · 28-09-2012 02:19PM

Well the lack of animation on the backgrounds let it down a bit but Wayforward nailed the gameplay.

Steve X2 · 28-09-2012 02:25PM

Not retro or anything but just noticed this on the latest version of iOS.

It's a bit worrying on the security side when you link your Facebook account to your contacts on iOS 6. Any phone numbers you have in your contacts will update with Facebook profile pics, email addresses, full names and whatever else the person has on Facebook.
That's all fine for people who you're Facebook friends with but it even does it for any number you happen to have saved on your phone!!

Well Dodgy so it is.

CiDeRmAn · 28-09-2012 02:31PM

Something for the artists out there....

Nyan Cat Vs Van Gogh!

DinoRex · 28-09-2012 02:33PM

Steve SI wrote: »

Not retro or anything but just noticed this on the latest version of iOS.

It's a bit worrying on the security side when you link your Facebook account to your contacts on iOS 6. Any phone numbers you have in your contacts will update with Facebook profile pics, email addresses, full names and whatever else the person has on Facebook.
That's all fine for people who you're Facebook friends with but it even does it for any number you happen to have saved on your phone!!

Well Dodgy so it is.

The Facebook app has done that for years by itself. It didn't work either. I ended up with a bunch of South American people in my phone book.

Steve X2 · 28-09-2012 02:36PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Something for the artists out there....

Nyan Cat Vs Van Gogh!

Cool, I'll ask my girlfriend if she's up to doing a copy of it on canvas.
I think that would look nice on my man cave wall

Although she's changing from acrylics to oils this weekend after much consideration and Bob Rossification so it might not be the best time to task her with it.

I asked her to do a painting on my Egret 3 before but she reckons its very boring subject matter

Steve X2 · 28-09-2012 02:38PM

DinoRex wrote: »

The Facebook app has done that for years by itself. It didn't work either. I ended up with a bunch of South American people in my phone book.

It never did it for me, was it an option or something?
Now that Facebook is deeply integrated into the OS I see many security concerns over the next while. It is handy to be able to post from the notification centre but I've disabled all the other fancy integrated stuff.

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