If rejoining the UK meant jobs and an end to austerity, would you?

Mansized Wreath · 24-09-2012 09:31PM

NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble

Yes

golden lane · 24-09-2012 09:31PM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

She's surrounded by them though. They're called 'monarchists' and they buy into the idea that it's okay that people are born into perverse privilege.

We have enough of our own little quasi-dynasties here never mind becoming subjects of the world's most ridiculous one.

you don't think the english people should have a free choice then....

haulagebasher · 24-09-2012 09:34PM

NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

Is this a troll or a thread designed to provoke ?? You should add a "Rejoin the Commonwealth" Poll Option. I'd vouch for that.

No.
I asked a fair enough question and appear to be getting, so far at least, fair enough responses.
I know it may not be everyone's cup of tea but I still feel it is a valid discussion, evidenced by a decent amount of posters who would entertain the eventuality.

A join the commonwealth option might have been an OK addition in some cases but I think for the question in hand, a straightforward yes/no would be a better ask.

Look the cut and thrust of the OP was serious in nature, but being purely hypothetical I felt it belonged in AH rather than politics. And then being in politics a touch of hyperbole expressed in some posts is something that is more or less expected.
A few of the longer posts which I thanked were fairly insightful and an interesting read.

ehmjay · 24-09-2012 09:36PM

I know the op is a hypothetical question and is never going to happen but it does put into perspective the likelihood of a United Ireland ever happening, at least in our life-times.

Rigol · 24-09-2012 09:39PM

haulagebasher wrote: »

Yes I do live in the Republic.

What do you suggest?

I suggest you may be better off living in the UK.
Might be best for all of us.

el dude · 24-09-2012 09:39PM

Benny_Cake wrote: »

You've started threads today calling for workhouses, unionist parties, and now joining the UK... I think you were born in the wrong century OP!

Or he/she is a terrible troll.

Sound of Silence · 24-09-2012 09:40PM

haulagebasher wrote: »

No.
I asked a fair enough question and appear to be getting, so far at least, fair enough responses.
I know it may not be everyone's cup of tea but I still feel it is a valid discussion, evidenced by a decent amount of posters who would entertain the eventuality.

A join the commonwealth option might have been an OK addition in some cases but I think for the question in hand, a straightforward yes/no would be a better ask.

Look the cut and thrust of the OP was serious in nature, but being purely hypothetical I felt it belonged in AH rather than politics. And then being in politics a touch of hyperbole expressed in some posts is something that is more or less expected.
A few of the longer posts which I thanked were fairly insightful and an interesting read.

There's a reason why your argument is purely hypothetical, because you're unable to provide a single valid reason as to why Ireland should relinquish the remaining vestiges of it's sovereignty to reunify with the UK.

You've chosen to explore the world of conjecture and what if's in order to fend off any reasonable discussion.

CB19Kevo · 24-09-2012 09:42PM

NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble

No.
We have major issues in this country but i don't think a return to the Queen would be in our benefit.
I think overall Government and service's are run far better in the UK and would like to see increased co-operation and links.

The current bunch need to be burnt out of the Dail and a complete restructuring of all service's and legislation needs to be undertaken.
This country could be good in the future but not without MAJOR change..

Rigol · 24-09-2012 09:42PM

haulagebasher wrote: »

No.
I asked a fair enough question

The options were basically 1. Yes. or 2. No, because I'm a knuckledragger.
Thats not very fair.

Fuinseog · 24-09-2012 09:43PM

NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble

i went into two Dublin pubs yesterday in RIRA territory. i wanted to watch the all ireland and the barman was not aware that it was on. four screens in the pub and all of them tuned into liverpool and manchester but if you mentioned joining the UK to those people they would bait you.

haulagebasher · 24-09-2012 09:44PM

NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble

Sound of Silence wrote: »

There's a reason why your argument is purely hypothetical, because you're unable to provide a single valid reason as to why Ireland should relinquish the remaining vestiges of it's sovereignty to reunify with the UK.

You've chosen to explore the world of conjecture and what if's in order to fend off any reasonable discussion.

I could provide plenty of valid reasons but atm i am busy, the building is closing and I am too damn tired to do so. I might do it later on in the week when I have the energy for it.

Seanchai · 24-09-2012 09:44PM

OU812 wrote: »

Hell yeah. We've demonstrated our politicians are self serving & untrustworthy & that we're not capable of taking care of ourselves, so why not avail of the benefits it would bring us.

Which makes them so inferior to all those noble right honourable members of the institutionally sectarian British state's parliament which:

1. Commit fraud on their expenses to an incredibly piss-taking degree. Otherwise known as United Kingdom Parliamentary expenses scandal

2. Buy, sell and promise knighthoods and other relics of medieval English feudalism in exchange for donations to political parties and politicians private wealth. Otherwise known as Cash for Honours

3. Be involved in selling arms to nefarious regimes across the world and speak about how with "the simple sword of truth" they will be shown to be honest, but are shown to be corrupt, deeply corrupt. That would be this chap.

4. Get paid for lobbying for influence on behalf of rich people, without declaring such payments. Otherwise known as Cash for Influence

5. Not forgetting "Cash for questions". The problem is which scandal to choose. How about this.

And that's just five. Actually, here are much more. So please do explain how in your fantasy world British parliamentarians are somehow less corrupt that Irish parliamentarians?

ronan001 · 24-09-2012 09:46PM

1. Why would they want the Republic of Ireland plus our large debt. They don't even want Northern Ireland and its high cost to the British exchequer.

2. No matter who is in charge in the Republic, we need to reduce our public expenditure. If we can do this, it means public servants out on strike for a few years and reducing the public services available.

3. A british polictician would not achieve this faster than our own politicians in fact there would be far greater resistance to a British politician.

So it is a definite NO from me. It would not make any financial or political sense.

haulagebasher wrote: »

Firstly, I know the UK has it's own real bugetary difficulties but this is a purely hypothetically, IF.....thread

So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK (while retaining a national parliment) would result in good jobs with good availibility and an end to austerity and cuts, woudl you be up for it?

Or would you be one of the "rather die on my feet..........." rabbler brigade like was on Niall Boylan @night a few weeks ago.

Fuinseog · 24-09-2012 09:47PM

NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble

if we rejoined the UK we could send all the scumbags to the army who would send them overseas as cannon fodder.

we might more competent and less corrupt politicians.

we might have better social services

My name is URL · 24-09-2012 09:48PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

i went into two Dublin pubs yesterday in RIRA territory. i wanted to watch the all ireland and the barman was not aware that it was on. four screens in the pub and all of them tuned into liverpool and manchester but if you mentioned joining the UK to those people they would bait you.

Well if they prefer watching one sport over another then they must want to rejoin the UK. It's the only logical conclusion like

wp_rathead · 24-09-2012 09:48PM

Get screwed by Irish politicians or get screwed by British politicians?

Cake Death or Death?

Sound of Silence · 24-09-2012 09:48PM

haulagebasher wrote: »

I could provide plenty of valid reasons but atm i am busy, the building is closing and I am too damn tired to do so. I might do it later on in the week when I have the energy for it.

That's convenient.

In two threads you weren't able to provide any valid reasons for reunification.

I won't hold my breath.

ronan001 · 24-09-2012 09:50PM

1. Why would they want the Republic of Ireland plus our large debt. They don't even want Northern Ireland and its high cost to the British exchequer.

2. No matter who is in charge in the Republic, we need to reduce our public expenditure. If we can do this, it means public servants out on strike for a few years and reducing the public services available.

3. A british polictician would not achieve this faster than our own politicians in fact there would be far greater resistance to a British politician.

So it is a definite NO from me. It would not make any financial or political sense.

My hypothetical question to the OP....

If it made financial sense for the UK to submit to being part of a joint Republic, would you?

haulagebasher wrote: »

Firstly, I know the UK has it's own real bugetary difficulties but this is a purely hypothetically, IF.....thread

So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK (while retaining a national parliment) would result in good jobs with good availibility and an end to austerity and cuts, woudl you be up for it?

Or would you be one of the "rather die on my feet..........." rabbler brigade like was on Niall Boylan @night a few weeks ago.

Benny_Cake · 24-09-2012 09:51PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

if we rejoined the UK we could send all the scumbags to the army who would send them overseas as cannon fodder.

Given the British Army is all-professional (no conscription), how would this work exactly?

ilovesleep · 24-09-2012 09:52PM

I'd only join if we can get rid of our greedy, leeching, parasitic government.

Seanchai · 24-09-2012 09:52PM

hmmm wrote: »

We should never have left the UK. Being part of a much larger union gave us the opportunity to be part of a truly great country.

Yes, which is why you should give up this Little England idea of yours over there and bow to your German and French overlords who control the European Union, the only world power in Europe. Your Empire is finished, despite the carping posts of a few neanderthals on Boards.ie who want to resurrect that jingoistic pipedream of what Fratton Fred likes to call the "British Isles".

Long live the EU, the protector of Irish freedom from a return to British imperialist subjugation.

Duckworth_Luas · 24-09-2012 09:52PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

i went into two Dublin pubs yesterday in RIRA territory. i wanted to watch the all ireland and the barman was not aware that it was on. four screens in the pub and all of them tuned into liverpool and manchester but if you mentioned joining the UK to those people they would bait you.

Since when did Dublin have an IRA territory, and since when have people been surprised that Dubliners like soccer?

ronan001 · 24-09-2012 09:53PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

i went into two Dublin pubs yesterday in RIRA territory. i wanted to watch the all ireland and the barman was not aware that it was on. four screens in the pub and all of them tuned into liverpool and manchester but if you mentioned joining the UK to those people they would bait you.

the liverpool v man utd match was over before the All-Ireland final started....... are you telling us lies?

previous user · 24-09-2012 09:53PM

NEIN!

Solair · 24-09-2012 09:53PM

OU812 wrote: »

Hell yeah. We've demonstrated our politicians are self serving & untrustworthy.....

You've never met the Tory Party then?

They're sort of like Fianna Fail, just ridiculously posh and privileged and obsessed with what class you're from.

Fuinseog · 24-09-2012 09:53PM

NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble

Benny_Cake wrote: »

Given the British Army is all-professional (no conscription), how would this work exactly?

offer them free dutch gold and nike trainers.

My name is URL · 24-09-2012 09:54PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Since when did Dublin have an IRA territory, and since when have people been surprised that Dubliners like soccer?

It's right next to the Triad zone

ehmjay · 24-09-2012 09:55PM

ronan001 wrote: »

the liverpool v man utd match was over before the All-Ireland final started....... are you telling us lies?

It was on while the Dublin minors was on :pac:

Fuinseog · 24-09-2012 09:56PM

NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble

ronan001 wrote: »

the liverpool v man utd match was over before the All-Ireland final started....... are you telling us lies?

true, but they informed me another one would be starting at 4. salt de earth Dublin types more interested in English soccer rather than an Irish game played only a few miles away.

My name is URL · 24-09-2012 09:57PM

Which pub was this?

If rejoining the UK meant jobs and an end to austerity, would you?

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