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If rejoining the UK meant jobs and an end to austerity, would you?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Mansized Wreath


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    She's surrounded by them though. They're called 'monarchists' and they buy into the idea that it's okay that people are born into perverse privilege.

    We have enough of our own little quasi-dynasties here never mind becoming subjects of the world's most ridiculous one.

    you don't think the english people should have a free choice then....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    Is this a troll or a thread designed to provoke ?? You should add a "Rejoin the Commonwealth" Poll Option. I'd vouch for that.

    No.
    I asked a fair enough question and appear to be getting, so far at least, fair enough responses.
    I know it may not be everyone's cup of tea but I still feel it is a valid discussion, evidenced by a decent amount of posters who would entertain the eventuality.

    A join the commonwealth option might have been an OK addition in some cases but I think for the question in hand, a straightforward yes/no would be a better ask.

    Look the cut and thrust of the OP was serious in nature, but being purely hypothetical I felt it belonged in AH rather than politics. And then being in politics a touch of hyperbole expressed in some posts is something that is more or less expected.
    A few of the longer posts which I thanked were fairly insightful and an interesting read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ehmjay


    I know the op is a hypothetical question and is never going to happen but it does put into perspective the likelihood of a United Ireland ever happening, at least in our life-times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Rigol


    Yes I do live in the Republic.

    What do you suggest?

    I suggest you may be better off living in the UK.
    Might be best for all of us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭el dude


    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    You've started threads today calling for workhouses, unionist parties, and now joining the UK... I think you were born in the wrong century OP!


    Or he/she is a terrible troll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    No.
    I asked a fair enough question and appear to be getting, so far at least, fair enough responses.
    I know it may not be everyone's cup of tea but I still feel it is a valid discussion, evidenced by a decent amount of posters who would entertain the eventuality.

    A join the commonwealth option might have been an OK addition in some cases but I think for the question in hand, a straightforward yes/no would be a better ask.

    Look the cut and thrust of the OP was serious in nature, but being purely hypothetical I felt it belonged in AH rather than politics. And then being in politics a touch of hyperbole expressed in some posts is something that is more or less expected.
    A few of the longer posts which I thanked were fairly insightful and an interesting read.

    There's a reason why your argument is purely hypothetical, because you're unable to provide a single valid reason as to why Ireland should relinquish the remaining vestiges of it's sovereignty to reunify with the UK.

    You've chosen to explore the world of conjecture and what if's in order to fend off any reasonable discussion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭CB19Kevo


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    No.
    We have major issues in this country but i don't think a return to the Queen would be in our benefit.
    I think overall Government and service's are run far better in the UK and would like to see increased co-operation and links.

    The current bunch need to be burnt out of the Dail and a complete restructuring of all service's and legislation needs to be undertaken.
    This country could be good in the future but not without MAJOR change..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Rigol


    No.
    I asked a fair enough question

    The options were basically 1. Yes. or 2. No, because I'm a knuckledragger.
    Thats not very fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    i went into two Dublin pubs yesterday in RIRA territory. i wanted to watch the all ireland and the barman was not aware that it was on. four screens in the pub and all of them tuned into liverpool and manchester but if you mentioned joining the UK to those people they would bait you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    There's a reason why your argument is purely hypothetical, because you're unable to provide a single valid reason as to why Ireland should relinquish the remaining vestiges of it's sovereignty to reunify with the UK.

    You've chosen to explore the world of conjecture and what if's in order to fend off any reasonable discussion.

    I could provide plenty of valid reasons but atm i am busy, the building is closing and I am too damn tired to do so. I might do it later on in the week when I have the energy for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    OU812 wrote: »
    Hell yeah. We've demonstrated our politicians are self serving & untrustworthy & that we're not capable of taking care of ourselves, so why not avail of the benefits it would bring us.

    Which makes them so inferior to all those noble right honourable members of the institutionally sectarian British state's parliament which:

    1. Commit fraud on their expenses to an incredibly piss-taking degree. Otherwise known as United Kingdom Parliamentary expenses scandal

    2. Buy, sell and promise knighthoods and other relics of medieval English feudalism in exchange for donations to political parties and politicians private wealth. Otherwise known as Cash for Honours

    3. Be involved in selling arms to nefarious regimes across the world and speak about how with "the simple sword of truth" they will be shown to be honest, but are shown to be corrupt, deeply corrupt. That would be this chap.

    4. Get paid for lobbying for influence on behalf of rich people, without declaring such payments. Otherwise known as Cash for Influence

    5. Not forgetting "Cash for questions". The problem is which scandal to choose. How about this.

    And that's just five. Actually, here are much more. So please do explain how in your fantasy world British parliamentarians are somehow less corrupt that Irish parliamentarians?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭ronan001


    1. Why would they want the Republic of Ireland plus our large debt. They don't even want Northern Ireland and its high cost to the British exchequer.


    2. No matter who is in charge in the Republic, we need to reduce our public expenditure. If we can do this, it means public servants out on strike for a few years and reducing the public services available.

    3. A british polictician would not achieve this faster than our own politicians in fact there would be far greater resistance to a British politician.

    So it is a definite NO from me. It would not make any financial or political sense.


    Firstly, I know the UK has it's own real bugetary difficulties but this is a purely hypothetically, IF.....thread

    So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK (while retaining a national parliment) would result in good jobs with good availibility and an end to austerity and cuts, woudl you be up for it?

    Or would you be one of the "rather die on my feet..........." rabbler brigade like was on Niall Boylan @night a few weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    if we rejoined the UK we could send all the scumbags to the army who would send them overseas as cannon fodder.


    we might more competent and less corrupt politicians.

    we might have better social services


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    i went into two Dublin pubs yesterday in RIRA territory. i wanted to watch the all ireland and the barman was not aware that it was on. four screens in the pub and all of them tuned into liverpool and manchester but if you mentioned joining the UK to those people they would bait you.

    Well if they prefer watching one sport over another then they must want to rejoin the UK. It's the only logical conclusion like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,114 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Get screwed by Irish politicians or get screwed by British politicians?

    Cake Death or Death?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    I could provide plenty of valid reasons but atm i am busy, the building is closing and I am too damn tired to do so. I might do it later on in the week when I have the energy for it.

    That's convenient.

    In two threads you weren't able to provide any valid reasons for reunification.

    I won't hold my breath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭ronan001


    1. Why would they want the Republic of Ireland plus our large debt. They don't even want Northern Ireland and its high cost to the British exchequer.


    2. No matter who is in charge in the Republic, we need to reduce our public expenditure. If we can do this, it means public servants out on strike for a few years and reducing the public services available.

    3. A british polictician would not achieve this faster than our own politicians in fact there would be far greater resistance to a British politician.

    So it is a definite NO from me. It would not make any financial or political sense.


    My hypothetical question to the OP....

    If it made financial sense for the UK to submit to being part of a joint Republic, would you?




    Firstly, I know the UK has it's own real bugetary difficulties but this is a purely hypothetically, IF.....thread

    So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK (while retaining a national parliment) would result in good jobs with good availibility and an end to austerity and cuts, woudl you be up for it?

    Or would you be one of the "rather die on my feet..........." rabbler brigade like was on Niall Boylan @night a few weeks ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    if we rejoined the UK we could send all the scumbags to the army who would send them overseas as cannon fodder.

    Given the British Army is all-professional (no conscription), how would this work exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    I'd only join if we can get rid of our greedy, leeching, parasitic government.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    hmmm wrote: »
    We should never have left the UK. Being part of a much larger union gave us the opportunity to be part of a truly great country.

    Yes, which is why you should give up this Little England idea of yours over there and bow to your German and French overlords who control the European Union, the only world power in Europe. Your Empire is finished, despite the carping posts of a few neanderthals on Boards.ie who want to resurrect that jingoistic pipedream of what Fratton Fred likes to call the "British Isles".

    Long live the EU, the protector of Irish freedom from a return to British imperialist subjugation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    i went into two Dublin pubs yesterday in RIRA territory. i wanted to watch the all ireland and the barman was not aware that it was on. four screens in the pub and all of them tuned into liverpool and manchester but if you mentioned joining the UK to those people they would bait you.
    Since when did Dublin have an IRA territory, and since when have people been surprised that Dubliners like soccer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭ronan001


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    i went into two Dublin pubs yesterday in RIRA territory. i wanted to watch the all ireland and the barman was not aware that it was on. four screens in the pub and all of them tuned into liverpool and manchester but if you mentioned joining the UK to those people they would bait you.

    the liverpool v man utd match was over before the All-Ireland final started....... are you telling us lies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭previous user


    NEIN!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭Solair


    OU812 wrote: »
    Hell yeah. We've demonstrated our politicians are self serving & untrustworthy.....

    You've never met the Tory Party then?

    They're sort of like Fianna Fail, just ridiculously posh and privileged and obsessed with what class you're from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    Given the British Army is all-professional (no conscription), how would this work exactly?

    offer them free dutch gold and nike trainers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Since when did Dublin have an IRA territory, and since when have people been surprised that Dubliners like soccer?

    It's right next to the Triad zone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ehmjay


    ronan001 wrote: »
    the liverpool v man utd match was over before the All-Ireland final started....... are you telling us lies?
    It was on while the Dublin minors was on :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    ronan001 wrote: »
    the liverpool v man utd match was over before the All-Ireland final started....... are you telling us lies?

    true, but they informed me another one would be starting at 4. salt de earth Dublin types more interested in English soccer rather than an Irish game played only a few miles away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Which pub was this?


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