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HAARP-Chemtrails WMD: Exposing a Spiritual, Mass Mind-Control & Planetary Assault wit

  • 27-08-2012 12:23AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭


    HAARP-Chemtrails WMD: Exposing a Spiritual, Mass Mind-Control & Planetary Assault with Alfred Webre


    Anyone any proof this conspiracy is happening or not ~?




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    HAARP-Chemtrails WMD: Exposing a Spiritual, Mass Mind-Control & Planetary Assault with Alfred Webre


    Anyone any proof this conspiracy is happening or not ~?


    Of course not. Practically impossible to prove that something isn't happening.
    Here's one for you.... Is the 'aluminium millinery' industry really behind most of these theories? That would make as much sense...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭nuub


    You can put as much stock in it as you want there is proof for and against.
    I personally believe "something" is going on but here is a couple of links that when watched in full IMO are a good quick over view of the scheme of things.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaT2G4fMT4o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s&feature=related


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    nuub wrote: »
    You can put as much stock in it as you want there is proof for and against.
    I personally believe "something" is going on but here is a couple of links that when watched in full IMO are a good quick over view of the scheme of things.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaT2G4fMT4o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s&feature=related
    How can there be proof both for and against anything? In this case there's barely even anything which could be interpreted as evidence...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭nuub


    @endacl

    My mistake using the word proof, "theories" would have been more appropriate as it stands because there can be "theories" and/or "proof" for either side i.e global warming, vaccines, dairy products , presidents, holistic treatments, UFO's, Religion .

    I was using my phone at the time and just wanted to make the point that something is going on but like everything you can find arguments for or against almost anything .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 surya


    Chemtrails are back. Dublin was sprayed last Tuesday 28 August from 5 pm in the evening onwards. Those funny darkened clouds appeared about an hour afterwards. Today Friday 31 August we were sprayed again from sunrise. The trails had changed the sky by 8 am, again into those misty darkened clouds. Out by the Airport the shadows of the dropping particulates were visible funneling down against the backdrop of a rising sun. Are we to look forward to another bout of respiratory problems and mysterious dry coughs in the coming weeks?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    surya wrote: »
    Are we to look forward to another bout of respiratory problems and mysterious dry coughs in the coming weeks?
    I'd imagine so, but *RATIONALITY ALERT* maybe that could have something to do with a change in the weather, combined with every kid in the country aged 4-18 going back to school, where they will spend up to 8 hours a day cooped up in small and often air- conditioned rooms, sharing every little bug they have between them. To say nothing of the sardine tins the dart, luas and buses will become either side of the school day. And they bring those bugs on home at the end of the day.

    This is not a conspiracy. It's just modern life.

    Myth busted.

    Next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭francois


    surya wrote: »
    Chemtrails are back. Dublin was sprayed last Tuesday 28 August from 5 pm in the evening onwards. Those funny darkened clouds appeared about an hour afterwards. Today Friday 31 August we were sprayed again from sunrise. The trails had changed the sky by 8 am, again into those misty darkened clouds. Out by the Airport the shadows of the dropping particulates were visible funneling down against the backdrop of a rising sun. Are we to look forward to another bout of respiratory problems and mysterious dry coughs in the coming weeks?


    I'd like to hear air traffic control's report of this-you can't simply fly around an airport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    francois wrote: »
    I'd like to hear air traffic control's report of this-you can't simply fly around an airport
    Of course you can. You just need a tinfoil plane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭francois


    Also you may have seen the plane spotters on the old airport road, they would have reported something-There are also the various groups who watch for rendition aircraft ( such as the ploughshares group who actually have evidence of CIA planes). I think they may just have noticed something. So this CT holds no water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    francois wrote: »
    Also you may have seen the plane spotters on the old airport road, they would have reported something-There are also the various groups who watch for rendition aircraft ( such as the ploughshares group who actually have evidence of CIA planes). I think they may just have noticed something. So this CT holds no water
    Double-busted. Is this a first?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    endacl wrote: »
    francois wrote: »
    Also you may have seen the plane spotters on the old airport road, they would have reported something-There are also the various groups who watch for rendition aircraft ( such as the ploughshares group who actually have evidence of CIA planes). I think they may just have noticed something. So this CT holds no water
    Double-busted. Is this a first?
    Occam's Razor does allow for the 'just is not happening' scenario, doesn't it...?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    endacl wrote: »
    ..., but *RATIONALITY ALERT* ...

    :pac:
    Who says "rationality alert"? I blame **** US sitcoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭nuub


    What is the deal I thought this was a conspiracy theory thread not a myth busters make myself feel good thread. Its a bit of fun for ppl with an interest.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    nuub wrote: »
    What is the deal I thought this was a conspiracy theory thread not a myth busters make myself feel good thread. Its a bit of fun for ppl with an interest.:D
    Could have been. Should have been? Delusional paranoid haven though it has become. Confrontations are unavoidable. Unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭nuub


    endacl wrote: »
    Could have been. Should have been? Delusional paranoid haven though it has become. Confrontations are unavoidable. Unfortunately.

    Yeah I can see on some threads there is a bit of overkill in as far as taken facts at face value and not challenging them. But it seem to me that no matter what anybody posts in this Forum people instantly try to dismiss it.

    I mean I would not got to a christian Forum and start dismissing stuff left right and center because there Forum is a place where people of that ilk can get together and discuss there views.

    What brought You to this Forum/Thread ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    nuub wrote: »
    endacl wrote: »
    Could have been. Should have been? Delusional paranoid haven though it has become. Confrontations are unavoidable. Unfortunately.

    Yeah I can see on some threads there is a bit of overkill in as far as taken facts at face value and not challenging them. But it seem to me that no matter what anybody posts in this Forum people instantly try to dismiss it.

    I mean I would not got to a christian Forum and start dismissing stuff left right and center because there Forum is a place where people of that ilk can get together and discuss there views.

    What brought You to this Forum/Thread ?
    The Christian forum is actually quite receptive, in the main, to open discussion/questioning, even banter. For the most part.

    CT had become a club. A particularly cliquey one unfortunately. It's an open forum. Once the party line is toed. Unfortunately.

    One must belong to a particular breed of 'sheeple' to be allowed participate. Which leads to the question I suppose: is CT for the discussion of theories, or is it a club for those who are so sure of their delusion that every challenge is interpreted as a personal attack? I'll discuss where people are open to it. If they get arsey.... well sometimes I can't help meself. They do make it easy.

    Thanks for asking.

    Sincerely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 surya


    http://www.infowars.com/russia-attacks-clouds-to-clear-sky-for-city-day-celebration

    some interesting stuff in the above link for fellow conspiracy followers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    surya wrote: »
    http://www.infowars.com/russia-attacks-clouds-to-clear-sky-for-city-day-celebration

    some interesting stuff in the above link for fellow conspiracy followers

    Seeding clouds has been going on for decades
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 surya


    http://www.infowars.com/global-chemtrail-bombardment-user-photos-and-video/

    Is this a proven technology? Can we buy into it (maybe not now with Troika pressure) to create a good summer? Maybe strontium and barium oxides are good for our health?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    surya wrote: »
    http://www.infowars.com/global-chemtrail-bombardment-user-photos-and-video/

    Is this a proven technology? Can we buy into it (maybe not now with Troika pressure) to create a good summer? Maybe strontium and barium oxides are good for our health?

    This is the science of it. Knowledge.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 surya


    1. Chemtrails, as opposed to contrails, take three or more hours to dissipate. Regular contrails disappear in about 20 minutes.

    2. Chemtrails tend to look flat.

    3. Another feature different from ordinary contrails is that mature chemtrails display a vertical curtain of fall-off.

    4. Intense chemtrail spraying is done in tic-tac-toe, "X" and grids patterns.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    surya wrote: »
    1. Chemtrails, as opposed to contrails, take three or more hours to dissipate. Regular contrails disappear in about 20 minutes.

    2. Chemtrails tend to look flat.

    3. Another feature different from ordinary contrails is that mature chemtrails display a vertical curtain of fall-off.

    4. Intense chemtrail spraying is done in tic-tac-toe, "X" and grids patterns.
    So how do you know the ones that show these things are chemtrails?
    How do you know that contrails cannot also have these features, depending on different conditions?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    surya wrote: »
    1. Chemtrails, as opposed to contrails, take three or more hours to dissipate. Regular contrails disappear in about 20 minutes.

    2. Chemtrails tend to look flat.

    3. Another feature different from ordinary contrails is that mature chemtrails display a vertical curtain of fall-off.

    4. Intense chemtrail spraying is done in tic-tac-toe, "X" and grids patterns.
    Also, where are these 'chemtrails' coming from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    surya wrote: »
    1. Chemtrails, as opposed to contrails, take three or more hours to dissipate. Regular contrails disappear in about 20 minutes.

    2. Chemtrails tend to look flat.

    3. Another feature different from ordinary contrails is that mature chemtrails display a vertical curtain of fall-off.

    4. Intense chemtrail spraying is done in tic-tac-toe, "X" and grids patterns.

    If this is the case then -

    1. What are they spraying exactly? which chemicals?

    2. How long have they been spraying for?

    3. How many governments are complicit in this? I have been in many countries and seen lingering contrails, especially on clear sunny days.

    4. If you can name the chemicals, how are these chemicals specifically affecting the population?

    5. Do these chemicals affect everyone? or are some people, who just happen to be conspiracy theorists, immune to the effect?

    sorry last question is a bit tongue in cheek, but would like to know the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 surya


    http://www.infowars.com/information-for-chemtrail-skeptics/

    good bit of info here if you want to take it at face value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    surya wrote: »
    http://www.infowars.com/information-for-chemtrail-skeptics/

    good bit of info here if you want to take it at face value.
    No worthwhile evidence at all there.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    surya wrote: »
    http://www.infowars.com/information-for-chemtrail-skeptics/

    good bit of info here if you want to take it at face value.

    That link claims that chemtrails contain a long list of chemicals, but does not explain how they could possibly know this.
    Nor does it answer any of the previous questions we've asked.
    Could you please address them instead of posting to other people's work that offers no information at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    surya wrote: »
    1. Chemtrails, as opposed to contrails, take three or more hours to dissipate. Regular contrails disappear in about 20 minutes

    You see this bit is just total nonsense but is repeatedly trotted out as "proof" that chemtrails exist.

    First things first, ChemContrails from aircraft are made up of chemicals alright...chemicals called H2O or more commonly known as water, in this case water vapour and CO2 or Carbon dioxide. What we see as contrails is water vapour. You see burning fossil fuels produces huge amounts of water as a by-product. Just like clouds in the sky these contrails are made up of tiny frozen crystals of water. Now tell me have you ever seen clouds that just magically disappear in 20-minutes? Of course not.

    Some contrails do indeed dissipate quickly because of humidity (or lack thereof) amongst other things, but other ones just stay and persist just like natural clouds. It really isn't a mystery but ignorance and the need to believe that "dem planes are spraying us with nasty stuff" within the CT community allows this kind of nonsense to persist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭nuub


    http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article15478012.ab

    http://kkuriren.se/nyheter/vingaker/1.1554491

    My wife (who is swedish) read this in there papers, it is an article about members of parliament in particular a member of the greens speaking out about chemtrails , again I expect people to have there own opinions but its great to see this issue getting some air time (no pun intended):cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    nuub wrote: »
    http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article15478012.ab

    http://kkuriren.se/nyheter/vingaker/1.1554491

    My wife (who is swedish) read this in there papers, it is an article about members of parliament in particular a member of the greens speaking out about chemtrails , again I expect people to have there own opinions but its great to see this issue getting some air time (no pun intended):cool:

    Well there's a pretty big disclaimer at the bottom

    Conspiracy thrives online
    "Chemtrail" is a popular conspiracy theory that abound on the net. The theory is based on chemical and biological poisons sprayed from airplanes at high altitudes. Many followers of the theory argue that conspiracy by authorities, governments and security services are behind emissions.

    A "proof" that is often proposed is to support the theory are the streaks that jets leave behind in the air. According to meteorologists, these streaks, however, a normal consequence of the formation of water droplets on the exhaust particles - so called condensation.

    There is no scientific evidence that the theory of "chemtrails" are correct.


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